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Arthurgray50@blu 05-06-2015 19:02

Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1496688/68...ies-at-uk-port

From reading, and listening to this report. It goes to show you that illegals are coming into the UK, and they don't know how many.

In the Tv report, the Border controls have already said that they 'don't check every vehicle'.

We already have the container loads of people. Now this. and what are the government doing about - absolutely nothing.

We need more guards on our borders. and the people traffickers are licking there lips over this.

It has already been said over recent months, that they are trying to stop this. But when. Peoples lives are at risk here - and the only route the traffickers know - is the United Kingdom

David Cameron has said that he will try and cap immigrants coming here - l suggest he goes to all these ports, and check each vehicle. But there again in a few weeks , they all go on there summer holidays for three months.

Taf 05-06-2015 19:09

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Every vehicle should be checked, every container opened.

But then they would start arriving in quiet coves I suppose along with drugs and weapons.

We really should have an organisation to patrol and prevent all this.... a "Customs and Immigration Service" perhaps?

MarsBar 05-06-2015 19:17

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Mark Sedwill stated in June 2013 that there would be huge cuts in 2015,Immigration staffing would be slashed to ribbons at a saving of £11.5 billion.
I would imagine that figure would be substantialy higher now that we are in the age of austerity,oh well,such is life I suppose.

Gary L 05-06-2015 19:24

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Nothing else matters.
All we care about is a nice train.

choo choo!

MarsBar 05-06-2015 19:26

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35781664)
Nothing else matters.
All we care about is a nice train.

choo choo!

Exactly right,but think of the time that will be saved by having those choo choos.

Arthurgray50@blu 05-06-2015 19:32

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
If you watch a doc series on Border Controls, they showed Dover and what they did to find illegals.

It was totally shocking to see where they got the illegals from. But, to me they have to stop EVERY VEHICLE that comes off boats - but they say you cannot do that, as they don't have the staff.

IF, the government checked everyone that comes in - the figure would stun everyone. And this is no laughing matter - at the end of the day. Its out taxes that will be paying for them - either to stay, or to send them back.

Several weeks ago, in the national papers. It stated that a Judge deported a serial criminal - only a couple of months later he was back before the same judge on a charge of rape

Gary L 05-06-2015 19:33

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
60,70,80, 100 billion?

to get to work faster.

somebody tell them we're supposed to be skint.

Damien 05-06-2015 20:54

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
The thing about Immagrants is that they want all the benefits of living in Springfie...the UK but they won't even learn the language! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NB7Jz27b7E

Pierre 05-06-2015 21:55

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35781659)
http://news.sky.com/story/1496688/68...ies-at-uk-port

David Cameron has said that he will try and cap immigrants coming here .

But this thread is about Illegal immigrants? Which is outside of any caps, checks and balances.

TheDaddy 06-06-2015 01:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35781688)
But this thread is about Illegal immigrants? Which is outside of any caps, checks and balances.

Yes but the thread is also titled illegal immigrants now we know and then in post one proceeds to tell us we don't know at all

Russ 06-06-2015 02:59

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Checking every vehicle may well prevent a large number of illegal immigrants from getting caught but in practise is completely unworkable, it would cause complete chaos. The resulting delays would require far more manpower and money than is currently available and the trafficers and immigrants know this.

I'm not saying we let everyone in unchecked but neither ends of the scale are what will deal with this.

johnhook 06-06-2015 08:10

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Shooting them on sight might act as a deterrent ;) hehe

MarsBar 06-06-2015 09:01

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnhook (Post 35781714)
Shooting them on sight might act as a deterrent ;) hehe

Not very advisable.

ianch99 06-06-2015 09:43

re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
You can't have things both ways: if you vote in a government that is pushing through an austerity programme then you will get big cuts to public services i.e. customs, border control, police, social care, defence, etc.

Plus Dave promised 5 years ago to cut immigation and he never did so why believe him now?

Russ 06-06-2015 10:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35781734)
You can't have things both ways: if you vote in a government that is pushing through an austerity programme then you will get big cuts to public services i.e. customs, border control, police, social care, defence, etc.

Plus Dave promised 5 years ago to cut immigation and he never did so why believe him now?

I wouldn't trust or believe him if he said it was raining and I was standing there getting wet but in fairness he has the threat of UKIP these days so he's likely to at least appear to be doing something more about it now.

papa smurf 06-06-2015 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35781739)
I wouldn't trust or believe him if he said it was raining and I was standing there getting wet but in fairness he has the threat of UKIP these days so he's likely to at least appear to be doing something more about it now.

its nice to know that we kippers are keeping politics honest .

Stephen 06-06-2015 11:21

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
WEll this is nothing new. People sneaking in to countries hidden in vehicles has been going on for decades.

Realistically checking every lorry is never going to work.

papa smurf 06-06-2015 12:54

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Grimsby docks is about 1/2 mile from my house there is no sneaking in its there for all to see we have no border control

alanbjames 06-06-2015 13:17

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Feed them all curry and light their farts as a detterant.

Ignitionnet 06-06-2015 15:11

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
You seem to have some weird obsession with farts.

deadite66 06-06-2015 15:31

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Rule #34

Arthurgray50@blu 06-06-2015 21:12

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
what people don't realise is that when immagrants come into this country - wether legal or illegal.

They get benefits which WE pay for in taxes.

And Yet Osborne and Cameron, are still making severe cuts. This is why they didn't say WHAT cuts would be made before a lot of berks put a X in the Tory cuts - idiots

Mr Banana 06-06-2015 21:18

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must be a lot of idiots then Arthur, clearly you aren't one as you chose the right party. Well done.

Ramrod 06-06-2015 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35781791)
what people don't realise is that when immagrants come into this country - wether legal or illegal.

They get benefits which WE pay for in taxes.

And Yet Osborne and Cameron, are still making severe cuts. This is why they didn't say WHAT cuts would be made before a lot of berks put a X in the Tory cuts - idiots

1)Your first two sentences have nothing to do with your last paragraph. In other words it's a non sequitur. ie, what's your bloody point?
2) I voted tory. I don't think I'm a berk......but my vote 'won'. So you, my fine feathered friend, are possibly the berk :D

Pierre 06-06-2015 21:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35781760)
Feed them all curry and light their farts as a detterant.

That's just a usually Friday night for you.

---------- Post added at 22:35 ---------- Previous post was at 22:34 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35781791)
what people don't realise is that when immagrants come into this country - wether legal or illegal.

They get benefits which WE pay for in taxes.

And Yet Osborne and Cameron, are still making severe cuts. This is why they didn't say WHAT cuts would be made before a lot of berks put a X in the Tory cuts - idiots

Vote UKIP arthur.

Stephen 06-06-2015 22:34

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
They don't all get benefits though. It's not that simple. Also if 5 hey came legally then they are entitled to them surely?

But then facts and Arthur don't go together.

MarsBar 06-06-2015 23:13

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35781791)
what people don't realise is that when immagrants come into this country - wether legal or illegal.

They get benefits which WE pay for in taxes.

And Yet Osborne and Cameron, are still making severe cuts. This is why they didn't say WHAT cuts would be made before a lot of berks put a X in the Tory cuts - idiots

As long as they enter the UK legally then they are entitled to benefits.

deadite66 07-06-2015 06:03

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Polish lorry drivers bailed over Harwich stowaways

oh i'm sure they will stay in england and await british justice, any thoughts of them disappearing is just piffle.

papa smurf 07-06-2015 07:51

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35781791)
what people don't realise is that when immagrants come into this country - wether legal or illegal.

They get benefits which WE pay for in taxes.

And Yet Osborne and Cameron, are still making severe cuts. This is why they didn't say WHAT cuts would be made before a lot of berks put a X in the Tory cuts - idiots


typical labour waffle blame every one else you have more brass neck than a Victorian tap ;)

alferret 07-06-2015 07:58

Re: Illegal Immigrants - 68 People Found In Lorries At UK Port
 
It doesnt matter how secure our borders are, if people want to get into blighty then they'll find a way.
Look at the US/Mexico border, they have a 20ft steel wall erected and the US gov spend billions of $ trying to stop the tide of human migration yet they still get in.
According to Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal..._United_States
Quote:

In 2012, an estimated 14 million people live in families in which the head of household or the spouse is in the United States without authorization
And according to Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...United_Kingdom
Quote:

The most significant change in this estimate is however the inclusion of children born in the UK to undocumented migrants. For the LSE team undocumented migrants oscillate between 417,000 and 863,000, including a population of UK-born children ranging between 44,000 and 144,000.


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