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Osem 28-05-2015 15:23

Blatter presides over new FIFA crisis
 
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Fifa president Sepp Blatter has chaired an emergency meeting under growing political pressure over a corruption scandal that saw arrests on Wednesday.

UK Prime Minister David Cameron is calling for Mr Blatter to resign. Russian President Vladimir Putin has backed Mr Blatter for a fifth term.

Mr Blatter says he has no intention of resigning, the BBC understands.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32917364

Putin's backing says it all I reckon. I think the key sponsors need to act decisively now and disassociate themselves from the FIFA charade. I'd also like to see the UEFA countries set an example withdraw from all world cup competitions until such time as FIFA can show it is reformed.

denphone 28-05-2015 15:30

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Yes l would like the UEFA countries to withdraw from all FIFA's competitions but sadly half the UEFA countries have their hands in the pig trough as well so it won't be in their interests to suddenly withdraw even though it would be the best and most honourable thing to do.

mrmistoffelees 28-05-2015 15:35

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Blatter is the most corrupt, lying, cheating git on the planet

(In my opinion of course)

papa smurf 28-05-2015 17:44

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35780305)
Blatter is the most corrupt, lying, cheating git on the planet

(In my opinion of course)

no sign of an arrest though

denphone 28-05-2015 18:05

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Typical of Blatter in his latest interview is that he is blaming others but not himself.:(

Kabaal 28-05-2015 18:38

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I don't understand why all the nations don't band together to dump FIFA. None of us want them and their old boy backroom system.

Osem 28-05-2015 18:39

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Come on now, how on Earth can someone who's been at the top of an organisation for so long be at all responsible for a lack of oversight which allowed this sort of thing to happen and remain undetected for so long? :confused:

If the UEFA nations pull out, the sponsors will have no alternative but to act. Of course Putin's portraying it as yet another unwarranted western attack on Russia and nothing at all to do with alleged corruption on a huge scale.

Uncle Peter 28-05-2015 19:20

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Blatter will have his tracks well covered and the feds will have to pull a blinder to make anything stick to the slippery snake.

Pity that certain football federations are still backing an individual who had all of this going on under his nose. Still trying to feed from the contents of the trough even though it's been knocked over, the spineless cowards.

Damien 28-05-2015 19:56

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/05/3.jpg

DocDutch 28-05-2015 20:36

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I always thought Blatter has been made of teflon ... nothing sticks to him.

Sirius 28-05-2015 20:40

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35780347)
Come on now, how on Earth can someone who's been at the top of an organisation for so long be at all responsible for a lack of oversight which allowed this sort of thing to happen and remain undetected for so long? :confused:

If the UEFA nations pull out, the sponsors will have no alternative but to act. Of course Putin's portraying it as yet another unwarranted western attack on Russia and nothing at all to do with alleged corruption on a huge scale.

Two words Plausible deniability

papa smurf 28-05-2015 21:01

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one of those arrested will probably do a deal with the yanks and grass everyone up in exchange for immunity from prosecution .

Pierre 28-05-2015 21:15

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FIFA should be disbanded and a new governing body set up

papa smurf 28-05-2015 21:30

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35780363)
FIFA should be disbanded and a new governing body set up

bent Bernie from f1 could run it ;)

Maggy 28-05-2015 21:38

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http://www.ibtimes.com/fifas-world-c...re-out-1941995

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The latest statement came from Kia Motors, a presenting sponsor of the World Cup along with Visa, Adidas, Gazprom and Coca-Cola. Kia is “extremely concerned about the legal proceedings being taken against certain FIFA executives and will continue to monitor this situation closely," the company said in a statement released today.
Hyundai, Kia’s parent company, also said it was “deeply concerned” in its own statement.
The announcement came after a very strongly worded statement from Visa on Wednesday demanding that the federation make changes to the way it conducts its business. "It is important that FIFA makes changes now," the statement said. "Should FIFA fail to do so, we have informed them that we will reassess our sponsorship."
However..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32911782

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So why aren't these huge and powerful global companies doing what the UK culture secretary John Whittingdale has asked, and following the lead of Visa - which said it would review its sponsorship deal if Fifa does not clean up its act?
Well, part of the answer is implicit even in the less mild sabre-rattling of Visa. Because it is striking that even Visa only said it might review its commercial relationship with Fifa, not that it was doing so.
The point, according to well-placed executives, is that Coca Cola, Hyundai, Budweiser, McDonald's, Gazprom and Visa (among others) have signed legally binding contracts.
So they may not be able to get out of the contracts without paying spectacular damages - given that they are each believed to be paying Fifa up to $200m (£130m) over four years for the marketing opportunities associated with the World Cup.
Seems that Blatter has the upper hand..

Osem 28-05-2015 21:53

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Wouldn't illegality, if proved, negate contracts entered into in good faith?

papa smurf 28-05-2015 22:00

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35780368)
Wouldn't illegality, if proved, negate contracts entered into in good faith?

nah there will be a back hander for that eventuality;)

Gary L 29-05-2015 11:05

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Have you noticed how much thieving and corruption is going on since Dave has been in power?

you have
millions, billions.

and then you have pennies and pounds in comparison.

Hugh 29-05-2015 12:28

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Except for the fact the FIFA corruption has been going on for at least 20 years, and it's outside Europe, you may have something there...... :dozey:

Mick 29-05-2015 14:25

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I have a lot of patience and respect for Old age pensioners with the exception of the old blithering idiot, Blatter.

They say as you get older, stubborness is more apparent, so him being 79, this is no surprise.

However, he has admitted this morning, even before a legal process has taken it's course, through the courts - that there is corrupt individuals at FIFA, but FIFA itself is not corrupt.

So he is fully aware of this before a court has ruled otherwise, so if he knew about said corruption taking place, while under HIS watch and HE did little in the 17 years under HIS leadership to curb it, therefore he has no right to plead for unity.

You need to go and FAST, you silly, stupid and stubborn old man!!!

To the Sponsors - Get some bigger balls and walk away from them, with their complete arrogance, they will only plough you through the mud with them.

adzii_nufc 29-05-2015 15:00

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It doesn't need to stick this time. This has literally torn apart every bit of reputation they had left. I find it extremely hard to believe Sepp Blatter is clueless about it too. I think it's time FIFA was torn down and rebuilt with ex footballers that have the game in mind. As it stands FIFA are on the verge of meltdown. This is a lot bigger and goes a lot deeper than people realize.
My other post from the football thread.

To expand further: No matter how today turns out, FIFA will never be the same again under Sepp Blatter, Uefa will denounce them and I can see them helping European teams boycott FIFA World Cups under the current regime. It still is an absolute disaster.

Next in action once this clears is something that should've never happened, the awarding of the World Cup to both Russia and Qatar, the former being a country that is illegally warmongering in Ukraine, actively homophobic and constantly sanctioned for racial abuse in football as well as the corrupt methods used to achieve the world cup. The latter is 100% corrupt, slave labour, truly dire working conditions as well as countless human rights violations. A country that has very little to do with the footballing world and provides nothing to benefit the sport in any way.

I think it's now feasible that England and the US are immediately placed on standby to host a world cup within a year, I believe they are the two best suited countries from the rounds of bidding that are capable of doing such a task within a tight timeframe given how long this could drag out.

Onto Sepp Blatter, I've watched football since I was a kid, I can't remember the last time I went a week without watching or going to a match, I support Newcastle, I've been to Arsenal matches, United matches, Chelsea matches and even bloody Blackpool matches. I'd like to throw in there that anyone with a similar experience of Football as me is more qualified than Sepp Blatter to run FIFA, that's how bad it is. You have a guy in charge of the governing body at top level that has never played the game at any respectable level, is completely out of touch with any side of the game not to mention how out of touch he is with modern day society. Gays should refrain from doing anything sexual in Russia, Victims of racial abuse should shake hands with the perpetrator and whatever else comes from this dinosaurs mouth.

thenry 29-05-2015 18:58

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Second round of voting at FIFA elections..

No majority of 2/3 in round 1 of voting
Ali 73 votes
Blatter 133 votes

second round of voting will produce a winner of any majority

denphone 29-05-2015 19:03

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Well its pretty obvious he is going to win the 2nd round vote so now its up to the top European football associations and UEFA to pluck up the moral courage and pull out of FIFA's competitions forthwith and set up their own governing body.

Osem 29-05-2015 19:14

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That so many delegates continue to vote for this guy is probably the saddest indictment of the whole affair. The whole things stinks to high heaven and I hope there'll be serious repercussions for FIFA now.

thenry 29-05-2015 19:14

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Ali has pulled out of the second round of voting. Blatter re-elected.

adzii_nufc 29-05-2015 19:48

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R.I.P FIFA:dunce: Good riddance.

No European teams in World Cups hopefully assuming the two scandalous upcoming ones even happen now.

Sometimes the only way to stop a villain is by backing another villain #Platini2015

Sirius 29-05-2015 20:06

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So they have voted for more of the same corruption and bribery. So glad i don't watch football.

papa smurf 29-05-2015 20:08

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35780535)
So they have voted for more of the same, corruption and bribery. So glad i don't watch football.

no one wanted to get rid of the goose that lays the golden eggs

Julian 29-05-2015 21:26

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Giving a fly blown African country the same voting power as a European nation, without which there would be no sponsors, is insane.

People in Sudan, Chad, Ethiopia etc. don't have Visa cards and drink Budweiser.

Get out of fifa now..... watch the sponsors all quit too.

DocDutch 30-05-2015 00:45

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Julian I would say give the bigger footballing nations more of a say but yeah it pains me to say it but Blatter must go (heartattack soon?? :) )

papa smurf 30-05-2015 08:22

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well its nice to see that all swept under the carpet now we can get back to the real business of bribery corruption and money laundering

what am i bid for the big match

Carlos Carboni 30-05-2015 09:47

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He is 79, president of FIFA, plenty of free dosh (corrupt/ back handers, who cares) and on top of that, a trophy cougar!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/05/2.jpg

?

denphone 30-05-2015 10:39

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Blatter blames Europe.:(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32941740

Osem 30-05-2015 11:16

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Methinks the sponsors are saying just enough to give the impression they're serious without being so. I think they're calculating that Blatter will ride out the storm and unless there's a financial reason for acting they'll do nothing.

Ignitionnet 30-05-2015 12:14

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35780587)

Zero surprise here. He's playing to his supporters. Starting as he means to go on, cementing his power base.

What, did anyone seriously think he was going to do anything positive? :angel:

Maggy 30-05-2015 12:48

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/30/sp...&nlid=64458123

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Fourteen people have been indicted in bribery and kickback schemes linked to corruption in the highest echelons of FIFA. And United States authorities say more charges are all but certain.
“I’m fairly confident that we will have another round of indictments,” said Richard Weber, the chief of the I.R.S. unit in charge of criminal investigations.

Osem 30-05-2015 13:56

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32941740

Blatter said:

Quote:

"I've just been elected tor a fifth term, there can't be that much wrong with me."
Oh really? :rofl:

dave6x 30-05-2015 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35780588)
Methinks the sponsors are saying just enough to give the impression they're serious without being so. I think they're calculating that Blatter will ride out the storm and unless there's a financial reason for acting they'll do nothing.

I was thinking I would do my bit and boycott FIFA sponsors products but:
I don't eat McDonalds
I don't drink Coca Cola or any of their brands
I don't wear Adidas
I wouldn't drink Budweiser if you paid me to
etc.

Ah well I suppose it's the thought that counts!!! :rolleyes:

Osem 02-06-2015 18:49

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Blatter has resigned.

Good riddance but let's hope they appoint someone credible.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32982449

Can't help thinking there's something more to this decision than just media pressure.

denphone 02-06-2015 18:51

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Yes its certainly true but one must hope they will appoint someone who can bring change and everybody together again for the betterment of the game.

Chris 02-06-2015 18:58

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781101)
Blatter has resigned.

Good riddance but let's hope they appoint someone credible.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32982449

Can't help thinking there's something more to this decision than just media pressure.

There's no way he'd do this off his own bat. Something very nasty is headed his way. He has jumped before he was pushed.

The next few days and weeks will be very interesting.

papa smurf 02-06-2015 19:02

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35781104)
There's no way he'd do this off his own bat. Something very nasty is headed his way. He has jumped before he was pushed.

The next few days and weeks will be very interesting.

you'd make a terrible defense lawyer ;)

denphone 02-06-2015 19:04

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Yes that's how l see it as well as there have been a lot of rumours about something bigger revelation wise being broke in the coming days regarding someone very high up in FIFA.

DocDutch 02-06-2015 19:19

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something that has been posted on a few dutch news forums I frequent...

also might appeal to the ManU fans.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/06/14.gif

joglynne 02-06-2015 19:29

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Has he gone yet or can he delay calling an extraordinary elective Congress?

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While I have a mandate from the membership of Fifa, I do not feel that I have a mandate from the entire world of football – the fans, the players, the clubs, the people who live, breathe and love football as much as we all do at Fifa. Therefore, I have decided to lay down my mandate at an extraordinary elective Congress. I will continue to exercise my functions as Fifa President until that election. The next ordinary Fifa Congress will take place on 13 May 2016 in Mexico City.
You can read the full transcript of Blatter's speach here ( post timed at 18:18) ... http://www.theguardian.com/football/...on-claims-live

Osem 02-06-2015 19:40

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I wonder if the Russia and/or Qatar tournaments are up for 'review'...

denphone 02-06-2015 19:58

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781115)
I wonder if the Russia and/or Qatar tournaments are up for 'review'...

Somehow l would not get my hopes up too high as l cannot see those decisions being reversed.

papa smurf 02-06-2015 19:58

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781115)
I wonder if the Russia and/or Qatar tournaments are up for 'review'...

no chance they have been paid for

devilincarnate 02-06-2015 20:56

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About time
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32982449

Damien 02-06-2015 20:57

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781115)
I wonder if the Russia and/or Qatar tournaments are up for 'review'...

Qatar might be. I don't think Russia will be. It's only 3 years away. It might cause to much of a fuss. Unlike Qatar Russia has stadiums, footballing history, and it wasn't a country you wouldn't expect to host a World Cup. However invading participating nations might be more of a problem for that bid...

Sirius 02-06-2015 22:21

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35781104)
There's no way he'd do this off his own bat. Something very nasty is headed his way. He has jumped before he was pushed.

The next few days and weeks will be very interesting.

I agree fully, i wonder what will be in the papers and on the news channels in the next few days

Hugh 02-06-2015 22:25

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Next President of FIFA - Ernst Stavro Blofeld.....

Osem 02-06-2015 22:49

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35781134)
Qatar might be. I don't think Russia will be. It's only 3 years away. It might cause to much of a fuss. Unlike Qatar Russia has stadiums, footballing history, and it wasn't a country you wouldn't expect to host a World Cup. However invading participating nations might be more of a problem for that bid...

Why, has Putin taken Sepp's demise that badly??!!...

:D

---------- Post added at 21:49 ---------- Previous post was at 21:44 ----------

Could this have something to do with it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32986950

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Sepp Blatter under investigation by US officials as part of Fifa corruption inquiry, reports say

Paul 03-06-2015 04:18

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Good riddance.

Sirius 03-06-2015 08:57

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781156)
Why, has Putin taken Sepp's demise that badly??!!...

:D

---------- Post added at 21:49 ---------- Previous post was at 21:44 ----------

Could this have something to do with it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32986950

And so it begins :)

Osem 03-06-2015 12:27

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The more I read about alleged dodgy dealings, kickbacks, pay-offs, lavish perks/expenses, inadequate financial scrutiny and cosy jobs for the boys, the more FIFA reminds me of Parliament.

Taf 03-06-2015 12:34

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Sepp Blatter is going to use all of his spare time to concentrate on improving his tennis game.

Rumour has it that his forehand is nothing special but his back-handers are amazing.

denphone 03-06-2015 12:42

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781188)
The more I read about alleged dodgy dealings, kickbacks, pay-offs, lavish perks/expenses, inadequate financial scrutiny and cosy jobs for the boys, the more FIFA reminds me of Parliament.

What makes me laugh is one proclaims "we are all in this together" while FIFA calls itself "the FIFA football family" and in both cases its just pure utter ********.

Osem 03-06-2015 12:49

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Don't forget 'One Nation'... ;)

denphone 03-06-2015 13:13

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Another load of codswallop as well.

papa smurf 03-06-2015 18:35

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781188)
The more I read about alleged dodgy dealings, kickbacks, pay-offs, lavish perks/expenses, inadequate financial scrutiny and cosy jobs for the boys, the more FIFA reminds me of Parliament.

order order order the honorable gentleman must retract that statement ;)

thenry 03-06-2015 20:59

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Will a certain individual spit on Interpol ?

denphone 03-06-2015 21:55

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Former Fifa official Chuck Blazer admits accepting bribes for France and South Africa World Cups in New York court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/32998735?n...e=news_central

http://www1.skysports.com/football/live-blog

Chris 03-06-2015 22:01

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One by one, they'll all start to sing like canaries. The US system is remarkably good at that.

Bribes in relation to France 1998 as well. Wow, this really does go back a long way ... and perhaps no wonder they are believed to have voted to keep Blatter in post.

denphone 03-06-2015 22:05

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There will have to be huge changes at FIFA as its starting to look like the corruption was systemic and no wonder Blatter resigned before he was pushed.

Osem 03-06-2015 22:09

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Rotten to the core anyone?...

Derek 03-06-2015 22:49

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If anyone has booked flights or hotels in Qatar for 2022 I'd star looking very closely at the refunds policy.

beeman 03-06-2015 23:27

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35781279)
One by one, they'll all start to sing like canaries. The US system is remarkably good at that.

Bribes in relation to France 1998 as well. Wow, this really does go back a long way ... and perhaps no wonder they are believed to have voted to keep Blatter in post.

But thats as far as they'll go. The cynic in me thinks nothing will bee found from 94....

Chris 04-06-2015 00:13

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Originally Posted by beeman (Post 35781302)
But thats as far as they'll go. The cynic in me thinks nothing will bee found from 94....

Americans have a near-religious zeal when it comes to prosecuting financial and other so-called white collar crime. If the FBI find evidence that the bid for USA '94 was bent, believe me, they'll go for it big time.

Osem 04-06-2015 09:57

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Has Jack Warner developed dementia? Having apparently denied "any knowledge of wrongdoing" he's now implying he'll reveal an "avalanche of secrets". :confused:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...o-no-more-live

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...tion-race.html

Chris 04-06-2015 10:09

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781322)
Has Jack Warner developed dementia? Having apparently denied "any knowledge of wrongdoing" he's now implying he'll reveal an "avalanche of secrets". :confused:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...o-no-more-live

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...tion-race.html

Again ... The US justice system has a remarkable track record when it comes to getting people to spill the beans.

Apparently, however, Mr Warner thinks that England using Beckham to front its 2018 bid was just the same as offering a bung. So maybe Warner is losing his marbles after all.

Osem 04-06-2015 19:36

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Fifa paid the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) to stop legal action over Thierry Henry's handball in Ireland's World Cup play-off defeat by France in 2009, it has been claimed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33011692

denphone 07-06-2015 09:02

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Documents show details of Jack Warner 'bribes'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-33039014

Osem 07-06-2015 10:46

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I am totally shocked and surprised... :rolleyes:

papa smurf 07-06-2015 10:47

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781829)
I am totally shocked and surprised... :rolleyes:

my first thought was nooooo not honest jack :rolleyes:

denphone 07-06-2015 11:01

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You obviously don't pick your friends very well old boy.;)

Osem 07-06-2015 11:05

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35781323)
Again ... The US justice system has a remarkable track record when it comes to getting people to spill the beans.

Is that because the sentences are far more severe and the system far more rigorous for the accused and those found guilty? If you know you're going down for 20-30 years (and won't be serving just a fraction of that) as would happen here) there's a huge incentive to do a deal in return for a lesser sentence or even immunity from prosecution. You get let off, the bad guys get done and there's plenty of kudos to be shared around those responsible for the prosecution, many if whom are elected IIRC and rely on being seen to be getting results.

It's all a bit vague but I recall reading, in connection with the case of a UK citizen put on trial in the states some years ago, that the US prosecutors throw everything possible at those in the dock to raise the stakes and rely on the likelihood that the accused will decide to accept some guilt rather than risk arguing their innocence and getting a massive sentence. The pressure to do this is far greater, apparently, than in the UK system.

Damien 07-06-2015 23:39

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781835)
Is that because the sentences are far more severe and the system far more rigorous for the accused and those found guilty? If you know you're going down for 20-30 years (and won't be serving just a fraction of that) as would happen here) there's a huge incentive to do a deal in return for a lesser sentence or even immunity from prosecution. You get let off, the bad guys get done and there's plenty of kudos to be shared around those responsible for the prosecution, many if whom are elected IIRC and rely on being seen to be getting results.

It's my impression as well that politics is never far away from the justice system in America. Especially at the federal level. I think it's even the case that local police chiefs and prosectors are elected as you mentioned. Bit dodgy imo.

MarsBar 08-06-2015 00:42

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FIFA has ruined money.

Osem 08-06-2015 23:58

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The BBC can reveal that the former FIFA Vice President Jack Warner has been investigated by US prosecutors over the disappearance of money meant for victims of the Haiti earthquake.

He visited the country in 2010 and raised $750,000 from FIFA and the Korean Football Association to help rebuild the country after the disaster.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-33056234

Oh dear...

denphone 09-06-2015 07:11

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Russia & Qatar 'may have bought votes'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33044932

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Russia and Qatar may have had to pay bribes to secure their World Cups, Sepp Blatter's former special advisor has suggested.

Guido Tognoni worked "extremely closely" with the Fifa president during Blatter's second term.

"In Fifa, for many years, you could only reach your goal by taking dollars in your hands," Tognoni told BBC Sport.
The revelations are coming out more and more as the days roll by.

papa smurf 09-06-2015 08:22

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35782139)
Russia & Qatar 'may have bought votes'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33044932



The revelations are coming out more and more as the days roll by.

"may have":eeek:

Stuart 09-06-2015 11:10

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In the meantime, with impeccable timing, a FIFA backed film that seems to present a very rose-tinted view of FIFA's own history has come out, and flopped.

heero_yuy 09-06-2015 12:42

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Sport genre?

More like fantasy. :D

devilincarnate 10-06-2015 20:25

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Wonder what will come of this?

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33088747

heero_yuy 11-06-2015 09:59

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I doubt any of the shenanigans will be in the "official" books. It all depends on what data the police have been "allowed" to see.

Had they swooped and taken away all the computers for forensic examination including the deleted files* it would be a different story IMO.


*PC's don't actually delete stuff, the OS just marks the space as available storage.

denphone 12-06-2015 10:21

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35782376)
Wonder what will come of this?

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33088747

And of this.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...friendly-qatar

Ignitionnet 12-06-2015 22:38

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Half expect the Argentines implicated to try raising the Falklands as a distraction and blame it on some British plot.

thenry 14-06-2015 17:43

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No harm in trying hey

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33126284

denphone 14-06-2015 18:23

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He will not wriggle his way out of this one though.

denphone 17-06-2015 14:08

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Swiss investigating 53 cases of possible money laundering at Fifa.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...torney-general

Osem 17-06-2015 14:55

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I wonder if the Swiss authorities were rather 'relaxed' about FIFA's suspicious dealings until the FBI became involved and they no longer could be.

Hugh 26-06-2015 15:37

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Oh, no he didn't!

BBC
Quote:

Sepp Blatter says he has not resigned as Fifa president.

The 79-year-old Swiss was thought to have ended his 17-year reign on 2 June amid claims of corruption in world football's governing body.

But, according to Swiss newspaper Blick, Blatter told a party at a Fifa museum: "I did not resign. I put myself and my office in the hands of the Fifa congress."

Blatter is thought to be considering standing for re-election as president
You couldn't make this stuff up...

Osem 26-06-2015 15:38

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With FIFA anything is possible...

denphone 26-06-2015 15:59

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Frankly its utterly laughable.

Stop It 26-06-2015 16:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35785336)
Oh, no he didn't!

BBC

You couldn't make this stuff up...

Haha!

I mean, wow. Between him, Ecclestone and the fiascos at the IOC, the cycling authorities in recent years I have to ask if there's a secret game going on between them.

The game? Who can make the biggest mockery of international institutions and get away with it. The problem is of course that thanks to copious amounts of TV and sponsors money, these guys at the top of sports have been able to run amok with no semblance of corporate governance. Yes, we can all point faults with big corps, but being a PLC usually means the CEOs are accountable to someone. With this lot, Blatter and co think they aren't accountable to anyone, including their own words.

I hope the US authorities nail him once and for all.

Osem 26-06-2015 16:25

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Well if they can arrange a world cup tournament during summer in one of the world's hottest places, this is nothing...

heero_yuy 26-06-2015 18:51

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No fool like a silly old fool. :erm:

thenry 26-06-2015 20:44

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Don't rock the established :sleep:

thenry 09-07-2015 19:07

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Sepp Blatter is crying that he has had to bear all the responsibility for the actions of 'others' and that the crisis is not global, something about European circles only speaking of the presidential election.

:sleep:


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