Plane crashes in French Alps kills 150 people
 

Germanwings plane crash: Recovery operation resumes - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32046250

So so sad. Really wonder what happened to cause the plane to drop so fast.

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In the event of an emergency the plane will take you directly to the crash site..

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Amazed you can find amusement in the sudden death of 150 people, including 12 school kids.......

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It's something I always say when they're giving the safety briefing before take off. Really winds the wife up. I also laugh when they talk about the life jacket, with built in light and whistle.

Because when a plane goes down the usual end result is certain death, so why bother.

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Very sad news, the A320 seems to be in the news to much these days.

Interesting stats:

http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...-plane-crashes


Air-bus still have a good record compared to Boeing.

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One of the pilots were locked out of the cockpit. :erm:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...pit-crash.html

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Deliberately crashed by co-pilot?

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If a pilot leaves the cockpit do they need to then be let in by the other co-pilot? Maybe the pilot left the cockpit then the other co-pilot is incapacitated for whatever reason and the other pilot can't get back in? Or he is locked out and the other pilot is trying to crash it? Weird one.

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One would assume so.

The cockpit door is designed so that it can't be bust open, since 9/11

But the plane would most likely be on autopilot so unlikely it would crash into the Alps.

This gets my vote, it has happened before at least once with a far Eastern airline.

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If it was suicide? why take innocents with you.

Should the door have a key code fitted on the outside so only the pilots know it and is changed on a monthly basis.

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There was a BA pilot on 5 live earlier this morning and he said that there is a way back into the cockpit that only the staff know. He said he wouldnt elaborate how for obvious reasons. He said that the way back in is in case the the other pilot has some seizure or something like that but he went on to say that if the other pilot deliberately locks him out then there isnt a way back in.

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Looking like a deliberate act by the co-pilot, according to what I'm hearing on Radio 5 Live.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32063587

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I wonder what the co pilot said to make the pilot leave the cockpit in the first place

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Apparently the pilot asked the co-pilot to take control while he went to the toilet and was then locked out. Whatever happened there's clearly going to be an urgent review of procedures but you have to wonder what can realistically be done to prevent this sort of thing. :shrug:

At least it appears that the passengers were not aware of the extent of the problem until the very last minute so, if that's the case, their suffering would have been briefer than would otherwise have been the case. If there is any small crumb of comfort to be had for the bereaved maybe that's it. :(

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I just can't process how horrible that is. That this was intentional and 'not a terrorist' attack. Some guy just decided to kill all those people?

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.. and if he'd wanted to kill more, he could have flown it into a populated area. :confused:

If it's true that the pilot asked to go to the toilet, it seems almost like an opportunist act, although I guess it wouldn't be uncommon for pilots to need a break even on fairly short flights so anyone intent of doing this sort of thing wouldn't need to wait too long before the chance arose.

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I was reading that usually a flight attendant is meant to replace the pilot so that there is always two people in the cockpit but not sure if that's true and, even if it is, I imagine they occasionally forgo such procedures if they're inconvenient.

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You'd have thought that would be reasonable. According to one 'expert' on the BBC, apparently there are means by which to open a cockpit door if, for example, the pilots are incapacitated for some reason but, this can be prevented by someone on the flight deck which seems to be what happened here.

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Common procedure on modern aircraft is that the cabin door is locked when shut, but can be opened via a keypad. This allows the crew to come and go as required without needing to be let in all the time. But post 9/11 security changes have resulted in a manual lock being fitted on the inside of the door, so if there is a hijack in progress in the cabin, the door can be locked in such a way that none of the crew outside can be coerced into opening it.

Whether that's a good idea depends on which you think is more likely: a terrorist trying to force cabin crew to give them access to the cockpit, or one of the pilots going suicidal and locking everyone else out.

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We will probably find out about the co-pilots life situation in the coming days. Sadly it was the same situation on flight MH370.

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He's a murderous coward, wanted to take his own life and decided to take 140 people with him.

He's a coward because flying a plane into the side of a mountain at 570 mph to die instantly is a real cowards way out.

He didn't even have the guts to tie a noose around his neck, stick a blade in his wrist or throw himself off a bridge or in front of a train. Because they would need at least some conviction and pain. No, he sat in a comfy chair and obliterated himself instantly.

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Crazed pilot should not even have been at work: Families' fury at revelation killer nicknamed 'Tomato Andy' hid secret mental illness and had pile of torn-up sick notes - including one for fatal Tuesday


seems he wasn't stable for some time

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There are also some news stories that he was a recent muslim convert, but none of these stories are from reliable sources.

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To be honest if that was the case he would have been screaming ally snackbar or what ever it is they shout before killing for there god.

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As I said unconfirmed because it has only been reported in unreliable news sources. Also unconfirmed was a report of a page being shut down by Facebook that had a few likes claiming to be from Islamic extremists taking the credit, which was also most likely a hoax.

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I read this comment.

"Who gives a crap about the ******* co-pilot. TELL me the name of the hero pilot who tried until his dying breath to get back into the cockpit"

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Captain Patrick Sondheimer :tu:

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An article on sky news about the captian trying to get into the flight deck and yet I cannot see his name.

http://news.sky.com/story/1454876/cr...-the-damn-door

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