'Diet or lose benefits', unemployed obese warned
 

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2015-0...-obese-warned/

Why is it that Cameron and his awful government are picking on the poor and sick again.

Not only does he constantly attack the poor in Welfare cuts. He will now hit the fat and obese people.

He should hit the rich who fiddle there taxes. And those who refuse to pay more tax and use companies to avoid paying taxes:mad:

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There are a lot of people on benefits only because they are fat or are addicted to drugs or alcohol. In many (most?) cases this will be self-inflicted, and should not be supported by the taxpayer. Help to recover is the best option IMHO.

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Arthur read what's being proposed please it's a possible policy not set in stone and as long as sufficient treatment is available it won't just be ordinary working people that support this but many claimants as well. If treatment is available to someone and they refuse to take it then there should be a penalty because if my condition could be treated so I could work I'd be all over it and don't understand why someone wouldn't. Being honest I also am not keen on me being placed in the same category as people who can get their problems resolved but choose not to as nothing I can do will make mine go away and the best doctors can do is try to reduce pain totally different.

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Hmmmm...

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There are times when I am extraordinarily glad I can't see properly :)

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:sick:

But what is the problem here? Too many people have deliberately made themselves unemployable yet expect the state to keep their fat back sides fed.

By all means help those who want to be helped but it's about time the carear benefits recipients were made to face up to their failings.

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He's got a job

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You mean people like this Arthur?

http://order-order.com/2015/02/12/fl...s-avoided-tax/

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Arthur I've said before there needs to be reform of the benefit system and I'd love to believe the conservatives or any political party was going to do it properly rather then speak about it or pretend they are doing it when they are doing nothing of the kind. The system was intended to be there "for those who through no fault of their own" needed it not because some not all but quite a few couldn't stop stuffing food\alcohol down their throat or smoking\injecting it that's an abuse of the system. There have been many cases where help has been rolled out to some only for them to not bother after a couple of visits safe that the system will take a while to realise they didn't bother. There are legitimate things to throw at the government this isn't one of them and you need to take some time after reading things arthur to have a think before jumping on here with entrenched anti Tory rubbish they have handed out more then enough ammo to use without you making some up.

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I don't see a problem here.

People are too fat and lazy and need a good kick up the arse to get them moving and being more healthy.

People are too reliant on hand outs and aren't willing to sort themselves out.

You claim the Government are trying to hurt the sick or poor. But in actual fact they are trying to help those who are fat and lazy. Many people on benefits are there through choice and can't be bothered doing anything about their lie/lifestyle.

They are trying to save tax payers money that is being spent on junkies and fatties.

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Great lets euthanize the fatties, obese, druggies, alcoholics, smokers - that will save us loads of Tax money - then I wonder what the savings will, if ever will be spent on.

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that old favorite foreign aid ;)

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Are you really supporting state aided obesity, alcoholism and drug addiction? Or is it that giant anti Tory chip on your shoulder?

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on a more serious note i welcome anything that will get the bone idle piece of ***** that i live next door to into work -mid thirties and never worked just boozes and breeds at my expense ,sharing his time among the other scroungers in the street all doing the same every day boozing and breeding :(

i bumped into him last Sunday and he had the brass nuts to tell me he was taking it easy cos its Sunday [i went into the house mad as hell taking it kin easy the bone idle ****]

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:clap:

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How the hell can they afford to drink all the time most of my money is gone after bills and food shop how do they manage it though that said there is a group of single mothers in Starbucks everyday usually complaining about how they don't have money to go out at weekends. If I could afford it I'd go buy a jar of instant put it on their table and mention the money saved by going to each others house and drinking that rather then the £4 a mug of warm cats pee they chug down. With the exception of Arthur no one really thinks the system is working but damned if we can get anyone to really sort it out.

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On the other hand, your neighbour is not likely to be a member of the “Westminster Ring”

Just trying to keep things in perspective.... ;)

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I have seen people get obese so they are clinically unable to work so they live off benefits, then if female have kids to further cement it.

But there is people out there who is medically unable to lose weight etc. And it would be unfair to put them in the same basket.

But I can see why, it is quite simple.... at the most give people who can work a 2yr benefit amount, if they find nothing in 2yrs.... bye benefits. They will soon quickly change attitudes and find work if available.

And what makes it so funny, is most of these people are the ones that complain that the Polish etc are stealing all their jobs. So much hypocrisy these days, it isn't even funny anymore :P

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Is that a rhetorical question? :D

Providing due care is exercised in the process I don't see any reason not to help and incentivise people who's lives have, through choice, become so unhealthy that they can't work. Difficult medical judgements and decisions have to be made all the time and I don't see that this is different but where there's a clear medical/psychological reason for the problem, that must be taken into account and allowed for.

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So how many fat ppl will use mental health issues as a way to get round it

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If they claim mental health issues as factor then presumably they'll need to agree to treatment for those issues.

Re: 'Diet or lose benefits', unemployed obese warned
 

"The burger talks to me. it tells me to eat it. and the pizzas threaten to kill me and I think that eating as many as I can of them reduces the threat"

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It's the same story in Wetherspoons, I go in my local one for breakfast on a Friday or Saturday morning and take the partners youngest in for breakfast on a Sunday. The same group of benefit claimants are in them every time, they are often complaining as they wait because alcohol is not served until 9am, in my local one they drift in and start drinking from around 8.25am.

I went in Tuesday evening with both of the partners kids at 7.30pm because she was working late and I hate cooking. The regular benefit claimants were either still in their regular seats or the standing ones were clinging on to the bar. Tim Martin is the individual who has benefited most from our generous handouts to benefit claimants.