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Osem 22-01-2015 19:19

2 1/2 years for fatal child abuse
 
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A dad from South East London who neglected his one year old daughter before she died has been jailed for two and a half years.
http://www.heart.co.uk/london/news/l...Fje8MwvSuYU.99

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Amani Mohamed was found with 70 separate fractures to her body at her home in Abbey Wood in February 2013. She was unresponsive when she was found and she was declared dead in hospital less than half an hour later.

Her father Shidane Omar Mohamed, 44, (pictured) has been given a two and a half year jail sentence for child neglect and and her mother, Kafiyu Dahir Tabarak, 36, has given a two year suspended sentence and told to adhere to a curfew between the hours of 9pm and 6am...

... "The level of abuse suffered by this toddler was incomprehensible; even more so given that the abuse was inflicted by either one or both of her parents."
I can't imagine any reasonable person believes these sentences properly reflect the severity of the crime so hope they're reviewed and increased significantly.

Sirius 22-01-2015 19:22

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35754558)
http://www.heart.co.uk/london/news/l...Fje8MwvSuYU.99



I can't imagine any reasonable person believes these sentences properly reflect the severity of the crime so hope they're reviewed and increased significantly.

Law for one and a different law for others.

denphone 22-01-2015 19:24

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Absolutely shocking and like you l think the sentences should be much more severe Osem.:mad:

Russ 22-01-2015 19:27

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35754559)
Law for one and a different law for others.

If by the 'one' you're referring to him likely being Muslim then I don't know about that but it's certainly a disgustingly short sentence.

Gary L 22-01-2015 19:31

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35754559)
Law for one and a different law for others.

Was the law lenient towards them because of their race/colour then?

reading it. it looks like it may be because they refused to speak.

joglynne 22-01-2015 19:43

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Child neglect!!

These poor excuses for parents murdered their child and have just been given low level sentences for a much lesser offence than causing the death of an innocent child. Surely the law must be changed if refusing to explain how a child in your care suffered 70 separate fractures on her body over a period of two to four weeks means you get away with a much lesser charge.

I don't normally want retribution but in this case I hope his fellow inmates get the chance to show him how much pain he caused this poor child and how frightened she must have been.

Taf 22-01-2015 20:05

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His "fellow inmates" could probably be of the same ilk as many get segregated by religion.

Sirius 22-01-2015 20:30

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35754562)
If by the 'one' you're referring to him likely being Muslim then I don't know about that but it's certainly a disgustingly short sentence.

The problem for me is will we see this get refereed back to the court for being to lenient, i bet not.

weenie 22-01-2015 21:21

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I think that most people will be absolutely disgusted at this sentence given, I know I am.

greeninferno 24-01-2015 00:09

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Amani Mohamed was found with 70 separate fractures to her body
that is murder

they should both be hanging from the end of a rope.

alanbjames 24-01-2015 00:26

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Just another example of the British law system not wanting to look Racist.

Its getting to a point that a hate preacher will be part of the cabinet in the government because of representation and free speech.

zoombini 24-01-2015 14:58

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Are you surprised?

I have seen similar cases get similar sentences, he will be out in 12-18 months for good behaviour. :(

Osem 24-01-2015 17:25

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No not surprised at all. But then if the public doesn't bother to react to unfairnesses such as this, things will never change. It really is disgusting to think that an animal like this who refused to even answer questions about the abuse could be walking free by the summer of next year. :mad:

Russ 25-01-2015 08:43

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Playing devil's advocate here, I don't see anything that suggests his background, race, perceived religion etc played a part in the sentence. It does seem unduly light obviously but there are countless cases where criminals adhering to the type of demographic that people are hinting at in this thread have received long and "more justified" stretches inside.

I would have suggested mitigating circumstances such as an early guilty plea etc but it says he didn't answer any police questions. It's odd but I just can't see anything 'PC' going on here.

Osem 25-01-2015 11:21

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Behaviour likes this is not exclusive to certain races/cultures as plenty of threads on this site clearly demonstrate. What may be an issue is a certain 'reluctance' on the part of the authorities to expose and robustly deal with situations in which there seems to be a significant racial or cultural component. I don't think that's the case here however and it'll be interesting to find out whether there will be an appeal.

joglynne 25-01-2015 11:55

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I too doubt whether race came into play in this case.

I think it was a question of bringing a charge that could be proved. With neither parent putting forward an explanation or being willing to give evidence that would have backed a murder charge I suspect that the CPS would have chosen a lesser charge over a charge of murder for which this man could have been found not guilty on the evidence held.

Osem 25-01-2015 12:02

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That wouldn't surprise me, sadly. It's hard to stomach people who've done such an awful thing being able to effectively sidestep justice in that manner.

Gary L 25-01-2015 12:07

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Just goes to prove that if you don't admit to anything. (even though it's obvious)
and/or you don't say anything.

you will get away with it.

papa smurf 25-01-2015 12:16

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35755070)
Just goes to prove that if you don't admit to anything. (even though it's obvious)
and/or you don't say anything.

you will get away with it.

i'm saying nothing :disturbd:

Russ 25-01-2015 12:19

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35755070)
Just goes to prove that if you don't admit to anything. (even though it's obvious)
and/or you don't say anything.

you will get away with it.

Except if you have some evidence or something in your favour you hide until court.

Gary L 25-01-2015 12:48

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35755071)
i'm saying nothing :disturbd:

Another one for you :)

When the police man asks you to sign something. and you say what's that for?
he tries to make it sound really casual and says "Oh it's nothing. it's just to say that I've spoken to you"

and you say "No thanks"

and from then on he starts getting a bit wound up just because you won't give him your autograph. so he gets his mate out. and his mate says "Why won't you sign it? it's just to say that you were stopped today"

and then you say "No thanks"

then they realise that they're not gonna get your autograph. even if they beat it out of you :)

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35755073)
Except if you have some evidence or something in your favour you hide until court.

Eh?

devilincarnate 25-01-2015 14:49

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They should just hang the B

Osem 30-01-2015 22:24

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... and this is just the sort of sentence which puts into perspective what these 'parents' did the their punishment.

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Four burglars who took part in a violent raid which left a lecturer "unrecognisable" have been jailed.

Paul Kohler, 55, needed facial reconstruction surgery after the attack in Kings Road, Wimbledon, on 11 August.

Mariusz Tomaszewski, 32, and Pawel Honc, 24, received 19 years each after admitting causing grievous bodily harm with intent and aggravated burglary.

Oskar Pawlowicz, 30, and Dawid Tychon, 29, who admitted aggravated burglary, were sentenced to 13 years each
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31056608

Yes the cases are different but there was clearly intent to do great, possibly, fatal harm to the vicitms in both cases, so how can gross and sustained abuse leading to the death of a totally helpless baby be treated so much more leniently? :shrug:

Ramrod 31-01-2015 00:50

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Put me in a room with him, please.

greeninferno 31-01-2015 23:10

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35756240)
... and this is just the sort of sentence which puts into perspective what these 'parents' did the their punishment.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31056608

Yes the cases are different but there was clearly intent to do great, possibly, fatal harm to the vicitms in both cases, so how can gross and sustained abuse leading to the death of a totally helpless baby be treated so much more leniently? :shrug:

Absolutely

doesn't make any sense.


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