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Chad 12-09-2015 12:07

Timeshifted viewing
 
Just a quick poll to see how many people still watch TV as it's broadcast and how many record their shows, or use catch up TV, to watch at their own convenience.

I'm not talking about live news channels or live sport, which the majority of people will always watch live, I'm talking about your run of the mill TV programs and shows.

spiderplant 12-09-2015 12:18

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Here's one Ofcom prepared earlier:
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...cmr15/UK_2.pdf

I bet the results of this poll don't match!

Chad 12-09-2015 12:31

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35797706)
Here's one Ofcom prepared earlier:
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...cmr15/UK_2.pdf

I bet the results of this poll don't match!

That's a good read, plenty of stats and facts. Cheers for the link.

Surprised that only 12% of all viewing is time-shifted especially when 64% of households have a DVR. How many SKY, Virgin, BT and Talk Talk customers are paying for PVR functionality but aren't using it? Crazy.

zantarous 12-09-2015 13:16

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
I very rarely watch any live TV, or even use my Tivo. I just recently downgraded from XL to M and removed multi room.

Watching TV is now through the following services:

Amazon Instant Streaming
Netflix
Now TV

Music is done through a subscription to Google Play Music.

I use a combination of Fire TV and Chromcast and a nexus Player in the bedroom.

Kabaal 12-09-2015 13:49

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
I usually watch football live if i'm in but almost everything else gets recorded, not that there is much else I watch via VM tbh.

Chad 12-09-2015 13:56

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35797720)
I very rarely watch any live TV, or even use my Tivo. I just recently downgraded from XL to M and removed multi room.

Watching TV is now through the following services:

Amazon Instant Streaming
Netflix
Now TV

Music is done through a subscription to Google Play Music.

I use a combination of Fire TV and Chromcast and a nexus Player in the bedroom.

More people are doing this. I think it's appealing for those on a budget, I'm not suggesting you are by the way :)

I've said this before but Amazon Instant, Netflix and NOW TV are very appealing to me as you can front load all 3 services, if you have the money available, and paying nothing else throughout the rest of the year. £79.00 for Amazon Instant for the year, £51.00 for NOW TV if you shop around and Netflix for £75.00 if you buy their gift cards from Argos or Morrisons. £205 up front for a full years entertainment from all 3 services.

Taf 12-09-2015 15:54

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A lot of my favourite programmes clash with others I like, so it's all time-shifted for me these days.

zantarous 12-09-2015 16:11

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35797728)
More people are doing this. I think it's appealing for those on a budget, I'm not suggesting you are by the way :)
.

I wouldn't say I am on a budget but reducing my cable package cost certainly did factor in to it. The only one I have front loaded is Amazon not sure I would do it with all of them seeing as you can cancel and restart your sub very easily. I switched to these services because they have more content that I prefer.

OLD BOY 13-09-2015 12:51

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We never watch TV as it is broadcast any more, apart from some live events, the Labour leadership result yesterday being an example.

We watch from our Tivo recordings, Netflix, Amazon, Now TV and the BBC i-player almost exclusively and we do not watch commercials at all.

solitaire 13-09-2015 14:15

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
I know that Sky and ITV need the ads to pay their way, but most of the time you can lose up to one third of the programme with the number of ads shown, so I tend to record most of what I like to enable me to fast forward through them.

Stephen 13-09-2015 16:14

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solitaire (Post 35797855)
I know that Sky and ITV need the ads to pay their way, but most of the time you can lose up to one third of the programme with the number of ads shown, so I tend to record most of what I like to enable me to fast forward through them.

Well you don't really loose any of the program. It just means that a 45 min show lasts for about an hour because of the adverts padding it out.

OLD BOY 13-09-2015 17:52

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solitaire (Post 35797855)
I know that Sky and ITV need the ads to pay their way, but most of the time you can lose up to one third of the programme with the number of ads shown, so I tend to record most of what I like to enable me to fast forward through them.

Quite so. And with an ever increasing number of people doing the same, it does make you wonder what the broadcast channels are going to do about this reduction in audience figures, which will impact on advertising revenue.

I'd be very interested in what forum members would perceive happening if this income stream started diminishing.

Regular contributors on this forum know what I think! :D

spiderplant 13-09-2015 19:16

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35797879)
Quite so. And with an ever increasing number of people doing the same, it does make you wonder what the broadcast channels are going to do about this reduction in audience figures, which will impact on advertising revenue.

You really do need to read and digest that Ofcom report ;)

tassiekev 13-09-2015 19:19

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Live sport - everything else is recorded or streamed. I like to binge watch series so I record the ones that interest me plus I have Sky box sets, Netflix & Prime.

passingbat 14-09-2015 09:34

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35797720)
I very rarely watch any live TV, or even use my Tivo. I just recently downgraded from XL to M and removed multi room.

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Did the same 18 months ago and use the same streaming services as you, plus a couple of others.

However I still use the Tivo to record basic Freeview channels such as BBC and ITV etc. and make use of Tivo's Whishlist functionality.

I never watch shows live.

Paul 14-09-2015 12:42

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35797893)
Live sport - everything else is recorded ..

Very similar here.

I watch the football live, pretty much everything else I watch is recorded or from other offline sources.

The rest of the family do tend to watch some programmes while they are on, and record the rest - probably about a 40/60 split (live/recorded) atm.

OLD BOY 17-09-2015 12:25

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35797892)
You really do need to read and digest that Ofcom report ;)

Yes, spiderplant, I understand that broadcast TV is in rude health at the moment, but this isn't going to last forever. The main commercial TV channels are heavily dependent on advertising for their revenues currently and major strategy changes will be necessary in the years to come as (if I am correct), the audience levels for live viewing reduces markedly over the next decade or so.

ITV are certainly reducing their dependence on advertising now, but there is a way to go yet.

Chad 17-09-2015 12:57

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Rise of online TV will rock ITV and Sky, warns Viacom chief

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...com-chief.html

spiderplant 17-09-2015 18:06

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35798551)
but this isn't going to last forever.

So you keep telling us, but fail to provide any evidence to back your claim up.

Broadcast TV works well and people like it. It's not going anywhere.

OLD BOY 17-09-2015 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35798610)
So you keep telling us, but fail to provide any evidence to back your claim up.

Broadcast TV works well and people like it. It's not going anywhere.

Well, yes, spiderplant, but unfortunately nobody can actually prove something like that.

I guess we will just have to watch this space. I'm sure we will come back to this in another 10 years to see how things are going!

harry_hitch 17-09-2015 20:00

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35798563)
Rise of online TV will rock ITV and Sky, warns Viacom chief

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...com-chief.html


It seems to me ITV simply need to buy/commission better programmes. In my eyes, the vast majority of programmes they show are just incredibly poor. Their recent BBQ program, for me, gives a clear example of happy they are to accept sub-standard programs. It simply lacks any tension and failed to hold my attention, unlike GBBO, which is streets ahead of it. Failing that, they could always go in for more sports rights with other broadcasters (6 nations deal) or they could just have a specific film channel (similar to C4 and Film4.)

Speaking of C4, it's interesting how C4 is not mentioned in the article. I wonder if their viewing figures and finances are strong?

EDIT:

Oh, I timeshift just about everything. Not much is live, although I often hold off watching the start of a recorded live program for 20-30 mins just so I can skip the ad's and still watch the end the same time as everyone else.

---------- Post added at 20:00 ---------- Previous post was at 19:52 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35798633)
Well, yes, spiderplant, but unfortunately nobody can actually prove something like that.

I guess we will just have to watch this space. I'm sure we will come back to this in another 10 years to see how things are going!

As you well aware OB, I think things will be much the same in ten years.

If they are not, people will simply be paying considerably more money to lots of different companies, just to watch the same content we currently do now. Also, businesses will be forcing adverts on us we can't skip via the streaming sites.

Be careful what you wish for OB, it might just happen.

Hom3r 17-09-2015 20:15

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
We favour recording non BBC programs when they clash then watch the other when the BBC on clashes.

Or even if its a non BBC one we then fastward through the adverts

OLD BOY 17-09-2015 22:26

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35798642)
It seems to me ITV simply need to buy/commission better programmes. In my eyes, the vast majority of programmes they show are just incredibly poor. Their recent BBQ program, for me, gives a clear example of happy they are to accept sub-standard programs. It simply lacks any tension and failed to hold my attention, unlike GBBO, which is streets ahead of it. Failing that, they could always go in for more sports rights with other broadcasters (6 nations deal) or they could just have a specific film channel (similar to C4 and Film4.)

Speaking of C4, it's interesting how C4 is not mentioned in the article. I wonder if their viewing figures and finances are strong?

EDIT:

Oh, I timeshift just about everything. Not much is live, although I often hold off watching the start of a recorded live program for 20-30 mins just so I can skip the ad's and still watch the end the same time as everyone else.

---------- Post added at 20:00 ---------- Previous post was at 19:52 ----------



As you well aware OB, I think things will be much the same in ten years.

If they are not, people will simply be paying considerably more money to lots of different companies, just to watch the same content we currently do now. Also, businesses will be forcing adverts on us we can't skip via the streaming sites.

Be careful what you wish for OB, it might just happen.

I'm not wishing for it, Harry. However I can see it coming.

It's pretty clear that posters on this forum are doing a lot of time shifted viewing, so the likely future is staring us in the face.

spiderplant 18-09-2015 08:24

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35798672)
It's pretty clear that posters on this forum are doing a lot of time shifted viewing

Which just shows how atypical this forum is.

Timeshifting has reached saturation - if you want to do it, nothing is stopping you. The same happened with HD, and streaming won't be far behind.

pip08456 18-09-2015 11:52

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
I use KODI no ads and get all I want to watch.

OLD BOY 18-09-2015 12:14

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35798702)
Which just shows how atypical this forum is.

Timeshifting has reached saturation - if you want to do it, nothing is stopping you. The same happened with HD, and streaming won't be far behind.

The ability to timeshift is readily available, it is true, but habits are only changing slowly at present.

tassiekev 22-09-2015 11:45

Re: Timeshifted viewing
 
New Cloud-based DVR coming to UK from £1 per month:

http://variety.com/2015/digital/news...ve-1201598770/


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