Virgin Media and TiVo sign new deal
 

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/...ivo-extension/

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And others said it was on its death bed just waiting to die.:nono:

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more like struggling along in the slow lane on its zimmer.

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Too much bloated software on too slow a CPU. A very common problem.

Rewriting critical functions more efficiently could do a lot but it'll never happen as the push is always for more bells and whistles and to be rolled out yesterday.

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Tivo rocks compared to what Sky offers its customers.......

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The recent update dumped the flash-based interface for a HTML5 one. I'd say that counts as rewriting critical functions.

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Indeedy.

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Possibly but I'd bet there's lots more bloat that could be streamlined.

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Maybe but its still better then the vast majority of STB's on the market.

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Because LG's key staff were briefing analysts behind the scenes that they wanted horizon rolled out in all their markets to gain cost efficiencies.

I am surprised to say the least. I didn't realise the deal was expiring as I thought it had several years still to run.

Be interested what the City bods say to LG at the next quarterly meeting.

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So what's Horizon like?

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.... no idea, I've never seen it beyond the pics/vids available on the internet.

It looks like open media software such as Kodi or Media Portal. So, based on that, it looks good. But until/if it comes to the UK, we won't know.

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I've just had a google and found this video showing it off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzHF2P2ZeeY

I have to admit, it does look nice. I get why they called it Horizon. It seems nippy, not sure I like the layout but its at least faster than TiVo by a mile.

The owner of that states it has 4 Ethernet ports. I can't even fathom why you'd want 4 Ethernet ports unless it was also the router/hub. That I don't like.

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.... It does look good and yes it is a router too because unlike VM, the Horizon box is used to stream channels to mobile devices, pcs etc. Whereas on VM, they come off the headend.

I've used my own media software for years and its superior to tivo in every way. But the only way to get the HD channels from VM is to have their damn box, I can't just feed the channels through to my own setup.

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Now if virgin did offer it that would be a game changer broadband and TV in one box compare to separate internet and TV box now

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And VOIP, goodbye service technicians

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Kudos for that benmcr

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Really? Because that seems like a massive step back. Internet used to come through the STB and it was awful.

What makes you say that? Surely techs would still be required, not like having an STB magically fixes things?

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The internet also used to be 512kbps and it was awful.

Things have changed since 2001 :)

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One benefit is that this keeps Tivo out of Vodafone's hands as it will be launching its IPTV service this year. Vodafone's cableco in Spain uses Tivo so Tivo would have been a solution for Vodafone UK to consider if this were possible, especially given the work done on it for the UK market. Unfortunately for Vodafone, it seems to have different TV boxes in each country which it operates in.
It's also important to note that LGI has just over a million Horizon customers throughout Europe whilst VM has just over 2.5m Tivo customers.
Think I prefer the look of the Tivo box over the Horizon box but the Horizon box seems smaller.

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the features are fantastic just very badly implemented

as heero states bloated software on an inadequate CPU , absolutely terrible user experience.

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I dont think there is much difference between sky+ and tivo, both do similar stuff. Does Iplayer work on sky?

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My experience with both Sky HD and Tivo are largely similar. The interface is slow. I can't comment on layout and features too much because the glaring issue for me has always been how slow the interface is.

A raspberry Pi running XBMC/Kodi runs rings around both. A raspberry Pi 2 with Kodi is absolutely stellar.

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No doubt a consequence of efficiently written code. The Pi's CPU isn't the fastest thing on the planet.

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Three massive differences for me, that are available on Tivo but not on Sky:

Whishlists

Three tuners

Auto resolving of recording clashes

Without those, for me, the Sky box just doesn't cut it.

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I have no idea what's inside the TiVo boxes, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was an even slower CPU.

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Linky

All that power wasted by bad coding. :(

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Sounds like it's fairly comparable to a gen1 Raspberry PI, then. It should definitely run better than it does, from the sounds of it.

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The VM boxes use the BCM7019. It's about the same speed though.

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Very true , TiVo is so far behind Horizon. Virgin must have a great price if they feel that it is the box they want to use

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Only 10% of LG customers have the Horizon box, I must say I had assumed it to be a lot more than that.

40% are still on analogue :shocked:

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very true;)