Question on speeds
 

Setup:
VM Superhub
modem mode into an Asus RT n66u
I pay for 200MB

My laptop receives lovely 198mb when 3 metres below the router, on the 5Ghz.
But the 2.5Ghz only receives a maximum of 30MB throughout the house. Even when my smartphone is lying next to the router it is only getting 20Mb.

The same smartphone receives 70Mb/s on my friends superhub 2. Any reason for this? I've tried different channels and modes but no joy. Thanks.

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really? 1.6gbits doesn't exist yet, neither does 200mbits so the most you are paying for is 152mbits. Shub1 is notoriously pants for wifi so I would suggest that you either keep it on 5ghz or ring up for a shub2 which is dual band and also better for wifi.

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Pretend it's 152 mbits for a second then.

If I keep it on 5ghz the coverage is reduced by about 50%.

Am I able to order a superhub 2 free of charge from Virgin?

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yup but it depends who you get through to. Ideally you would go through to tech support and tell them you are having problems with your wifi. Instead of just admitting shub1 is pants and send you a shub2 they'll want to go through the rigmarole of changing the settings on the shub. Unfortunately I have seen quite a few posts recently which made you think you was trying to get blood out of a stone when trying to get a shub2 from tech support. I think pretty much everyone rings back, goes through to retentions and gets one posted out for free and you can swap it over yourself in 2 mins.

Now I think about it though dude, I would try tech support first because 152mbit users are supposed to be on shub2s anyway. If you ring up and tell them the wifi doesn't work they should want to give you a shub2 anyway from a paperwork point of view to make sure everything is within their guidelines/operating practices.

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Thanks for this. I presume it's the normal number and "problems with your broadband" etc?

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20 mins on phone fobbing me off. Then the line gets disconnected.

Really struggling to maintain a calm exterior. They could at least ring me back.

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I was worried that was going to happen. Ring 151 then you want options 1, 4 and 5. Option one is bb, phone and tv, then option 4 for change your options and service and then option 5 for thinking of leaving us, that will put you through to retentions. Try and stay calm and explain that you have a superhub1 and have continuous problems with the wifi and are not benefiting from the full speed of your 152mbit tier. You have rang tech support and they tried different things to fix it and ended up putting the phone down on you. You are very disappointed with their poor customer service and would like to complain as all you asked for was a superhub2 which you feel would remedy the problem and they have refused.

The key words to get in are superhub1, 152mbits and superhub2. They'll put two and two together and I can guarantee they'll want to throw a shub2 at you for free and apologise profusely.

You really shouldn't have a problem with retentions but on the off chance that you don't get the desired outcome you can ring back 0800 tomorrow. With it being a weekend evening, if you ring now you are guaranteed to go through to India. If you ring tomorrow morning there is a great chance you'll go through to Scotland. I would try now though tbh, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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Just spent 38 minutes on the phone to India only to be cut off. Thnks for your advice. I will ring retentions tomorrow.

I can't deal with this now.

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Np dude, please come back and let us know how you get on.

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Tuesday will be a better bet. It a bank holiday on Monday.

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Maybe mon General missed this. You are in modem mode so whichever Superhub you have doesn't matter.

The usual reason for 30 meg on 2.4 GHz is that the router may not be set up for 40MHz channel bandwidth. Your wireless mode should be set to AUTO.

Could that be the problem?

Also tell us about your 200 meg?

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So what's the Asus RT n66u doing?
(Sorry Seph - you got in just before me)

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Oh. That's a pain.

Tried this and still maximum I get is about 32mbs.

Wireless Mode Auto
Channel bandwidth 40
Control Channel Tried them all

Assuming you're not picking me up on my bits and bytes discrepancies :p:, I get 200mb on 5ghz on my laptop. Nothing else in my house even comes close to getting this.

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Sh1 max-out at 200Mbits and SH2 max-out at 300Mbs. I would ask for an upgrade, it's up to you.

Perhaps your Asus is faulty or your wifi card (what is it?)
what is your smartphone?

I do not expect this to be the problem given the performance at 5Hz, but on 2.4 you could try

Channel bandwidth:dynamic 20/40

The Asus has very good throughput on 2.4G although it sucks in range

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Yeah tried all those combinations.

The smartphone is samsung s3. The Mrs' s3 mini gets slightly better performance. But as I said, my S3 got far higher range using a mate's 100mb service on a superhub2.

The range of the wifi has always been disappointing, for a router that cost me £110. Both bands. So much so that I've had to use a netgear router as an access point. I don't suppose that makes a difference?

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The S3's maximum speed on 2.4Ghz is around 30-40Mbps under ideal conditions.

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From the evidence, it looks like the router is the problem.

The Asus RT66U router is very good model, you should not be getting those low speeds, its range sucks but it is not abysmal.

-Try upgrading the ASUS firmware.
-If that fails, if it is under warranty, ask for a replacement.
-Final option is to flash it with dd-wrt, you might be able to improve the range by increasing the transmission power further (I no longer have the Asus, so do not know for sure) although the ASUS firmware might have this option too

And you have nothing to lose by getting the SH2, although that's not the one that cases the problem,

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From the evidence, I don't see a problem.

198Mbps is not low speed.

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I've got the latest firmware from Merlin.

The 40Mhz bandwidth channel has improved results. I'm now getting speeds of 35mbs right next to the router on the smartphone, and quite good speeds of 70mb - 90mb on the laptop via 2.5Ghz right next to the router.

Still not what the superhub2 gave round a mates house, but I'm prepared to accept it I think, and testing via a samsung s3 appears to be a less than accurate method if I'm honest.

If I have real issues (as I need to move the router and superhub next month) then I may go down the retentions route. In the meantime, thanks for the help (must spread to most of you apparently).

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you are correct and I feel like a right spoon now :tiptoe:

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I'm pleased for you that this has all crystallised.

Just to say, Retentions won't be able to help you on this issue, particularly because the two key components are an Asus router and an S3.

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ya, I do apologise for my poor advice

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Placebo effect. The smartphone doesn't support 40Mhz in that band so it cannot possibly have made any difference.

Given your performance is interference-limited, HT40 has probably switched itself off anyway.

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I was waiting for someone else to point that out so I didn't have to ;)

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The lower speed you are seeing at your house is the top speed on the 2.4ghz band and the higher speed at your friends house is the top speed on the 5ghz band:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/09/37.png

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I really don't think your phone is connected to the 5ghz band in your house and/or you've got the Asus settings all wrong. Make sure you rename the SSID's of the 2.4ghz and 5ghz networks to different names to be sure.

Your laptop wifi card may also be capable of 70Mb on the 2.4ghz band. It's not a big ask of it, depending on the card's spec. So check that too.

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I currently have the superhub in superhub mode. Yet my router is still connected to it via the modem mode port.

I see multiple networks and they all appear to work

1) Is this normal, and will it cause problems?
2) What is the point in a mdem mode if the router works this way in the first place?

Ta

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Yes it is normal and yes it "could" cause problems because you are double nating. The reason why modem mode was created was to disable the router function of the shub. You expect routers to have certain features and perform a certain way and shub1 was made on the cheap and poorly tested and just didn't work. Apart from the wifi being diabolical, it kept crashing when put under moderate load, random reboots, I can remember people have problem with playstations not connecting all that kind of stuff. They were stupid faults that just shouldn't happen. Modem mode was created so your 3rd party router could serve as your primary router and handle everything in it's entirety such as dhcp leasing, wifi and all the routing (obviously) and the shub served as a gateway and passed off all the data to the internet/VM.

Shub aside, you can daisy chain as many routers as you want but you are just asking for trouble. At the moment your 3rd party router has not got a wan ip address and instead a local address provided by the shub. As an example, the ip addressing scheme I use on my router is 18.19.1.100/24 so all the devices on my network start with that address but the wan ip address for my router is the proper internet address I get from VM which is 82.215.xxx.xxx. At the moment your proper router isn't directly connect to the internet and it's wan ip address is the local address the shub has given it (along with all other devices) and will probably be 192.168.0.2 (the shub being 0.1). What happens is that your proper router tries to sort the traffic out itself and instead of sending it straight off to the internet if it needs to, it now has to send it to the shub. It will say "we need to route this traffic to 192.168.0.1 (the shub) and then you hope the shub will look at it and say "we need to send this off to an ip address on the lan (for devices directly connected to the shub) or off to 82.xxx.xxx.xx for the internet". It is also a right pain in the bum if you ever need to do port forwarding as well. I have got two additional routers which I use as wireless access points but that is it. All the routing and dhcp etc is still run by my primary router.

Tbh there really isn't a need to daisy chain routers on your small home networks, especially when the shub is involved. If you need to add more wired devices you are better using switches.

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Thanks man. Turned it back to modem mode.

FWIW - I got a Shub2 this week from Virgin. and speeds have ever so slightly increased but not by much at all. I have a system where everything works brilliantly wired to the router, or 1 - 2m away from the router.

But any further than that and it's proper deterioration. Proper gutted.

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I have just been lying in the bath and realised I perhaps didn't explain it clearly enough. You only have 1 ip address from VM which has to be shared between all the devices on your network which is why the router has one address for it's wan port and then dished out different local and non-routable addresses for the devices connected to it. The problem with double nating (network address translation) is that all the traffic for everything connected to the last router in the chain gets bundled under one address (in your case 192.168.0.2 from shub) and then the next router bundles it under another address (wan ip from VM in your case) and you have to hope that when your get the response back off the internet that the data/packets can find their way back to the originating device. Most of the time you wouldn't have problem and everything would work perfectly fine but when it comes to the shub, you are just asking for trouble.

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Sitting approx 3m under my Asus router through the ceiling on the 152Mb/s package via the 2.4hz band:

Inssider:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/09/29.png

Speed test:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/09/30.png

I just don't get it.

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what device are you running the speed test on? If it is the Galaxy S3 you mentioned previously then I wouldn't worry about it, I only got 20mbits on mine yet if I try my S4 then I get 60mbits.

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I've already told you several times what the cause is. Interference and crap devices. It's like going down the M25 in London and whining "I just don't get it" when you can't do 70mph flat out.

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No, it's the laptop that gets 200Mb/s next to the router

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So why can I not pick up any intereference on the channels I am using? Inssider shows nothing.

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Because as I've said dozens of times, Inssider cannot show interference.

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I'll just stop trying then and be happy with receiving a fifth of what I pay for.

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You're already getting 100% of what you pay for.

You do not pay for exclusive access to WiFi spectrum.

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So I got some CAT5 and experimented hardwiring a Belkin N600 dual band router as my access point.

I managed 93 Mb/s down.

While this is ok, I'd like to know if there is a cheap router out there that I can use as an access point that will let me get the full (or closer to) 152Mb/s?

Thanks.

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Are you sure the CAT5 cable isn't the problem? It's not usually capable of gigabit speeds.

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I've got another one to try later, so I'll let you know.

What isn't capable?

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CAT5 cabling. CAT5e or CAT6 for gigabit. Some CAT5 cables can do it on short runs but there's no guarantee.

What model, exactly, is your Belkin router?

EDIT: Is it this? http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Wireles.../dp/B004N625AA

Because if so, it states it does not have gigabit ports. That's your problem, not the cabling (Though CAT5 is rubbish anyway).

You do need a new router. What is your budget?

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Yeah pretty sure that's the model.

Budget is £60

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This any good?

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computi...81771-pdt.html

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The Archer C2 has a spec suitable for your Virgin Media connection. I like TP-Link kit.

Btw, many people say Cat 5 to include Cat 5e. It's printed on the side of the cable.

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Now I need to figure out how I turn it into an access point and give it a static IP address and al that I expect?

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Cat 5 is always capable of gigabit speeds. Gigabit ethernet was designed specifically to work on Cat 5 cable.

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Really sorry for going over old ground here. But can I just check the process for turning this new router into an acces point:

Superhub -> Asus -> wired via Cat5e > New router >>>>(Does this then have to be WIRED to a pc or can I do this wirelessly??)

Disable DHCP and give it a static IP address.

Is that more or less correct?

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This is how I see it:

Superhub -> Asus -> wired via Cat5e > New router (DHCP off) -> wired or wireless.

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Make sure you connect LAN to LAN as well.

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This is where I get confused.

When setting this new router up as an AP it needs to be connected to a PC then right? via it's LAN port to the LAN port of the PC?

Or do you mean the LAN port of the new access point just needs to be conencted to a LAN port of the main router?

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2nd option.

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Sweet.

I was under the impression I had to make a wired connection to a pc at some point, but wired to router is easier.

Now to find out how to get to the settings page :confused:

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I don't think that's correct, I think there's plenty of poorly made CAT5 cables that are within the CAT5 spec but won't handle gigabit very well. Especially for longer cables. I've certainly seen it first hand, where swapping a CAT5 to a CAT5e has turned a 100Mbit link to a gigabit.

On your asus, you're able to define the DHCP lease range and the subnet mask and all that. I'm going to assume that you have a subnet of 255.255.255.0 and your network starts at 192.168.1.1 (The IP of the Asus). I'm assuming this as this is the default. That subnet means any IP ranging from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254 can talk to each other.

What you should do is adjust the DHCP lease on your Asus to only issue IP's in a range smaller than this. For me, I'd set this so that DHCP leases start a .10 and end at .254, so the router will never ever allocate an IP below 192.168.1.10.

Then, log into your second router (access point), disable DHCP and give it a static IP outside of the DHCP range but inside the subnet, i.e. if using the example above, give it a static IP of 192.168.1.2 - so your router is on 1.1, your AP is on 1.2 and if you ever add a second AP, you can put it on 1.3 and so on.

This way, you'll never get a clash of IP's and you'll always be able to access the config page of your access points. Simples.

After that, all you need to do is plug a cable between the router an the access point. It doesn't matter which port the cable goes in (As long as it's not the WAN port on the Asus - that's just for your modem).

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Good stuff, Kush.

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Thanks for all that. But this bit has me struggling:

What has the access point been connected to up until this point then?

I thought I'd just read on this thread that "the LAN port of the new access point just needs to be conencted to a LAN port of the main router"

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Let's start again.

CURRENT SETUP (according to my understanding of this thread)

SH modem mode WAN Port --> Router WAN Port

INTERMEDIATE STEP

Access point LAN port --> PC for configuration.

COnfigure the AP for DHCP OFF as per Kush's detail

FINAL STEP

Access Point LAN Port --> Any Router LAN Port

Matters not whether PC remains attached to the AP.

Is that all clear?

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Ah I get you. The configuration in the intermediate step must be done whilst wired to a PC. That's what I was missing.

My current crappy access point has an ip address of 192.168.1.2 so I will just assign that one again to this new access point during this "intermediate step"

Thanks.

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Alot of the Youtube vids tell you to go into IPv4 and properties of the adapter. I assume I don't need that in this case?

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The reason they tell you that is, because, when you connect the PC to the AP to configure it, the PC is NOT connected to your Asus router and thus it isn't going to get an IP address via DHCP. Now if your AP is still in "router" mode (i.e. still had DHCP enabled) then it won't be an issue, but if it's not then your PC won't be able to talk to it because the PC won't get an IP address. Does that make sense?

Some of the guides will tell you to temporarily set a static IP on your PC so that when you disable DHCP on the AP, you won't lose connectivity.

I haven't needed to do that, I first set the static IP of the AP while it has DHCP enabled, THEN disable DHCP. The connection to the PC is lost, but it doesn't matter because you're done - just plug the AP into the Asus and plug your PC back into whatever it needs to be plugged into and it'll all work.

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It will be in router mode out of the box though I guess, so this shouldn't be an issue right?

I'm glad you said that, as I'd written it down vice versa!! Thanks again. I Will report back when I :

1) Fail and come running for more kind souls to give me support

or

2) Log on to say thanks again and report a wazzo 152Mb/s wifi connection

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This is really boiling down to semantics. Poorly made Cat5 cables that won't handle gigabit, are by definition not within Cat 5 spec. There's plenty of cheap cable sold as Cat 5e or Cat 6 that doesn't meet Cat 5 spec either. I'm making a distinction here between cable that has "Cat 5" written on the box, and cable that actually meets all Cat 5 specifications. There's the exception of certain environments where external conditions prevent a reliable gigabit link being established over a Cat 5 cable but in those cases the cable itself, in isolation, would still work just fine.

As a wise man once put it:



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It doesn't ever have to be wired to a PC, but to configure it your you need some way of communicating with it. Whether over wire, wireless, USB, Serial, JTAG or even Infrared is entirely up to you.

Wired makes it slightly easier to fix cockups though.

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Got the IP Address and subnet mask

Do I need a default gateway and Primary DNS server? Is this the IP address of my main router?

cheers

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it will pick that up by dhcp from the main router

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So I plugged all of it in. I'm online with the new access point, but I when I click on 192.168.1.2 to change the ssid settings - I get "this page is not available

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So confused.

On the new router I have WAN settings, LAN settings then underneath the DHCP I also seem to have the same settings.

which one do I change to 192.168.1.2 ?

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Ok so I think I did it. I had changed the wan settings by mistake.

So it breaks down like this:

I was getting 93Mbs on a 1/100 router. I upgraded to a gigabit router. I bought some new Cat5e. That's £65 for both

The result:

I now get 105Mb/s

So an extra 12Mb up for £65.

Is it time to give up?

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There is a frustrating bit of imprecision here - or so it seems to me. Forgive me if I'm wrong.

So what's running at 105 mbps? Wired or wireless attached to the "AP"?

And if it's wireless, what's the wired speed:

a) On the "AP"
b) On the ASUS

You are, of course, in modem mode. Yes?

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Wireless to the access point is 105Mbs.

The wired speed on the ASUS is 200Mb/s, via the same laptop. The same laptop gets 200Mbs wireless sitting next to the Asus.

The laptop wired to the Access Point has just recorded 208Mb/s. Yet just 105Mb/s wirelessly.

I am in modem mode.

The Cat5e is a 10M.

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So we've nearly boiled this down to the wireless capabilities of the "AP".

Is the "AP" a Belkin or the TP-Link Archer C2?

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It's the TP-Link. Which I bought yesterday.

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... and your test was performed on the same laptop as got 200 meg on the ASUS at 5 GHz?

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Yep. Both times right next to each router.

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I am trying to do a reductio ad absurdum.

Are you certain that the AP is not doing a wireless bridge with the Asus? There is a mode on many routers that allows this.

It is almost as if it were half-duplexing.

If you have got the patience, you may wish to put the Archer as the main router having turned DHCP on and see what the wireless does then. Both near the Archer and a room away at 5Ghz.

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How would I check?

LAN settings:

IP Address:
192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask:
255.255.255.0

WAN settings:

Connection Type: Dynamic IP
IP Address:0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask:0.0.0.0
Gateway:0.0.0.0

5Ghz:

Mode: 11 a/n/ac ixed
channel: auto:
channel width: auto

Hmmm Massive ballache. I can't really do this today.

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I'm not sure if it's connected but - when I plug an ethernet cable into my laptop, it doesn't pick up the wired connection. I have to disable the wireless adapter to pick it up.

I have also tried changing the metric in each adapter to force the wired connection but even that doesn't work.

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It's not a connected issue. I solved the issue by using an ASUS USB-AC56 as my wireless adapter and disabling the onboard device. When the ASUS adaptor is not plugged in, it cannot conflict.

You've confirmed that the laptop and identical wirless adaptor give 200 meg at the ASUS RT-AC68U. SO the adaptor settings are not suspect.

Youy have provided the "AP" 5GHz settings above - everything Auto. So that should allow you to work at the maximum Ethernet link speed between the two routers. Are the LEDS green on the Ethernet link between the two routers (to signify 1Gig link)?

The behaviour that I called half-duplex can be caused by another factor - though the settings you showed for the "AP" deny that factor, which is: In your Laptop --> AP WiFi 5GHz --> AP --> Ethernet --> ASUS Router path, it could be that "Auto" becomes a 1x1 radio. In which case the maximum speed would be whatever 802.11n can deliver (150meg). I may be talking a load of gollox but that level of detail is not given in any of the Archer specs.

You could change the settings for 5GHz to define the channel width to be 80MHz to force a higher speed. Me - I'd need to get my hands on the thing to bottom this out.

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Not if he's set a static IP, he won't.

I suspect the problem is the wireless configuration of the AP. Same as with your Asus, there'll be channel configuration settings. Make sure you're using 5Ghz if possible, make sure it's on a channel different to the Asus and so on.

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It's 5Ghz.

Asus:

Wireless Mode: Auto
Channel bandwidth: 40Hz
Channel Mode: Auto
Control Channel :Auto

AP:

Mode: 11 a/n/ac mixed
channel: auto
channel width: auto

I've tried mixing them round to different channels but no different.

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Overnight my wired speed has decreased from 200Mbps to 100Mbps.

Is this a VMedia change?

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You can tell by examining (and posting) your OPERATIONAL CONFIG from the ROUTER STATUS pages.

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Given that 200Mbit is not an official tier just yet and they've just been trailing it here and there, I'm going to suggest you're back to what you're supposed to be on.

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:D:D After just spending all the ££ to get a wired 200Mbs connection in the other side of my house, my wired connection is now no different to my wireless connection.

These things are sent to try us. Not Virgin's fault. It was fun while it lasted.

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Don't worry, the speed doubling will start next month, so you'll get your 200MBit back :)

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Oh yay. Nice one.

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... if your area trial indicated that your locality is good to go next month.

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Cardiff should be fine for 2 of the 3 tiers; it is packing 16 downstreams already :)

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Does that mean 300Mbit requires more than 16 downstream channels?

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No?

My comment earlier meant it would be good to go next month for 2 of the 3.

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Surprised you asked that, Kush.

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As I live in Barry I may consider coming back to VM.

Barry gets the same upgrades as Cardiff.

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I'm still confused, 16 Downstreams is good for 2 of the 3 tiers? Implying the 3rd requires more?

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Igni didn't say that 300Mb tier needed more downstreams, just that Cardiff should be good to implement 2 of the 3 tiers. He didn't say which 2.

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Igni's such a teaser.

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Oh, you've noticed as well.:D:D

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Not only that, I didn't have to teach him!

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I think I'm having a proper thicko moment, so I'll just wait and see what happens!

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That makes a change...