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Ryan92 27-03-2015 23:20

Looking to return!
 
Moved back to Sky mainly due to cost ; big mistake!
Was due to recontract with Sky for my telly and they totally mis-sold my package ; telling me there was a price increase after everything was all confirmed and then telling me there was no cooling off period either.

I should never have moved away, year of an absolute nightmare with these guys really!

What's the TiVo service like these days?

Anypermitedroute 27-03-2015 23:56

Re: Looking to return!
 
As a person who after many years was a V+ and then finally took the plunge and got TiVo (mainly because it was cheaper the package) I will have an attempt to answer.

Navigation took a little time to get use to but on the whole quite intuitive, picture is clean and the added tuner is useful. Series link and recording suggestion also has been a welcome addition along with ability to record based on keywords.

Apps and BBC I player are generally a miss but that's my own opinion; more of a gimmick then a must have no doubt if I didn't have alternative means to stream I player I would use TIVO and be able to give a full impression. I tried it once in January but it buffered so I abandoned, likewise searching on sky movies is a bit ancient and therefore just use the sky movies app on iTunes but that is horses for courses.

Spacewise 1 GB is plenty and the added benefit if you are sky movies customer sky movies are in Hd for TIVO; I usualy search on app and then watch via TiVo and this works fine.

The only grip I miss is the out and out reminders feature from V+ and the closest we have in TiVo is remind and record which is a little pants. Does the job but then end up deleting which to me is stupid; yes it's a whole new way of watching but I just want it to be simple where I chosen something to watch in hour time and I want it to automatically change channel in an hour. Simple on V+ but not available on TiVo

So in conclusion, good box, in my utopian world I would have V+ simplicity with HD movies and larger disc space but I have TiVo and pretty content with it

OLD BOY 28-03-2015 00:48

Re: Looking to return!
 
I think the TiVo is all right, actually. There have been problems with the BBC I-player but they seem to have been resolved with the new version. Netflix is very good. Just takes a little while to load.

All in all, I am very satisfied with the TiVo and look forward to getting more apps on it such as Amazon Instant!

Mad Max 28-03-2015 01:05

Re: Looking to return!
 
It's slow!

johnathome 28-03-2015 01:08

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35767939)
It's slow!

Indeed, i'm not sure the update sorted the iPlayer problems at all, according to the official VM forums.

My new Humax is blistering compared to the Tivo.

As i said in another thread i wonder if the new software is getting beyond the capability of the hardware inside the box.

Mad Max 28-03-2015 01:21

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35767940)
Indeed, i'm not sure the update sorted the iPlayer problems at all, according to the official VM forums.

My new Humax is blistering compared to the Tivo.

As i said in another thread i wonder if the new software is getting beyond the capability of the hardware inside the box.


My thoughts entirely, the so called "update" turned into a colour change to the menu, thanks guys...:rolleyes:

theone2k10 28-03-2015 13:47

Re: Looking to return!
 
Decentish box but awful company.

denphone 28-03-2015 13:51

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35767935)
I think the TiVo is all right, actually. There have been problems with the BBC I-player but they seem to have been resolved with the new version. Netflix is very good. Just takes a little while to load.

All in all, I am very satisfied with the TiVo and look forward to getting more apps on it such as Amazon Instant!

Yes Amazon Instant and Now TV would both be nice in a ideal world.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35767940)
Indeed, i'm not sure the update sorted the iPlayer problems at all, according to the official VM forums.

My new Humax is blistering compared to the Tivo.

As i said in another thread i wonder if the new software is getting beyond the capability of the hardware inside the box.

Rumours abound that a new enhanced TiVo could be coming soon to this country.

yorkshireborn 29-03-2015 11:49

Re: Looking to return!
 
cant understand whys there's no cooling off period all contracts have one.
as for TiVo Slow too many sub menus to navigate iplayer alltough better takes a while to get going 30sec just to goto iplayer.
to be honest for the lil extra your paying sky id stay with em the experience would be much better ie box sets catch up films ect ect and im sure I read somewhere sky have a new box on the way that rivals TiVo.

fatmat8 03-04-2015 20:39

Re: Looking to return!
 
just moved back last month and am glad to be back

Itshim 04-04-2015 22:45

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan92 (Post 35767912)

What's the TiVo service like these days?

painful need to be updated.:(

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[QUOTE=johnathome;35767940]I

My new Humax is blistering compared to the Tivo.

Other boxes are to time virgin migrated to anything else:)

japitts 07-04-2015 17:28

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35767920)
As a person who after many years was a V+ and then finally took the plunge and got TiVo (mainly because it was cheaper the package) I will have an attempt to answer.

Ditto...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35767920)
Navigation took a little time to get use to but on the whole quite intuitive, picture is clean and the added tuner is useful. Series link and recording suggestion also has been a welcome addition along with ability to record based on keywords.

Apps and BBC I player are generally a miss but that's my own opinion; more of a gimmick then a must have no doubt if I didn't have alternative means to stream I player I would use TIVO and be able to give a full impression. I tried it once in January but it buffered so I abandoned, likewise searching on sky movies is a bit ancient and therefore just use the sky movies app on iTunes but that is horses for courses.

Totally agree - I soon realised that TiVo was a different beast entirely to V+, and it took some getting used to. Once the learning curve was done, there's no going back.

I was affected by broadband utilisation on the TiVo modem until only a couple of months ago, and it was only between that and the release of the new app would I say the iPlayer service has become a usable substitute for recordings. All that's missing now, is the TiVo search reflecting the improved 30day availability of iPlayer content - which I understand is due imminently.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35767920)
Spacewise 1 GB is plenty and the added benefit if you are sky movies customer sky movies are in Hd for TIVO; I usualy search on app and then watch via TiVo and this works fine.

I had a suspicion when upgrading that 500Gb wouldn't have been enough, and that has been repeatedly confirmed. If it's going away for more than a week and/or recording a lot more stuff in HD then the 1Tb would be essential to be honest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35767920)
The only grip I miss is the out and out reminders feature from V+ and the closest we have in TiVo is remind and record which is a little pants. Does the job but then end up deleting which to me is stupid; yes it's a whole new way of watching but I just want it to be simple where I chosen something to watch in hour time and I want it to automatically change channel in an hour. Simple on V+ but not available on TiVo

Well yes.. but I've read the explanation for why this is, on the official-VM site and it makes sense. So if that's the way it has to be, then so be it.

Anypermitedroute 07-04-2015 18:16

Re: Looking to return!
 
I haven't seen the official explanation, I'm sure there is one, whatever the reason is I still miss it

japitts 07-04-2015 20:11

Re: Looking to return!
 
Essentially because TiVo doesn't have any tuners that are reserved for live-TV, all 3 recorders can be used to record... there needs to be a tuner "reserved" to manage the reminder.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...10522#U1410522

Anypermitedroute 07-04-2015 20:30

Re: Looking to return!
 
Thanks for the link; would happily sacrifice a tuner for the reminder but I would guess I'm in the minority

OLD BOY 08-04-2015 13:34

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35767920)
As a person who after many years was a V+ and then finally took the plunge and got TiVo (mainly because it was cheaper the package) I will have an attempt to answer.

Navigation took a little time to get use to but on the whole quite intuitive, picture is clean and the added tuner is useful. Series link and recording suggestion also has been a welcome addition along with ability to record based on keywords.

Apps and BBC I player are generally a miss but that's my own opinion; more of a gimmick then a must have no doubt if I didn't have alternative means to stream I player I would use TIVO and be able to give a full impression. I tried it once in January but it buffered so I abandoned, likewise searching on sky movies is a bit ancient and therefore just use the sky movies app on iTunes but that is horses for courses.

Spacewise 1 GB is plenty and the added benefit if you are sky movies customer sky movies are in Hd for TIVO; I usualy search on app and then watch via TiVo and this works fine.

The only grip I miss is the out and out reminders feature from V+ and the closest we have in TiVo is remind and record which is a little pants. Does the job but then end up deleting which to me is stupid; yes it's a whole new way of watching but I just want it to be simple where I chosen something to watch in hour time and I want it to automatically change channel in an hour. Simple on V+ but not available on TiVo

So in conclusion, good box, in my utopian world I would have V+ simplicity with HD movies and larger disc space but I have TiVo and pretty content with it

Without wishing to drag this whole thing up again, I really struggle to understand the problem. This workaround was provided by VM to overcome a problem in delivering something that some people wanted. I don't understand at all why anyone should be bothered that it records when it reminds. After all, you couldn't use the tuner if you wanted to watch the programme live, so where is the problem?

Anypermitedroute 08-04-2015 14:30

Re: Looking to return!
 
Simply laziness old boy; I have to delete the item that is being recorded simply so as to be reminded it was starting.

I do appreciate I am probably in the minority and is just my opinion, for me as you state it is a workaround and not a full solution.

As you stated clearly on a number of occasion how you watch and mange your TiVo is undoubtedly different to how I use it and neither of us are wrong

richard s 08-04-2015 16:20

Re: Looking to return!
 
After logging in and looking at my upgrades and offers page (this is confusing) if I ask retentions if I could have the Big Kahuna Bundle this would reduce my bill by £14.00 a month! If I took the upgrades this would increase my bill by another £14.50. What the!!!!

Anypermitedroute 08-04-2015 18:10

Re: Looking to return!
 
You could still be paying for part of the old month package perhaps? Worth a call as you will have a cooling off period

OLD BOY 13-04-2015 14:10

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35770355)
Simply laziness old boy; I have to delete the item that is being recorded simply so as to be reminded it was starting.

I do appreciate I am probably in the minority and is just my opinion, for me as you state it is a workaround and not a full solution.

As you stated clearly on a number of occasion how you watch and mange your TiVo is undoubtedly different to how I use it and neither of us are wrong

I understand, but the TIVO cannot cope with the solution that would be best for you.

Maybe you should set a reminder on your mobile, then you wouldn't have a programme to delete! It also wouldn't matter if you weren't watching TV at the time, you'd still receive the alert.

Anypermitedroute 13-04-2015 14:29

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35771266)
I understand, but the TIVO cannot cope with the solution that would be best for you.

Maybe you should set a reminder on your mobile, then you wouldn't have a programme to delete! It also wouldn't matter if you weren't watching TV at the time, you'd still receive the alert.

Thanks OB :), I have tv guide app which provides this functionality so actually this might be the solution!.

Now, i wonder if they could add that to TV anywhere app?....

fatmat8 13-04-2015 18:57

Re: Looking to return!
 
i switched from sky back to v.m. having originally with virgin but am a bit dissapointed as when i tape cycling i never get to see the finish of a race as it always stops recording about 4 kiiometers from the finish . damn and blast

japitts 13-04-2015 19:02

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatmat8 (Post 35771361)
i switched from sky back to v.m. having originally with virgin but am a bit dissapointed as when i tape cycling i never get to see the finish of a race as it always stops recording about 4 kiiometers from the finish . damn and blast

Is that because the scheduled end of the program, turns out to be about 4 kilometers from the end of a race?

alwaysabear 13-04-2015 20:14

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatmat8 (Post 35771361)
i switched from sky back to v.m. having originally with virgin but am a bit dissapointed as when i tape cycling i never get to see the finish of a race as it always stops recording about 4 kiiometers from the finish . damn and blast

Usually Tivo asks you if you want to add extra padding on a live event, mine did yesterday when I recorded the Paris -Roubaix race .

OLD BOY 14-04-2015 13:45

Re: Looking to return!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35771393)
Usually Tivo asks you if you want to add extra padding on a live event, mine did yesterday when I recorded the Paris -Roubaix race .

It's worth doing anyway with some programmes. Live events, yes, but BBC programmes can often end after the time of the next scheduled programme. Sometimes even ITV programmes can overrun, which is surprising considering you'd think that the adverts would act as a buffer.

Sky programmes are generally quite punctual. Why can't all the schedulers follow that example?

japitts 14-04-2015 21:47

Re: Looking to return!
 
The only real gremlin here, is that you can set extra-time on a "live" program to cover late-running. But you can't do anything to subsequent programs (or even just the following one) to cover a late start - except padding.

fatmat8 18-04-2015 18:58

Re: Looking to return!
 
thank you for your suggestions , but it seems i am still on a learning curve .


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