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alanbjames 19-02-2015 01:00

Pregnant woman on benefits plans child number 13 and 14
 
A pregnant mother-of-11 on £39,000 of benefits a year who broke up with her husband when he started relationship other women, now wants him back, to reverse his vasectomy and get her pregnant for a 13th time.


http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/18/pregna...nd-14-5067832/

papa smurf 19-02-2015 07:14

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its a love story :romance:

if that's the family car they are stood in front of they should get the social security to get them a bigger one

Ken W 19-02-2015 11:53

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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35760160)
A pregnant mother-of-11 on £39,000 of benefits a year who broke up with her husband when he started relationship other women, now wants him back, to reverse his vasectomy and get her pregnant for a 13th time.


http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/18/pregna...nd-14-5067832/

I thought that benefit was only for the first 2 children.

alanbjames 19-02-2015 12:11

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35760167)
its a love story :romance:

if that's the family car they are stood in front of they should get the social security to get them a bigger one

They will be needing a coach before long and a driver.

Osem 19-02-2015 12:33

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There are 2 Child Benefit rates.


Rate (weekly):
Eldest or only child £20.50
Additional children £13.55 per child


https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit/what-youll-get

Taf 19-02-2015 12:47

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Plus Tax credits... that's where the real money is.

heero_yuy 19-02-2015 12:49

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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35760221)
They will be needing a coach before long and a driver.

They'll be demanding a bigger house too, all on the state. The benefits system was never invisaged to support irresponsible woman like this but as a safety net for the unfortunate.

A benefits cap at the average wage (~£26,000) including deductions, so much less actual take-home pay and limiting child benefit to only two children might get these baby factories out of the birthing chair for 5 minutes.

Gary L 19-02-2015 12:59

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35760241)
limiting child benefit to only two children might get these baby factories out of the birthing chair for 5 minutes.

I don't think it will really.
if a third baby came along I can't see anyone saying something like "tough, it will have to starve"

Well actually I can see that happening.

heero_yuy 19-02-2015 13:02

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35760245)
I don't think it will really.
if a third baby came along I can't see anyone saying something like "tough, it will have to starve"

Well actually I can see that happening.

No. They will be compelled by law to provide for it: Means they'll have to economise elsewhere or work harder.

Gary L 19-02-2015 13:05

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As I said then "Tough"

and the baby says "I didn't ask to be born into this world. are you saying that you're not going to help me. and see me starve if she can't feed me?"

and they'll say "Yes. your mum will just have to get a job or something. next!"

heero_yuy 19-02-2015 13:20

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35760251)
As I said then "Tough"

Yes!

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and the baby says "I didn't ask to be born into this world. are you saying that you're not going to help me. and see me starve if she can't feed me?"
Then she'll be done by the cops for child abuse and the baby will be fostered out to somebody who will look after it

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and they'll say "Yes. your mum will just have to get a job or something. next!"
Next! Move along, move along.

Gary L 19-02-2015 13:23

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35760255)
Next! Move along, move along.

You're all heart you are.

this is what Britain is coming to. we all hate each other. because David and his men told us to :)

heero_yuy 19-02-2015 13:29

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35760257)
You're all heart you are.

I've been told that.:D

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this is what Britain is coming to. we all hate each other. because David and his men told us to :)
No, it's those of us who work hard and pay our taxes hate seeing our money given to breeding chavvy layabouts and at the same time depriving those in genuine need of the money they deserve.

Hurts all three groups: Me 'cos I have to pay extra tax, layabout breeders because they won't better themselves and the genuinely needy having to go cap-in-hand to try and get some help.

Gary L 19-02-2015 13:33

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35760259)
No, it's those of us who work hard and pay our taxes hate seeing our money given to breeding chavvy layabouts and at the same time depriving those in genuine need of the money they deserve.

Hurts all three groups: Me 'cos I have to pay extra tax, layabout breeders because they won't better themselves and the genuinely needy having to go cap-in-hand to try and get some help.

Look into my eyes....
"Hard working people"

let the baby starve.

Hugh 19-02-2015 16:42

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Well, you could always give it some of your food, Gary....

Jimmy-J 19-02-2015 19:24

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Good on them, the more the merrier.

Gary L 19-02-2015 21:09

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35760335)
Well, you could always give it some of your food, Gary....

Okey Kokey.
will do :tu:

deadite66 20-02-2015 07:17

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No need to let the baby starve, if the family is unable to care for it properly the government can give it to a family that will.

Gary L 20-02-2015 07:43

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But not to a family on benefits who already have 2 kids.
if they had 1 kid already and this one made it 2. and then they had another baby of their own. can they throw this one back in for someone else to have?

or will the government say you'll have to keep it and decide which of the 3 will have to starve?
or can they give the new baby to a family that will care for it?

Jimmy-J 20-02-2015 09:10

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Better still, why not just kill the kids and have done with it, we'd save a fortune.

Gary L 20-02-2015 11:04

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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35760456)
Better still, why not just kill the kids and have done with it, we'd save a fortune.

Or set up an official online thing where you can buy and sell them.

heero_yuy 20-02-2015 11:08

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35760473)
Or set up an official online thing where you can buy and sell them.

Ebaby. :D

Mr Banana 20-02-2015 11:12

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Wonder if it ever crosses their mind that when the final child leaves home, they end up back in a one bedroomed house with basic benefits?

nomadking 20-02-2015 11:39

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35760475)
Wonder if it ever crosses their mind that when the final child leaves home, they end up back in a one bedroomed house with basic benefits?

Seeing as she's only 32, that's a long way off.

heero_yuy 20-02-2015 11:48

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35760484)
Seeing as she's only 32, that's a long way off.

Conceivably [sic] she could drop another 15-20.:(

Osem 20-02-2015 11:51

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There's a woman who lives not far from us who has 4 kids (by 3 different fathers) ranging from about 6 years old to early/mid 20's. She's never worked since she had kids in her teens and is living on benefits in a large split level 3 bedroom housing association flat. Despite being well educated and coming from an upper middle class family, she's freely admitted to us that she has no intention of ever going to work and will probably have 1 or 2 more children in the next few years. For her having kids and living on benefits is a lifestyle choice and one which clearly pays quite nicely thanks.

Escapee 20-02-2015 12:26

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35760475)
Wonder if it ever crosses their mind that when the final child leaves home, they end up back in a one bedroomed house with basic benefits?

Although they don't need to worry about the future like those of us working to provide for it, they they only need to worry about the gap between their youngest kid reaching the end of full education and their own pension date.

Osem 20-02-2015 15:36

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35760490)
Although they don't need to worry about the future like those of us working to provide for it, they they only need to worry about the gap between their youngest kid reaching the end of full education and their own pension date.

Yup. Retirement from what though? Certainly not work.

richard s 20-02-2015 15:53

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Chop his off and sow hers up! Sorted

Gary L 20-02-2015 16:31

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35760474)
Ebaby. :D

Yeh. where the gingers are given away :)

Mr Banana 20-02-2015 16:58

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35760490)
Although they don't need to worry about the future like those of us working to provide for it, they they only need to worry about the gap between their youngest kid reaching the end of full education and their own pension date.

Cack life though if thats all you have to look forward to.

Escapee 20-02-2015 20:34

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35760528)
Cack life though if thats all you have to look forward to.

Is it not better that I attempt to put enough aside so that I can can hopefully live comfortably and I am not cold and hungry in my old age?

Mr Banana 20-02-2015 21:48

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35760558)
Is it not better that I attempt to put enough aside so that I can can hopefully live comfortably and I am not cold and hungry in my old age?

Sorry didn't realise the article was about you.

Escapee 21-02-2015 07:51

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35760566)
Sorry didn't realise the article was about you.

I assumed your comment was to my post which was prior to it and it appeared to apply to it. My response wasn't in an aggressive manner, I apologise if you felt it were.

I don't think they look forward to anything, but I guess they fear the period between the last kid leaving school and their pension date.

alanbjames 21-02-2015 11:25

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35760245)
I don't think it will really.
if a third baby came along I can't see anyone saying something like "tough, it will have to starve"

Well actually I can see that happening.

When Cameron came into power one of his promises was to provide state benefits for upto 2 children only but nothing ever came of it.

I am 63 and i know a woman who has never worked in her life and was in the same class as i was in school. She was married for 29 years and he died in a works accident, she then remarried and had more kids. Her husbands have always worked while she sat on her backside taking benefits for the 7 kids she has. And what really annoys me is when i get flack on here in the what have u bought section because im now on benefits after a stroke having worked 43 years and caring for my mum 6 years early in life before she died and i started work.

Mr Angry 21-02-2015 11:52

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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35760613)
When Cameron came into power one of his promises was to provide state benefits for upto 2 children only but nothing ever came of it.

I am 63 and i know a woman who has never worked in her life and was in the same class as i was in school. She was married for 29 years and he died in a works accident, she then remarried and had more kids. Her husbands have always worked while she sat on her backside taking benefits for the 7 kids she has. And what really annoys me is when i get flack on here in the what have u bought section because im now on benefits after a stroke having worked 43 years and caring for my mum 6 years early in life before she died and i started work.

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FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.

ALL:They won't!

© Monty Python - 1974.

Repeat as necessary.


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