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Jimmy-J 16-02-2015 20:36

'Ukip: The First Hundred Days'
 
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An apocalyptic portrayal of what British life would be like if Nigel Farage became Prime Minister has sparked a series of complaints – even before it has been aired.

The film shows Ukip winning a slim majority in May's Election, but within three months the country is on the brink of collapse under Mr Farage's leadership.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...red.html#video

Pierre 16-02-2015 20:56

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I don't see how they can get away with broadcasting this so close to the election.

Osem 16-02-2015 21:11

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Regardless of how accurate it might prove to be, it shows how worried some folks are about Farage and UKIP.

Gary L 16-02-2015 21:43

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35759760)
Regardless of how accurate it might prove to be, it shows how worried some folks are about Farage and UKIP.

Free publicity is good publicity.
this may be the push that give UKIP the keys to number 10.

I can tell you're worried about this too.

Roll on May!

denphone 17-02-2015 04:23

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35759760)
Regardless of how accurate it might prove to be, it shows how worried some folks are about Farage and UKIP.

Personally Osem l think they will be lucky to get into double figures come the General Election as l expect quite a few to return to their normal voting patterns.

TheDaddy 17-02-2015 06:06

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35759758)
I don't see how they can get away with broadcasting this so close to the election.

Its ages away and I credit the voting public with more wit than to be fooled by any one programme or newspaper

This might help you though

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bro...ode/elections/

Damien 17-02-2015 07:38

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35759791)
Its ages away and I credit the voting public with more wit than to be fooled by any one programme or newspaper

This might help you though

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bro...ode/elections/

This is (probably) the relevant part:

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Meaning of "election period":
For a parliamentary general election, this period begins with the announcement of the dissolution of Parliament

Osem 17-02-2015 08:19

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35759788)
Personally Osem l think they will be lucky to get into double figures come the General Election as l expect quite a few to return to their normal voting patterns.

I tend to agree in part. I think they'll get lots of votes but won't win many seats. Having said that, the FibDems have proved you don't need many seats to exercise a disproportionate amount of power.

Anyway maybe some programme maker or other will be brave enough to do a 'fictional documentary' on what the UK would have been like had Brown and his bunch of ruinous, out of touch, social engineering hypocrites won the last election. Maybe it could have been called "Brown - The UK's Last 100 Days". Frankly God only knows where we'd be now if that had happened so thank the Lord they didn't.

Gary L 17-02-2015 08:44

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Or do one showing Dave getting another 5 years and where society eventualy breaks. stealing and fighting each other. the dwindling respect for the law hits rock bottom. Dave getting fatter than he already is.
people dying at the side of the road because the NHS has been destroyed.
nobody caring for anyone anymore. babies dying of starvation and the authorities saying "cuts, cuts, resources, not our problem"

and no10 burning down after Dave and George run off with all the money.

Ramrod 17-02-2015 11:32

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35759803)

and no10 burning down after Dave and George run off with all the money.

As opposed to after the other lot spend all the money :(

Osem 17-02-2015 12:28

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35759809)
As opposed to after the other lot spend all the money :(

Yeah it's odd how many times some strange folks need to be reminded of Labour's financial 'prudence' isn't it. Labour have always been good at spending/wasting money they don't have and then walking away from the resulting mess. Fortunately we're here to jog memories... :D

papa smurf 17-02-2015 13:46

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35759758)
I don't see how they can get away with broadcasting this so close to the election.

i thought that as well its clearly part of a smear campaign
it just shows how much the established political rabble are bum twitching ahead of the election

alanbjames 17-02-2015 14:06

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I dont see the problem with it, at the end of the day all its down to is the persons opinion who ever put the show together. Channel 4 got into the same trouble over that documentry on Gary Glitter if the death penalty was still in force he would have been hanged.

OK one person may think its biased but as i said its just one persons opinion.

Why arnt people showing the same sort of reaction to the biased newspapers such as The Sun etc.

Chris 17-02-2015 14:21

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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35759833)
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Why arnt people showing the same sort of reaction to the biased newspapers such as The Sun etc.

Because newspapers are free to print whatever they want, in favour of whoever they like. Bias is part of the game.

Unlike TV broadcasters, and especially unlike public service TV broadcasters, which operate under licence and are subject to a regulator.

We don't have an equivalent of Fox News in this country for that reason. Regardless of how close we are to a general election, I'm amazed Channel 4 has done this.

RizzyKing 17-02-2015 15:01

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Not many people have forgotten what labour did and are not likely too for a long time but just because they got it so wrong doesn't mean anything is better and I'm more worried about the type of society my kids and grandkids will be living in. This conservative party is hardly full of in touch with reality people and the change in society in just their first five years is worrying and they've had to rein themselves in because of the lib dems another five years of a majority Tory party and society will be tearing itself apart. I dont trust any of the main parties enough to give them my vote this time round and I don't see it getting better anytime soon I think the days of a true public servant are gone though I hope they return.

Ramrod 17-02-2015 15:13

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35759845)
Not many people have forgotten what labour did

Sadly, I think that you are wrong on that score.

Osem 17-02-2015 15:35

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35759845)
Not many people have forgotten what labour did and are not likely too for a long time but just because they got it so wrong doesn't mean anything is better and I'm more worried about the type of society my kids and grandkids will be living in. This conservative party is hardly full of in touch with reality people and the change in society in just their first five years is worrying and they've had to rein themselves in because of the lib dems another five years of a majority Tory party and society will be tearing itself apart. I dont trust any of the main parties enough to give them my vote this time round and I don't see it getting better anytime soon I think the days of a true public servant are gone though I hope they return.

I think a lot of people have both short and selective memories but your're right that Labour's mistakes don't mean 'anything' is preferable (even though you'd have to go a long way to find anything worse.. ;) ).

Fortunately we're in a position to judge the alternatives yet a lot of people will always vote the same way no matter what. I believe it's that fact which has created the complacency and contempt for the electorate which is evident amongst a good many of our politicians at any time other than just before an election. UKIP is focusing minds amongst the cosy political elite and it's about time someone did.

Damien 17-02-2015 15:58

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35759837)
Because newspapers are free to print whatever they want, in favour of whoever they like. Bias is part of the game.

Unlike TV broadcasters, and especially unlike public service TV broadcasters, which operate under licence and are subject to a regulator.

We don't have an equivalent of Fox News in this country for that reason. Regardless of how close we are to a general election, I'm amazed Channel 4 has done this.

It is a drama however and I am not sure they're subject to the same rules as news programs. There have been plenty of political dramas with real world parties and politicians being covered and I don't think there has been an issue over perceived bias. The subjects don't like them obviously but they're still aired.

Taf 17-02-2015 17:21

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35759830)
it just shows how much the established political rabble are bum twitching ahead of the election

Full-on pebble-dashing their toilets soon enough. :D

Osem 17-02-2015 18:03

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Apparently Farage has just announced he'll close down C4 if he gets elected... :D

Escapee 19-02-2015 13:47

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I would have loved one showing the first hundred days of the Green's and what their policies would do to the country.

I guess the difference is that the Greens are not any threat to the establishment yet, perhaps they will get their turn the next time around.

heero_yuy 19-02-2015 13:54

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35759888)
Apparently Farage has just announced he'll close down C4 if he gets elected... :D

Would anybody notice?

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35760293)
I would have loved one showing the first hundred days of the Green's and what their policies would do to the country.

No cars, compulsary muesli for breakfast and hessian shirts all round.

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I guess the difference is that the Greens are not any threat to the establishment yet, perhaps they will get their turn the next time around.
May saints and angels protect us.

Escapee 19-02-2015 13:59

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35760297)
Would anybody notice?



No cars, compulsary muesli for breakfast and hessian shirts all round.



May saints and angels protect us.

I would be out of a job, no hang on I'm safe they say they that after slashing the defence budget, defence industry workers would be employed making wind turbines.

rhyds 19-02-2015 14:02

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35760298)
I would be out of a job, no hang on I'm safe they say they that after slashing the defence budget, defence industry workers would be employed making wind turbines.

Only you could only build them when the wind was blowing, the rain was falling and the sun out, otherwise there's not enough electricity to run the machines.

Damien 19-02-2015 14:08

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35760293)
I would have loved one showing the first hundred days of the Green's and what their policies would do to the country.

That was the original subject but UKIP's rise caused them to switch.


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I guess the difference is that the Greens are not any threat to the establishment yet, perhaps they will get their turn the next time around.
Nor are UKIP really. The real threat comes from the SNP but few seem to be talking about it.

Escapee 19-02-2015 14:57

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Originally Posted by rhyds (Post 35760302)
Only you could only build them when the wind was blowing, the rain was falling and the sun out, otherwise there's not enough electricity to run the machines.

From my desk in work I can see 3 within a 5 minute walking distance, I do observe that they appear to be stopped more than they are running because either there is not enough or too much wind. I often comment that if the Greens get in power it would be another day without electricity;)

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35760305)
That was the original subject but UKIP's rise caused them to switch.




Nor are UKIP really. The real threat comes from the SNP but few seem to be talking about it.

Yes I read that they considered making the programme about the Greens, but I do wonder if UKIP were the focus all along and that is just a smokescreen.

I agree about the SNP, Labour are a big concern but a government after April with SNP, Greens or Plaid Cymru involved is something I do not wish to consider.

Hugh 19-02-2015 15:40

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Strange, I can't find similar outrage on the forum when the similar docu-drama "When Boris met Dave" was shown on More4/C4, or the C4 comedy "The Hunt for Tony Blair" was shown, or the C4 drama "The Deal" (about Blair and Brown), or "The New Statesman", or "The Thick of It, or "Absolute Power".

It's almost as if UKIP supporters don't remember the same thing happening to other parties......

Escapee 19-02-2015 15:47

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35760334)
Strange, I can't find similar outrage on the forum when the similar docu-drama "When Boris met Dave" was shown on More4/C4, or the C4 comedy "The Hunt for Tony Blair" was shown, or the C4 drama "The Deal" (about Blair and Brown), or "The New Statesman", or "The Thick of It, or "Absolute Power".

It's almost as if UKIP supporters don't remember the same thing happening to other parties......

I haven't seen any of them Hugh, I admit I haven't seen the UKIP one either. So I have no idea about the content, were the others in the lead-up to the last election?

Damien 19-02-2015 16:02

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35760338)
I haven't seen any of them Hugh, I admit I haven't seen the UKIP one either. So I have no idea about the content, were the others in the lead-up to the last election?

Boris and Dave & The Thick Of It aired in the October before I think. Not sure about the rest.

Escapee 19-02-2015 16:12

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35760342)
Boris and Dave & The Thick Of It aired in the October before I think. Not sure about the rest.

I had a quick search.

"When Boris met Dave" is described as a Docu-rama 2000 based on real interviews.

"Hunt for Blair" was 2011 so long after he had gone.

"The Deal" 2003 was about a well known deal between Blair and Brown where Brown would not stand in Blair's way for the PM job.

"In the thick of it" 2005, this was satire about government in general appears to be satire.

"Absolute Power" 2000 fictional, Wiki doesn't indicate it to be about any particular party.

None of the above appear to be docu-ramas leading up to an election with the intention of scaremongering.

Hugh 19-02-2015 16:21

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Scaremongering?

Remember, it was positing that UKIP would win the Election - that's not fiction, it's fantasy....

Escapee 19-02-2015 16:39

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35760353)
Scaremongering?

Remember, it was positing that UKIP would win the Election - that's not fiction, it's fantasy....

But did it not have similarities to "Hitler's Britain" which that was docu-rama predicting fear that didn't happen because it was historical based., The First Hundred Days is intended to have an effect on a future by scaremongering to deter people from voting for UKIP.

papa smurf 23-02-2015 16:03

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TV watchdog launches investigation after more than FIVE THOUSAND complaints about 'biased' Channel 4 docudrama which imagined a Ukip election win

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3SaYNrj6j
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Mr Angry 23-02-2015 20:50

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35761015)
TV watchdog launches investigation after more than FIVE THOUSAND complaints about 'biased' Channel 4 docudrama which imagined a Ukip election win

Yes, it would appear that Britain first (a group too extreme even for Jim Dowson - its founder - who said at the time of his resignation "the group is being overrun with racists and extremists") have played a part in this.

Far-right group orchestrated email campaign over Ukip drama.

"A significant proportion of the 6,500 complaints made about a controversial film imagining the early days of a Ukip government were the result of an orchestrated campaign by a far-right group known for its paramilitary style actions, the Guardian has learned."


Cardigan.

papa smurf 23-02-2015 21:34

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35761105)
Yes, it would appear that Britain first (a group too extreme even for Jim Dowson - its founder - who said at the time of his resignation "the group is being overrun with racists and extremists") have played a part in this.

Far-right group orchestrated email campaign over Ukip drama.

"A significant proportion of the 6,500 complaints made about a controversial film imagining the early days of a Ukip government were the result of an orchestrated campaign by a far-right group known for its paramilitary style actions, the Guardian has learned."


Cardigan.


you missed out this
"although the Guardian could not confirm those figures."

Mr Angry 23-02-2015 21:50

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35761120)
you missed out this
"although the Guardian could not confirm those figures."

I didn't miss it out, it's there for all to see for anyone who follows the link.

Others who follow the link will also see that Britain First themselves claim to have sent 2100 complaints, the Guardian are simply saying they couldn't confirm those figures.

Russ 24-02-2015 05:52

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35760359)
But did it not have similarities to "Hitler's Britain" which that was docu-rama predicting fear that didn't happen because it was historical based.,

They were produced by the same person, Richard Bond.

papa smurf 24-02-2015 06:31

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35761125)
I didn't miss it out, it's there for all to see for anyone who follows the link.

Others who follow the link will also see that Britain First themselves claim to have sent 2100 complaints, the Guardian are simply saying they couldn't confirm those figures.

so a possible fabrication due to total lack of proof ...

Mr Angry 24-02-2015 09:33

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35761150)
so a possible fabrication due to total lack of proof ...

Yes. I wouldn't put anything past Britain First and I think the Guardian are right to question their claims as to the numbers they say have protested via their site.

That aside, and back to the main thrust of the story, it's interesting that a far right grouping would be offended on behalf of another right grouping. Interesting that our so called "Patriots" are so thin skinned, don't you think?

Pierre 24-02-2015 11:37

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left - right - middle

everybody has the right to complain, why is it an issue?

papa smurf 24-02-2015 15:40

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35761176)
Yes. I wouldn't put anything past Britain First and I think the Guardian are right to question their claims as to the numbers they say have protested via their site.

That aside, and back to the main thrust of the story, it's interesting that a far right grouping would be offended on behalf of another right grouping. Interesting that our so called "Patriots" are so thin skinned, don't you think?

unless the Guardian made the whole thing up and Britain first don't know anything about it .

Russ 24-02-2015 15:48

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This could so easily tie in with the "are we being offended too easily" thread. As Mr A says, it's ironic that a far right group is being offended on behalf of another with similar views, considering it's often often members of either who are commenting when lefties get offended on behalf of minorities or protected groups.

If I was a stereotypical hardcore Ukipper I doubt I'd be offended in reality - what Bond's mockumentary showed was a vision of Britain that a lot of right-wingers seem to want. Robust enforcement of the removal of illegal immigrants, a 'Festival of Britain' bank holiday etc, all seeming to fall in line with what it appears they'd like.

Mr Angry 24-02-2015 16:20

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35761240)
unless the Guardian made the whole thing up and Britain first don't know anything about it .

They'd have a hard job explaining this, then.

papa smurf 24-02-2015 16:35

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35761254)
They'd have a hard job explaining this, then.

its not working for me is it broken ?

Mr Angry 24-02-2015 16:37

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35761257)
its not working for me is it broken ?

Bless.

papa smurf 24-02-2015 16:41

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35761258)
Bless.

is it home made :shrug:

TheDaddy 24-02-2015 19:10

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35761257)
its not working for me is it broken ?

Britain or the link? Probably both :erm:

Pierre 24-02-2015 19:53

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35761254)
They'd have a hard job explaining this, then.

Where is the link to the site that was posted on?

Hugh 24-02-2015 20:20

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35761319)
Where is the link to the site that was posted on?

here you go.....

https://www.britainfirst.org/campaigns/

Excuse me, I'm off to disinfect my iPad.....

Pierre 24-02-2015 20:54

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35761326)
here you go.....

https://www.britainfirst.org/campaigns/

Excuse me, I'm off to disinfect my iPad.....

They have some lovely apparel in their store!

papa smurf 24-02-2015 21:03

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35761332)
They have some lovely apparel in their store!

oh yea that's xmas sorted ;)


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