Who is Muhammad (peace be upon him)
 

Not on Facebook, Not on Instagram, Not on Twitter, but has a following of 1.7 Billion.
A man so great, that 1400 years later they're still trying to assassinate his character yet his status only rises.

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1.7 Billion Sheep ..... Baaaaaa

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A man so great he and his adherents can't cope with a few cartoons being scribbled without people having to die for it, sounds a little bit insecure to me

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Here we go again, :blah::blah::blah: .and ally snackbar to you to

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Almost as many as Oprah.

no they're assassinating anyone that characterises him. Subtle difference.

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a war lord and kiddy molester if my history is correct peace my ass :td:

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You need to add to any retort " please dont behead me on the internet" :shocked:

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His status is pretty low on Cable Forum.

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and very good at getting his followers to 'bulldoze' all that don't agree with him.

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I hate to break this to you, Sir, but Muhammad died quite some time ago.

No need to wish him peace, his remains are I imagine quite peaceful.

I would challenge you and all Muslims to stop indoctrinating their children and indeed their subjects in the case of Islamic states into Islam from an early age, however, and let them discover your Prophet's apparent greatness for themselves when they are old enough to be critical, skeptical and hold views of their own if you are so confident of it.

Yes, this does mean not forcing them to attend mosque from the age of 4 or 5 and not telling them that the Koran is literal, historical fact.

Anyway, good morning!

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1.7 billion? So, roughly the combined populations of all the places where not being a Muslim is either illegal, or likely to get you driven out of your village, or both. Nice.

Tell you what, let's wait until the Islamic states have gone through reformation and enlightenment, as Christendom did centuries ago, and then see how many people choose to follow the Religion of Peace™ once it's entirely optional.

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Re: who is Muhammad (peace be upon him)
 

Are you a nice Muslim
or a bad Muslim?

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So thats 5.6 Billion who don't follow him. Bit like supporting Accrington Stanley or Man Utd.

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There is enough room on this planet to accommodate all religions, what I don't get is why Islam is the only religion that uses threats of death to those that don't want to follow.
Surely it's better to live a life that you want to lead rather than being forced/radicalised into following.
There are enough states in the middle East to accommodate all Muslims who don't want to adhere to the policies of the non Muslim countries they live in, so my advice is sod off to somewhere that practice's Islam and stop spreading crap. Don't want to see it, hear about it or have any bloody interest in it.

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imo, it's not mohammeds character that we're trying to assassinate, merely the characters of his more rabid, deranged followers........of which there seem to be many!:D

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Islam is astonishingly insecure about its origins, which speaks volumes. Historians constantly delve into the origins of Christianity and it's been extensively researched and critiqued on many levels. A historian dares to question Islam and receives death threats.

Makes you wonder how many Muslims do actually believe in their religion with complete confidence and faith if they are so insecure that the merest questioning of the historical accuracy of their scripture makes them start handing out threats.

Most Christians and indeed followers of every other major religion accept that their scripture isn't, for want of a better word, gospel, but is largely parable. The sooner Islam, the youngest of the major religions it should be noted, joins the grown ups, the better.

Right now it comes across as a petulant, insecure teenager.

As far as it having run for 1400 years goes, well, so what?

Look at Joseph Smith.

Much more reliable historical information, wanted fraudster, people adhere to his religion and it's growing pretty rapidly.

Or even more recent L Ron Hubbard. Founds a religion basically for a bet, it's worldwide, influential, and growing.

Some people appear willing to believe any old bollocks. Islam happened to have had a millennium and a bit head start and is more aggressively expansionist.

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Well, there was always the Inquisition. What happened to those who didn't believe (In Christianity that time)? Death, or life imprisonment. Funny, how that happened around 12-1400 years after Christianity started too.

Islam appears to be going through a similar phase that Christianity did. Does it make it any more bad? Probably not, does it show that religions are more similar to each other than they would ever care to admit and thus should bloody well get along and stop trying to kill each other for not being part of theirs? Probably.

Religion should be able to stand up to scrutiny, and yes, ridicule. If Either causes uproar, then there's some major insecurity in there. As someone who enjoys the film "The Life of Brian" and know that was either threatened with, or banned in places, I know that even now Christianity isn't above getting arsey about satire too.

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What it shows is, feudal, medieval societies use religion as a tool to ensure conformity and subservience. What it doesn't show is whether any particular religion is a reflection of absolute truth, or a useful philosophy of life, or anything of that kind.

In fact in Europe, it was the excesses of the political elites and their fondness for using Christianity as a means of control that helped spark the Reformation, which consisted of people pointing out that the Bible didn't support the things that were being done by both Church and State.

The Reformation and the rise of Protestantism has of course given people further excuses to kill each other. Nevertheless they do so in spite of what is written in the book they claim to live by, not because of it.

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What does the great Mohammed say about the innocent people who're being murdered in his name? What does he say about those Muslims (the vast majority) who don't go around murdering those who don't share their faith? Does he feel they're worse than the rest or better?

Not that I'm expecting any sort of cogent answer from the OP...

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But you may be 'lucky' and get some very deluded PM's like I did :)

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Are you enlightened or converted as a result? :D

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Luckily I managed to resist being converted but they were certainly enlightening!

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Michael H.Hart, who is Jewish non-muslim wrote a book from Adam all the way to end times.
he wrote a book.
The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart,
It is a ranking of the 100 people who, according to Hart, most influenced human history.

The first person on Hart's list is the Prophet of Islam Muhammad, and puts 3rd place Jesus
Hart decided to choose Muhammad over Jesus or Moses

Michael H. Hart put Muhammad No. 1 on his list and his Jesus Christ (pbuh) No. 3. Why?
William McNeill considers Muhammad as worthy of honour in his list of the first three names of his. Why?
James Gavin puts Muhammad (pbuh) before Christ (pbuh). Why?
James Masserman adjudges Muhammad (pbuh) No. 1 and his own hero Moses (pbuh) a close second. Why?

non muslim say about Muhammad Peace be upon him.
1. "MUHUMMAD WAS THE SOUL OF KINDNESS, AND HIS INFLUENCE WAS FELT AND NEVER FORGOTTEN BY THOSE AROUND HIM." A Hindu scholar - Diwan Chand Sharma in his "The Prophets of the East," Calcutta 1935, p. 122.

2. "FOUR YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF JUSTINIAN, A.D. 569, WAS BORN AT MAKKAH, IN ARABIA THE MAN WHO, OF ALL MEN EXERCISED THE GREATEST INFLUENCE UPON THE HUMAN RACE ... MOHAMMED ..." John William Draper, M.D., LLD., in his "A History of the lntellectual Development of Europe",- London 1875.

3. "I DOUBT WHETHER ANY MAN WHOSE EXTERNAL CONDITIONS CHANGED SO MUCH EVER CHANGED HIMSELF LESS TO MEET THEM." R. V. C. Bodley in "The Messenger,"- London 1946, p.9.

4. "I HAVE STUDIED HIM - THE WONDERFUL MAN - AND IN MY OPINION FAR FROM BEING AN ANTI-CHRIST, HE MUST BE CALLED THE SAVIOUR OF HUMANITY." George Bernard Shaw, in "The Genuine Islam,- Vol. 1, No. 81936.

5. "BY A FORTUNE ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE IN HISTORY, MOHAMMED IS A THREEFOLD FOUNDER OF A NATION, OF AN EMPIRE, AND OF A RELIGION." R. Bosworth-Smith in "Mohammed and Mohammedanism".- 1946.

6. "MOHAMMED WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OF ALL RELIGIOUS PERSONALITIES." Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th Edition

Islam don't tell Muslim to kill innocent people.

which kill innocent people, are committing a major sin.
we also follow Jesus more then Christians, do. and Muslim respect Jesus and all Prophets before him.
read your gospel
in the bible Jesus fell on his face and prayed. when you see muslim doing the same thing also

Re: who is Muhammad (peace be upon him)
 

So go and worship Michael H Hart (peas be upon him).

:shrug:

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What do you think GCHQ made of them? :D

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And about Freedom of Speech

We want to know the boundaries and limits to the term "Freedom of Speech" in the UK.

When Jews are ridiculed, it's Anti-semitism. When ethnic minorities are targeted, it's racism.
When Islam is defamed, it's "Freedom of Speech?
We call on the British Government to draw the lines for us, what's acceptable, what's not?
We want a common law for ALL.
We want to detach ourselves from these never-ending Double-standards.

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You are making comments and facts on here right now!... this is called freedom of speech... if ISIL were here in control you would probably be looking up at the sky minus your body for not having their permission for talking/communicating with infidels.

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If you're going to quote someone else's words why not be decent enough to say so and post a link to the source?

If you want to live in a society in which Islam has the all protections you insist it deserves and doesn't have here why not go and live in one? Oddly, despite the UK being so very hostile apparently, you choose to remain here and complain that everything isn't quite how you'd like it. That's why some Jews are now going to Israel isn't it? They feel they're not well enough protected by the law in places like France and the UK.

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You have a common law, there are no double standards - every religion is free to be criticised. Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity and, yes, Islam. Jews are a race, racism can only be directed towards a race. Islam isn't a race, more of a political ideology blended with a religion.

If you don't like that we have no blasphemy law regarding your Prophet feel free to emmigrate somewhere there is one. 95% of the UK population don't follow Islam, and apart from some useful idiots the bulk of that 95% couldn't care less how 'offended' you are.

If your Prophet and Allah are all holy and powerful I'm sure they won't be at all bothered by the actions of cartoonists, news outlets, or whatever.

Or are they so petty minded that they take offence at the actions of a mortal whose life is over in the blink of an eye in the grand scheme and who, if scripture is to be believed, can be tormented for all eternity in the afterlife?

If they are you may want to consider exactly what you think is so great about them.

I find your views of freedom of speech offensive as you've no idea what you're talking about. Boohoo, I'm going to run off crying as someone offended me.

http://tellmamauk.org/ in case you want to report Islamophobia and racism.

For what it's worth I'm not Islamophobic, I'm moronophobic and avowedly secular. I couldn't care less what religion you are, act like a tool and I'll happily describe you as one.

Incidentally, George Bernard Shaw never wrote anything called 'The Genuine Islam' and such a book does not appear to exist. Do try to be somewhat more thorough in your research than going to the clearly unbiased website Prophet of Islam.

EDIT: Ah I see where this came from, too.

https://www.facebook.com/MissionDawa...53113153334739

Linking to this petition:

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/73584

Well I can help with this, no need for government intervention.

There are a whole bunch of existing laws dealing with exactly this, hence why racist and hate speech are illegal. Don't break the existing laws you're exercising reasonable right to freedom of speech.

Well, also clearly stated in law - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law

Indeed - that is illegal for a couple of reasons.

The definitions are quite clear and none of them protect Islam from criticism. Cry more.

EDIT: Or of course have a bunch of violent extremists enabled by millions of tacit supporters (this isn't Islamophobia either - numerous surveys have indicated that if anything my saying 'millions' is understatement) and cause media outlets to self-censor out of concern for the safety of their staff.

Who'd have thought indoctrinating believers into placing the Prophet, dead 1400 years, above the value of the closest human lives to them, let alone the lives of others, alongside considering non-believers animals only tolerated if they pay a tax for their non-belief would encourage radicalisation if the Prophet were besmirched?

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No, it is not against the law to ridicule anyone. Offensive to some? Yep, in bad taste? Almost certainly. If such things were illegal we wouldn't see much comedy on TV, like ever.

If anyone states that they hate someone because of their religion, the colour of their skin or whatever, and want people to act on that hatred. That is incitement and is wrong, illegal and should be stopped.

Personally, I have massive skepticism about the validity of all religion, and it is my right to question anyone who conforms to them, as it is their right to believe and defend their beliefs in the same way I convey my views, which is in civil discourse.

Threats of violence over words is wrong and offensive, and if the threats have came due to questioning or ridicule, it is not the ones being targeted in the wrong.

If you want protection from people thinking your religion is nonsense, you're doing it wrong. Religion should be able to stand up to that, and it's no personal insult to anyone to call religion into question. If your beliefs are strong enough, you can ignore ridicule and criticism of your faith, safe in the knowledge that you are correct. By trying to shut people down for disagreeing with you, it is you who are trying to threaten freedom of expression.

The flip side? There are countries where it is illegal to be a certain religion, is that preferable? Especially if your religion is one that is banned in preference to another? Freedom of expression, including religion comes with the flipside that people are free to disagree with one another.

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"If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."

"I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."

George Bernard Shaw quoted accurately as making the above statement in a public speech by the authors. It was published in Singapore in 1936 and is rarely available in the USA or Europe today.

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Good for you... but do you have anything else to say on any other topics without your prophet or god getting in the way.

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Indeed. Just those who 'wage war' on Allah and 'cause corruption'.

Which could easily be taken to mean that I, for my comments on this forum, should be killed / crucified / amputated / exiled.

Those who are innocent, remain neutral, but don't believe are merely subjugated and taxed.



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http://heavenslights.blogspot.co.uk/...ine-islam.html

Let me help you out here.

George Bernard Shaw, 1933, in a letter to the Rev. Ensor Walters:

http://books.google.co.uk/books/abou...AJ&redir_esc=y

Further: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226676192844

Next propaganda piece, please.

You appear to be struggling to make an independent point, are parroting other people's views without any kind of skepticism or criticism and, indeed, parroting their words verbatim.

I can't think why you'd be in the habit of doing that.

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I'm sure you welcome the freedom you have to post that (and everything else you submit) here but what if another religious group took grave offence at it and demanded you be beheaded for blaspheming their God? Would that be OK by you or would your right to free speech trump their right to be mortally offended by it?

Any chance of a straight answer?

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It's a special bargain Mr Truthspeaker.

Not only have I corrected you on the misattribution of quotes to GB-S, I will even give you what is apparently the original transcript.

You're welcome.

Very interesting what a little general research rather than only looking for things which concur with one's own pre-conceived, or as I suspect may be the case here, pre-taught, notions can show.

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are you on drugs

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What he's on is way more mind altering than drugs.

BTW For Muslims psychoactive drugs are a massive no-no so I presume the chap is quite sober :)

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then he needs his head looking at

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Really, there are 2.8 million Islam followers in the UK out of a population of 64 million, explain how that would work then?

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https://idlethink.wordpress.com/2008...iews-of-islam/

Can explain this.

The actual quote was:

However there is no evidence that it can be attributed to George Bernard-Shaw.

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Actually, what he said in 1908 was Seemed to have missed the boat on that one....;)

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who is Muhammad

Muslims tend to focus solely on the good characteristics of their prophet, and to completely ignore less admirable qualities. We have already seen that Muhammad began robbing caravans after leaving Mecca. As a result,greed soon became one of the primary factors in people’s rapid conversion to Islam. Indeed, Muhammad deliberately used the spoils of war to lure people to Islam. When he was criticized for the way he distributed his newfound wealth, he replied, “Are you disturbed in mind because of the good things of this life by which I win over a people that they may become Muslims while I entrust you to your Islam?”iv

Although Muhammad patiently endured persecution in Mecca, his attitude quickly changed when his numbers grew in Medina. Soon he would tolerate no criticism whatsoever. According to our earliest biographical source, a man named Abu Afak—who was more than a hundred years old—wrote a poem criticizing people for converting to Islam. Muhammad demanded he be killed, and Abu Afak was murdered in his sleep. When a woman named Asma heard that Muslims had killed such an elderly man, she wrote a poem calling for people to take a stand against Islam.Ibn Ishaq relates what happened next:

When the apostle heard what she had said he said, “Who will rid me of Marwan’s daughter?” Umayr bin Adiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house and killed her. In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and he said, “You have helped God and His apostle, O Umayr!” When he asked if he would have to bear any evil consequences the apostle said, “Two goats won’t butt their heads about her,” so Umayr went back to his people.v

Muhammad’s violence was directed towards groups as well. Muhammad once said to his followers, “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims.”viThe Jews of Qurayza resisted Muhammad and attempted to form an alliance against him. When the alliance faltered, Muhammad acted quickly. His armies surrounded them and “besieged them for twenty-five nights until they were sore pressed and God cast terror into their hearts.”

Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina. . . . Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. . . . There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900.vii

Every male who had reached puberty was killed. Muhammad divided the women, children, and property among his men (taking a fifth of the spoils for himself).



But things get worse.As the Muslim armies raided town after town, they captured many women, who would often be sold or traded. Yet, since the Muslim men were a long way from their wives, they needed wisdom from Allah to guide them in their treatment of their female captives. It wasn’t long before Muhammad received a revelation allowing the soldiers to sleep with the women:

Allah’s Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: “And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)” (i.e. they were lawful for them when their ‘Idda period came to an end).viii

This verse of the Qur’an (4:24), along with others (23:1-6; 33:50; 70:22-30), granted Muslims the right to have sex with their female captives and slave girls, even those who were still married or who were going to be sold or traded.

Perhaps most disturbing of all is the fact that Muslims could have sex with girls who hadn’t even reached puberty. The opening verses of Chapter 65 of the Qur’an present Islamic rules for divorce. According to 65:4, if a Muslim divorces a girl who hasn’t yet reached puberty, he must wait three months to make sure she isn’t pregnant.

Muhammad himself had sex with a prepubescent girl. His courtship of Aisha began when she was only six years old.ix Muhammad had a dream about her, which led him to believe that God wanted him to marry the young girl.x Fortunately, Muhammad waited three years before having sex with her; nevertheless, Muslim sources report that Aisha still hadn’t reached puberty.xi Since Muhammad is the moral exemplar in Islam, his actions are still affecting young girls today.

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It is clear. Muslim men can engage in sex with prepubescent children.

Is this because the original pedo started it and said so?

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Well if he beheads you on the internet you will then have your answer :)

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Well we're used to getting gibberish, ill-informed diatribes and cut/pasted quotes from the OP but few, if any, coherent answers. Challenging his views, however, rationally doesn't educate him it only motivates him to claim more personal victimisation and intolerance towards Islam and I'm not going to gift him that opportunity. He's either a troll or merely incapable of rational debate but, in either event, he's the newest addition to my ignore list. If everyone does likewise not only will his distasteful nonsense not see the light of day here, he'll inevitably scuttle off somewhere else sooner or later. Win win I'd say.

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So do some Catholic priests and some heterosexual British men - doesn't make it right, or widespread amongst those communities, though.....

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Over my dead body, because you will take that and change it to your idea about law. The Laws in this country are our laws not your laws. if you don't like our laws then go to a country where there laws suit your way of life.

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I was on about their religion says they can.

so my point is. if their religion says it's ok then there must be a fair few out of all those billions that do.

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:clap:

Seems its ok for SOME religious people to be pedo's according to there definition of there story books :mad:

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doesn't it


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdal...afficking_gang


Name Sentence Conviction
Kabeer Hassan 9 years Rape, Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children
Abdul Aziz 9 years Trafficking for sexual exploitation, Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children
Abdul Rauf 6 years Trafficking for sexual exploitation, Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children
Adil Khan 8 years Trafficking for sexual exploitation, Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children
Mohammed Sajid 12 years Rape, Sexual activity with a girl under 16, Trafficking for sexual exploitation, Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children
Mohammed Amin 5 years Sexual assault, Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children
Hamid Safi 4 years Trafficking for sexual exploitation, Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children
Abdul Qayyum 5 years Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children
Shabir Ahmed[18] 19 years Rape, Aiding and abetting a rape, Sexual assault, Trafficking for sexual exploitation, Conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children

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Truthspeaker:

We - just - don't - care.

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And just to make my point again OVER MY DEAD BODY

People like you are the problem simple as that.

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Here is some of Mo's followers,

Why don't you toddle off over there and Join in the fun.

https://news.vice.com/article/grueso...rce=vicenewsfb

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My personal response to the thread title question is.....and I have speant all day thinking about it* is.....

I really don't care who he is or was. Its like asking who is Jesus or who is the Pope.





*=Not really

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/01/8.jpg

All hail the Wibble

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Or Who Framed Roger Rabbit ?


,

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I dont know how true this is and it could just be a load of rubbish but if true this is what they are doing in the name of this Muhammad fella

http://nypost.com/2015/01/19/isis-ex...tching-soccer/

Animals that is all they are.

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Is that the Spanish inquisition that found the vast majority of accused innocent and sentenced most of the remainder to suspended sentences and in doing so saved tens of thousands of people from secular courts that burnt people for heresy. I saw a recent article on the inquisition that said it was the most lenient and best run court in Europe at the time, that's not to say they were pussy cats because they clearly weren't but they were functioning in different times.

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It was the judge, but he was secretly a toon.

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There are a few words I'd use to describe someone who wandered about caves and claimed that he was speaking to God but prophet isn't one of them.

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you run towards the world (worldly life) you can never catch, and you run away from death you can never escape.
If person get so 1 mountain full of gold, but still never be satisfied he will want more and more.

if you don't care who Prophet (sallam) is. why you read my comments for?
am not forcing anyone to read my comments its your choice to read or ignore.

and if Islam was that BAD, but then i wounder why US, UK and Europe are the fastest growing religion in the world..

"If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

George Bernard Shaw was right. maybe you won't see it and i won't see it. but your great grand son or grand daughters will see it.

maybe you should ask Ice Cube, Akon, Mike Tyson, why he converted to Islam

also Cassius Marcellus Clay
Dr. Oz, Dave Chappelle, Janet Jackson, Ellen Burstyn, T-Pain, Shaquille O’Neal, Malcolm X

Liam Neeson considers converting to Islam following trip to Istanbul. ask him why?

Re: who is Muhammad (peace be upon him)
 

Shut up you tit!

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Yes I'll get on to the convicted rapist mike Tyson, the Alzheimer riddled clay, the barmy Janet Jackson, the wizard of Oz and the dead Malcolm x forthwith :dozey:

I find your language interesting though, why can't you be happy with your personal faith instead of constantly banging on about dominating and ruling over others, says a lot about your mindset imo

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OMG you are a complete Richard.

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Take over England if you like, just keep it out of Wales.

Lol, funniest comment in this thread :)

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"If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

if you really think a bunch of sandal wearing soap dodgers with a backward barbaric lifestyle like islam will take over England prepare for heavy casualties .

might i also add that your loony rantings have turned quite a lot of people against islam those who where once tolerant of its backward teachings now hate it more than marmite
give my regards to ally snackbar when you get to Devon

I think truthspeaker (may his name be forever forgotten) is just a troll. Some short arsed, balding, fat white bloke sitting in front of his monitor chowing down on a side of hog. No family, no life, no nothing, trying to get a rise out of people. Because like most trolls he is socially inept.

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This man reminds me of a certain AF and the sooner the mods do something the better.

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I said it before I will say it again. No one is forcing you to read my comments just ignore me. No one is forcing you to reply to me.

If Islam is that bad then I wonder why Hollywood film actors want to convert to Islam?
Liam Neeson considers converting to Islam following trip to Istanbul. ask him why?

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as I've said before I like my extremists out in the open so people can see what they are truly like.

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Go forth in short jerky movements

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Liam Neeson why is he thinking of converting to Islam answer this if your truthful.
Islam is not bad if it was bad then people like Liam Neeson will never think of converting to Islam.

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If he was that enthralled with it why didn't he do it?

https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/liam-nee...602520951.html

I suspect it was a good thing to say considering it was in relation to a film he'd just made.

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You still here :mad:

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Liam Neeson says whatever he needs to in order to promote a film shot in a country with a large muslim population would be more accurate.

As for all your other cut and paste nonsense about it being the fastest growing religion I suppose that shows what blind adherence and cult like indoctrination will do for you. I've always been suspicious of why so many people with mental illness currently favour islam as a way forward.

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Your going stright to hell for that one :LOL:

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Islam is the fastest growing religion because:

1. It is the State religion in many of the parts of the developing world where the population is growing fastest and,
2. If you're born into a Muslim family, you are automatically a Muslim.

If England ever becomes Muslim, it will be all to do with demographics and nothing to do with faith.

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Personally I don't think Mr Khan is a follower of Islam at all.

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It's a ploy so he infiltrate those Isis ******s and then kill jihadi john it have I been watching too many of his films

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People like Liam Neeson?

No disrespect to the guy, but he's no different than anyone else. He just happens to do a job that means more people know his name.

Seriously, if the only means Islam has to flourish (apart from demographics) is celebrity endorsement, it's dead in the water.

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The brain is a very complex piece of equipment. every function you do is down to your brain.
when the brain is a bit poorly you malfunction. you suddenly convert to Islam.

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Well despite his abnoxious, rude or just plain silly outpourings he's yet to seriously violate T&C unlike a certain Mr Fry. So I think you're going to be "entertained" for quite a while longer.


Maybe we'll get to see what >2000 negative points earn: Skull and crossbones?

As for Muhammad I don't see him as any different to the hundreds of others throughout history that thought they were a gods messenger when it was really the insanity causing voices in their heads.

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The way I see it is if everyone just stopped reading his postings and commenting on them then he would be talking to himself.

So is everyone going to stop posting in this thread? ;)

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No.

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Sorry but no, if we do not respond to his bull excreta then he has won

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He would only have the voices in his head to talk to so we have to help him. ;)

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He can try one of my tablets :)

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Won what exactly? If he's speaking nonsense to an empty room how can he have won anything?

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He might be playing for points.
he'll win points.
we might as well give him the car.

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I think its important that you actually hear what these crack pots have to say, ignoring them isn't going to make them go away.

---------- Post added at 11:39 ---------- Previous post was at 11:36 ----------

"innocence" seems a fluid area in Islam

some of the latest crackpot assertions from "muslim clerics" are

building snowmen

watching football

and drawing satirical cartoons

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A number of members posting in this thread need to calm down and think before replying.

There are several replies here that were very close to getting warnings.

If you disagree with something or someone then do so in a proper manner.
I will not have members throwing insults about, whatever the reason. If it bothers you, put him on ignore, or move to another thread.

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Read this bit carefully. Very carefully.

We - just - don't - care.

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Am I allowed to care?

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Don't encourage him.

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Not being funny but he does not need encouragement, just a bunch of people he can spout is indoctrination to. ;)

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i doubt he's gained any sympathy on this forum

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Liam Neeson converting to islam seems as likely as the Pope allowing homosexual priests to marry and adopt children.

Cheers

Grim

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he does have a very particular set of skills though...........