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Arthurgray50@blu 20-03-2015 16:58

Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
http://www.itv.com/news/london/2015-...gious-reasons/

I am 63 years old, and quite open minded, but over the past few days l have heard several different ' stupidity situations' which makes me put this on the forum

1) A friend of mine was forced by his council to remove England flags from his windows in case it offended religious beliefs

and 2) the above, l cannot believe that this eclipse was banned for kids on cultural and religious reasons

What a load of rubbish. Who is it going to offend, Its nature, its OUR solar system and part of education.:mad:

Gary L 20-03-2015 17:18

re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Islam.
it looks like something to do with Islam.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/03/14.jpg

Just put a star on top.

Soon we will be reminded that blacks are different to whites.
incase anybody missed it the last few hundred times in the 21st century.

richard s 20-03-2015 18:13

re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
If he owns his own home he can put a flag in his window(s) (so long as it is not ISIS one). If he is a housing association or council tenant then he may have to abide by their rules.

In my view he is an Englishman and wants to be a Patriot than he can tell the council to go stuff their selfs, or take him to court for breaking what law!!!!

Hom3r 20-03-2015 18:33

re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE will ever take my flags from my windows, not even a judge.

I would go to gaol first.

Matthew 20-03-2015 18:39

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Wow, anyone stops me I won't be responsible for my actions!

Julian 20-03-2015 19:55

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
More info here

Seems like an overreaction on the head's part......

Gary L 20-03-2015 20:04

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Religion stinks.
it always gets in the way of everything.

no matter what happens in the street today. religion will always crop up.

take the bin out. religion jumps out and complains.

Carlos Carboni 20-03-2015 21:17

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Wise move

It can be very TRAUMATIC to heliophobic people, causing mixed emotions, unhappiness, followed by happiness, then unhappiness in a matter of 1 minute. Very bipolar.

And let's not forget how many vampires could pop out during the eclipse, only to be killed a minute later. Wise move indeed.

Thanks god for the clouds, we couldn't see a thing!

Jimmy-J 20-03-2015 22:09

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Sad really, but people had better get used to it, because it can only get worse.

Gary L 20-03-2015 22:17

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
I know. society gets broken up and segmented because of religion.

well this section won't like this. and another section won't like that because you like something that they due to their religion will be offended by.

you got someone with a query over a bill. they ask him what religious gang he belongs to so they can get a specialised person to deal with his query. and they daren't offer him a cup of tea whilst he's waiting just incase the tea may offend him and may have to be made in a mug that was blessed by someone who believes in fairies.

Jimmy-J 21-03-2015 03:19

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35766270)
I know. society gets broken up and segmented because of religion.

Yeah, minorities do like to stick together and spread the word of their god.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcuWqw2tT8

Bless...

Gary L 21-03-2015 06:27

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
I wonder what they want to be when they grow up.

Seriously. were they trying to incite a riot?

techguyone 21-03-2015 10:01

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
If an Englishman man in England, can't put up an English flag - where can he?

I really really really can't abide lefty liberal PC cnuts, makes my pee boil.

martyh 21-03-2015 10:11

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Given Arthurs history of embellishment and non factual statements I'd be wary of taking the story of his friend being forced to remove flags from his windows as entirely factual

Russ 21-03-2015 15:24

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35766317)
Given Arthurs history of embellishment and non factual statements I'd be wary of taking the story of his friend being forced to remove flags from his windows as entirely factual

I'd be pretty certain it's not true. I refer to this each time someone get "banned from flying the England flag in case it offends someone", during the 2010 World Cup I lived in the very multicultural Leicester and the England flag was everywhere you looked.

Gary L 21-03-2015 16:42

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35766375)
I'd be pretty certain it's not true. I refer to this each time someone get "banned from flying the England flag in case it offends someone", during the 2010 World Cup I lived in the very multicultural Leicester and the England flag was everywhere you looked.

We've moved on in the last 5 years.

Carlos Carboni 21-03-2015 16:45

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh
Given Arthurs history of embellishment and non factual statements I'd be wary of taking the story of his friend being forced to remove flags from his windows as entirely factual

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35766375)
I'd be pretty certain it's not true.

linky

;)

Russ 21-03-2015 16:55

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35766398)
We've moved on in the last 5 years.

No we've still got the "poor persecuted Englander in his own country" complex to this day.

---------- Post added at 18:55 ---------- Previous post was at 18:53 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni (Post 35766400)

Are any of those people the person Arthur says are his friend?

Ramrod 21-03-2015 17:03

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35766404)
No we've still got the "poor persecuted Englander in his own country" complex to this day.

With good reason...

Russ 21-03-2015 17:06

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
That's debatable. If your biggest worry is not being able to fly your flag (which by the way I agree you should do so with pride) then life isn't going to be too difficult.

Gary L 21-03-2015 18:06

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35766404)
No we've still got the "poor persecuted Englander in his own country" complex to this day.

You've never liked England anyway. so your opinion is biased lol

Russ 21-03-2015 18:29

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35766419)
You've never liked England anyway. so your opinion is biased lol

Really? I lived there for 4 years, my OH and 2 of her kids are English, my father was before he passed away and my son is half English. You run along and have fun making that one stick.

martyh 21-03-2015 18:36

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni (Post 35766400)

and if you read the link you would see that the rule applied to all flags not just England flags .Whatever people think of the rule (I think it is pretty petty) it applied to everyone not just 'poor persecuted Englanders' ,also a private housing association can make whatever rules they like

Gary L 21-03-2015 18:40

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35766425)
Really? I lived there for 4 years, my OH and 2 of her kids are English, my father was before he passed away and my son is half English. You run along and have fun making that one stick.

OK.
I'll be sure to make it round and blunt so the pain is minimal when you stick it up there :)

Arthurgray50@blu 22-03-2015 18:28

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Martyr and Ross. Its true, its my son's future father in law. And he is mad on Chelsea

tweetiepooh 23-03-2015 10:36

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
You should be able to support and display that support for any side in any sporting event wherever you are.

If you happen to be German living in London during a sporting event you should be able to safely fly the German flag and celebrate the likely beating of England in that event should the two teams meet.

If Rugby fans can safely mix up so should any other sporting event. It's only a game after all.

Stephen 23-03-2015 11:16

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Well I would disagree with that, in Glasgow anyway. Certainly would never fly a Celtic or Rangers flag in an area predominantly filled with opposing fans, that would be totally idiotic.

That goes deeper than just sport but heavy historical religious reasons.

Russ 23-03-2015 11:26

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35766746)
Well I would disagree with that, in Glasgow anyway. Certainly would never fly a Celtic or Rangers flag in an area predominantly filled with opposing fans, that would be totally idiotic.

That goes deeper than just sport but heavy historical religious reasons.

I think you have a point there as it's a known serious rivalry and you'd have good reason to expect violence to ensue. But a national flag in that nation, I see no problems with it.

Stephen 23-03-2015 11:51

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35766748)
I think you have a point there as it's a known serious rivalry and you'd have good reason to expect violence to ensue. But a national flag in that nation, I see no problems with it.

It goes further than that though, as most/many rangers fans would rather display the Union flag rather than the Scottish Saltire that Celtic fans are likely to display. Celtic fans would also display the Irish Tricolour flag.

Even that can cause trouble. Although Scotland is part of the union the fans would rather not see the flag. Due to the religious and historical problems. Also that goes for Northen Ireland too.

Rangers do play in red, white and blue mostly.

Russ 23-03-2015 12:09

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
That's more or less what I mean, if there were legitimate and proven reasons for why a flag should not be flown (such as those examples) I'd agree with it.

damien c 23-03-2015 12:54

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35766317)
Given Arthurs history of embellishment and non factual statements I'd be wary of taking the story of his friend being forced to remove flags from his windows as entirely factual

Unfortunately I could believe as a computer shop near where I live has had a English flag painted on the side of the building.

There was numerous complaints put in and the council tried to force the company owner to remove the paint, he refused and the paint is still on the wall.


If anyone tried telling me to take down a flag, if I put one up then they would be told to go away and grow up, I am English and I live in England if I want to fly a English Flag then I will and if it offends someone then that is because, they want to be offended by it and I am not bothered by it.

I don't care about people flying flags aslong as it's not promoting terrorism, and I don't care where someone comes from or what "higher power" they want to believe in, I don't believe in a "higher power" and aslong as they don't try to force it on me then I let them be, just as I won't try and force my belief of there not being a "higher power" on them.

People need to stop blaming Religion for everything though, as it's not always Religion that causes this stuff but merely people not understanding something properly in my oppinion.

richard s 23-03-2015 14:48

Re: Pupils 'banned from watching solar eclipse' for cultural and religious reasons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by damien c (Post 35766765)
unfortunately i could believe as a computer shop near where i live has had a english flag painted on the side of the building.

There was numerous complaints put in and the council tried to force the company owner to remove the paint, he refused and the paint is still on the wall.


If anyone tried telling me to take down a flag, if i put one up then they would be told to go away and grow up, i am english and i live in england if i want to fly a english flag then i will and if it offends someone then that is because, they want to be offended by it and i am not bothered by it.

good for him/her and you.


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