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Ramrod 04-06-2015 13:23

Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
1. The Edstone went through ten approval meetings :disturbd:
2. Team Miliband completely underestimated the SNP threat :shocked:
3. Miliband asked his brother three times to be shadow chancellor
4. Miliband locked himself in his hotel room after forgetting to mention the deficit :rofl:
5. David Axelrod was appalled at Labour’s ‘low quality’ ideas :shrug:

link
You couldn't make it up :D

denphone 04-06-2015 13:50

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Suffice to say that from the moment he was elected leader of the Labour party instead of his brother the party was doomed to electoral disaster and so it proved.

Osem 04-06-2015 13:54

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35781382)
1. The Edstone went through ten approval meetings :disturbd:
2. Team Miliband completely underestimated the SNP threat :shocked:
3. Miliband asked his brother three times to be shadow chancellor
4. Miliband locked himself in his hotel room after forgetting to mention the deficit :rofl:
5. David Axelrod was appalled at Labour’s ‘low quality’ ideas :shrug:

link
You couldn't make it up :D

Let me suggest a new party motto:

Labour - Inept in office, Inept in opposition

:D

Ramrod 04-06-2015 16:15

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781399)
Labour - Inept in office, Inept in opposition

:D

That's quite good :tu: :D

nomadking 04-06-2015 16:45

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
I don't understand how SNP was meant to have affected the Labour AND Lib Dem vote in England? Even if Labour had won all of the seats in Scotland, it would still be a Conservative government.

Hugh 04-06-2015 18:25

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
It's thought that voters didn't want a Labour/SNP alliance (informal or otherwise), so a lot of those who may have voted Labour in England voted Tory instead.

Sirius 04-06-2015 18:52

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781399)
Let me suggest a new party motto:

Labour - Inept in office, Inept in opposition

:D

:clap:


Excellent

martyh 04-06-2015 19:19

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35781395)
Suffice to say that from the moment he was elected leader of the Labour party instead of his brother the party was doomed to electoral disaster and so it proved.

I'm not convinced David Miliband would have been any better

denphone 04-06-2015 19:37

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35781477)
I'm not convinced David Miliband would have been any better

Well we might just find out in 5 years time Marty.;)

MalteseFalcon 04-06-2015 20:00

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35781443)
I don't understand how SNP was meant to have affected the Labour AND Lib Dem vote in England? Even if Labour had won all of the seats in Scotland, it would still be a Conservative government.

As Hugh said, I think the message delivered throughout the campaign by Cameron and Sturgeon was the ultimate final nail in the coffin for Ed. With Tories, it was a case of vote Dave and get Boris (similar to the ticket in 2005 of Labour with vote Tony, get Gordon) whereas the other notion was vote Ed, get Nicola. I think that may certainly have helped swing it for Tories. Plus, it was all well and good attacking the coalition for what they had done, but I heard no real policies from Labour's manifesto that made me seriously think about using my vote for Labour.

Damien 04-06-2015 21:59

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Reports from behind the scenes of election campaigns are always interesting.

Chris 05-06-2015 13:44

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35781382)
You couldn't make it up :D

Except they really did make all of it up. And then expected us to vote for it. :erm:

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35781443)
I don't understand how SNP was meant to have affected the Labour AND Lib Dem vote in England? Even if Labour had won all of the seats in Scotland, it would still be a Conservative government.

You don't think the spectacle of an angry little Glaswegian leftie promising to prop up Miliband in a hung parliament might have made a few English floating voters to go for the blue team instead?

denphone 05-06-2015 14:03

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
From what l have read quite a few went over to the blue team.

MalteseFalcon 05-06-2015 15:56

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Another reason they lost might be the fact that they told their voters to vote Conservative. Now, I know the main thinking was in Scotland only to try and stop the SNP winning all those seats. However, I suspect a lot of voters might have taken this to heart and actually voted Tory on the behest of Miliband.

Maggy 05-06-2015 16:46

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Where I live the majority would vote in a donkey if it was Tory..and have done so for 30+ years.

denphone 05-06-2015 17:10

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Yes my parents live in Gosport and for the last 35 years they have always voted in a Conservative so you can't be that far from there Maggy.

Osem 05-06-2015 17:30

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
I don't understand why anyone would always vote for the same party no matter what. :confused:

heero_yuy 05-06-2015 17:44

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781641)
I don't understand why anyone would always vote for the same party no matter what. :confused:

Ignorance or stupidity. Take your choice.

Just re-inforces my view that you should have to qualify to be able vote. i.e. Understand what you're voting for.

denphone 05-06-2015 17:47

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Well obviously there are some in this country who are lifelong Conservative or Labour supporters and will vote for them no matter what.

l was talking to my Dad the other week and he sees his vote as a wasted vote as they are always going to vote the same party in no matter what in his constituency.

Sirius 05-06-2015 17:58

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35781633)
Where I live the majority would vote in a donkey if it was Tory..and have done so for 30+ years.

Same for me but its Labour.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35781645)
Well obviously there are some in this country who are lifelong Conservative or Labour supporters and will vote for them no matter what.

l was talking to my Dad the other week and he sees his vote as a wasted vote as they are always going to vote the same party in no matter what in his constituency.

I did look at Labour but the following put me off them.

Do i want to see the benefits of those who have never worked and have no intention of working increase NO

Do i want said lazy gits getting everything for nothing NO

As a tax payer do i want my tax going up to keep said lazy gits in beer and fags NO

Is Milliband Prime minister material NO

So it had to be conservative :)

Ramrod 05-06-2015 18:41

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35781611)
Except they really did make all of it up. And then expected us to vote for it. :erm:

Yep. Amazing isn't it?
It's like they were a bunch of kids playing at being adults and hoping nobody would call them on it :D

Like Axelrod said: "Vote Labour and get a toaster" :rofl:

Gary L 05-06-2015 19:02

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35781646)
Same for me but its Labour.

---------- Post added at 18:58 ---------- Previous post was at 18:51 ----------

I did look at Labour but the following put me off them.

Do i want to see the benefits of those who have never worked and have no intention of working increase NO

Do i want said lazy gits getting everything for nothing NO

As a tax payer do i want my tax going up to keep said lazy gits in beer and fags NO

Is Milliband Prime minister material NO

So it had to be conservative :)



So you based it all on the unemployed then.

Sirius 05-06-2015 19:54

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35781660)
So you based it all on the unemployed then.

If they are the sort who have never worked and have no intention of working then YES.

Hugh 05-06-2015 21:31

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35781633)
Where I live the majority would vote in a donkey if it was Tory..and have done so for 30+ years.

Sounds like South Yorkshire, only for Labour there....

martyh 06-06-2015 09:05

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35781660)
So you based it all on the unemployed then.

Anyone with half a brain would include it in the equation .The last thing normal sensible people want is a return to a benefits for all culture provided by the last Labour twonks

Gary L 06-06-2015 09:12

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35781728)
Anyone with half a brain would include it in the equation .

So you didn't vote Conservatives then?

martyh 06-06-2015 09:24

Re: Things we’ve learnt from the Guardian’s profile of Ed Miliband’s campaign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35781730)
So you didn't vote Conservatives then?

Absolutely I did ,I like the way things are going ,I think the country is a better place for having a Conservative government.


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