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figgyburn 17-07-2015 15:44

Are you a robot
 
Logged into my e mail and this new captcha popped up.tick if you are not a robot and tick pictures with salad in them.what's up?:confused:seems a bit ott.

arcimedes 17-07-2015 15:50

Re: Are you a robot
 
I had that when I logged into my mobile account. Are they getting a bit paranoid?

Just tried logging in again and it didn't ask the question.

Seems to happen first time you log in after that the question doesn't come up.

figgyburn 17-07-2015 16:08

Re: Are you a robot
 
Just logged in again.pictures of cakes this time. What the?

Kymmy 17-07-2015 16:24

Re: Are you a robot
 
It's a form of captcha\recaptcha that analyses the mouse movement and time of control to determine if you are a human or spambot

Kushan 17-07-2015 18:33

Re: Are you a robot
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/.../1.gif?share=1

figgyburn 17-07-2015 22:57

Re: Are you a robot
 
I know about the number catcha's.just wondering why now with virgin?.are we going to get pictures all the time?.were there problems with "robots"?.i never had any problems in the past.

toady 18-07-2015 12:12

Re: Are you a robot
 
It could be worse by using a captcha made up of words that even a two year old draws better

Paul 18-07-2015 17:49

Re: Are you a robot
 
Yet again VM prove what a bunch of muppets they are.

Another system thats useless and unwanted (and FF Noscript thinks is a hacking attempt).

techguyone 19-07-2015 06:46

Re: Are you a robot
 
FB too use the 'match same pics' thing now 'match all the cat/watch pics'

qasdfdsaq 21-07-2015 11:13

Re: Are you a robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35789338)
Yet again VM prove what a bunch of muppets they are.

Another system thats useless and unwanted (and FF Noscript thinks is a hacking attempt).

From what I can tell it's the standard Recaptcha prompt from the underlying Google platform and nothing to do with VM. All I have to do is tick the box "I'm not a robot" but others will be prompted to do different things depending on behavioural analysis and risk. The more likely they think you are to be a robot the more they will make you do to prove you're not.

It's the standard "new" Recaptcha system used by all the big providers: http://www.wired.com/2014/12/google-...ick-recaptcha/

Unless it's a different one they use when you login to the one on the Register page, in which case I can't remember my details so I can't check it.

[Edit]

Yes, it's the standard Recaptcha used by Google, Steam, Wordpress, and everyone else. Nothing to do with VM. It'll ask you to tick pictures of cats or salads or whatever if it can't tell you're human from clicking the checkbox. It can't track mouse movements on smartphones so that's why it comes up more often there.

If Noscript thinks what is probably the world's most widely used and simplest captcha system is a hacking attempt then IMO that's Noscript's problem, and still nothing to do with VM being muppets. Plus haven't VM chosen to move away from the Google platform anyway? So proving they're quite the opposite of what you claim!

Paul 21-07-2015 11:29

Re: Are you a robot
 
I dont care how "standard" it is, I dont want it, dont need it, and didnt ask for it.

Its a waste of my time (and reading around, apparently very hard to use on mobiles).

It also applies to logging into your account to view bills, irrespective of what system they may be using for e-mails.

Kushan 21-07-2015 16:10

Re: Are you a robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35789805)
I dont care how "standard" it is, I dont want it, dont need it, and didnt ask for it.

Blame the ones trying to brute force people's logins to steal identities.

Paul 21-07-2015 16:30

Re: Are you a robot
 
There are plenty of ways to tackle that without resorting to subjecting your registered uses to a stupid captcha system.

The very software we use here has the "strikes" system where 5 invalid login attempts will lock the account out for xx minutes. This is very effective at stopping brute force attacks.

Kushan 21-07-2015 16:45

Re: Are you a robot
 
Until someone goes on a tirade and blocks loads of accounts just because it's fun :P

qasdfdsaq 21-07-2015 17:03

Re: Are you a robot
 
As far as I can tell it's to prevent spam registrations only. Having a captcha after a valid login as well is... indeed strange. But I've never seen it on any login, VM or otherwise. On VM's site right now I only see it under the register link.

---------- Post added at 18:03 ---------- Previous post was at 18:01 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35789846)
Until someone goes on a tirade and blocks loads of accounts just because it's fun :P

And that's what fail2ban is for.

Kushan 21-07-2015 18:02

Re: Are you a robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35789849)
As far as I can tell it's to prevent spam registrations only. Having a captcha after a valid login as well is... indeed strange. But I've never seen it on any login, VM or otherwise. On VM's site right now I only see it under the register link.

I see it on quite a lot of login pages after a failed attempt or two. I'd prefer that over a lockout period.

qasdfdsaq 22-07-2015 10:32

Re: Are you a robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35789862)
I see it on quite a lot of login pages after a failed attempt or two. I'd prefer that over a lockout period.

Yes, after one or two failed logins it makes sense, to prevent automated attacks as well as intentional DoS. But not after a successful login... Unless it's some cheap alternative to 2-factor authentication?

Kushan 23-07-2015 07:26

Re: Are you a robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35789931)
Yes, after one or two failed logins it makes sense, to prevent automated attacks as well as intentional DoS. But not after a successful login... Unless it's some cheap alternative to 2-factor authentication?

I've never seen it after a login, I've seen other systems like those that send an email with a link or a code - that would be 2FA, but I don't think a CAPTCHA fulfils the "something you have" aspect? Unless you "have" eyeballs :P.

JayAy 24-07-2015 10:42

Re: Are you a robot
 
I wouldn't worry about this. Just think of all the fun and games to come when VM migrate evryone's emails away from Google to something they claim to have created themselves.


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