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zee123 14-01-2015 21:22

Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
After waiting years for my area to be upgraded and to be able to get broadband I've been told I can't get broadband unless I ditch my current phone package!

I'm beside myself with anger, as I was told my current package isn't offered anymore and therefore isn't compatible with the new bundles. In order to get broadband added to my account I need to have a new bundle on my account. I argued that broadband wasn't dependent on my phone line and the advisor said if he could he would love to sell me broadband but if I wanted to keep my current call plan I wouldn't be able to have broadband too. Why are Virgin Media punishing me for being a long and loyal customer.

It is worth writing in to customer services?

Stephen 14-01-2015 21:32

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
They aren't punishing you.

You have a very old and outdated product that is no longer offered.

Broadband and phone packages are cheaper than the two services individually.

What is your current call plan anyway? If its that old surely the newer ones would be better value?

zee123 14-01-2015 22:56

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
I'm on Talk Anywhere call plan, and was promised that as log as I stayed with VM
I could keep this call plan. I've waited 15 years for our area to
become digital.
I'm happy with my call plan, can't I just add broadband?

alanbjames 14-01-2015 23:09

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
if u take out broadband the phone package they would offer u would be very similar to what u already have.

I dont see what the problem is?

Stephen 14-01-2015 23:16

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Exactly, they have a current bundle which is very similar.

XL Phone offers unlimited UK calls.

http://store.virginmedia.com/discove...alk-plans.html

XXL offers that in addition to free 0845 and UK mobile calls among other things.

BenMcr 14-01-2015 23:22

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Talk Anywhere worked more like a mobile plan - you were given a set number of minutes to use and what was covered was fairly large including international destinations. So Talk Unlimited Extra is the closest package, but it all depends what calls are made as to whether it would be suitable.

Unfortunately there is no way around the fact that none of the current offers allow it to be kept.

zee123 14-01-2015 23:51

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
I'm not after a current offer, I only wanted to add fibre optic broadband. I'm happy with my talk anywhere package and have no intention of changing to another package.
With fibre optic broadband I dont even need a phone line so why cant I get superfast Fibre optic broadband without changing my phone tariff.

BenMcr 15-01-2015 00:13

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Virgin Media sell services as a bundle when you have more than one service. It's up to them how they do it, now you're aware of the situation it's now your choice as to what to do.

Stephen 15-01-2015 00:13

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
It's to do with the pricing and ways the services are bundled.

You have a really old phone package that is no longer offered so when adding BB to your account the phone package can't stay the same.

zee123 15-01-2015 00:19

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Surely a company like VM can find a way around this, I'm shocked that this is the case . Does anyone know if VM do broadband only without a phone line

Stephen 15-01-2015 00:23

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
You can get broadband only yes.

However the two bundled together is usually cheaper.

Why are you so set on keeping such an old phone package?

BenMcr 15-01-2015 00:27

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zee123 (Post 35752734)
Surely a company like VM can find a way around this, I'm shocked that this is the case . Does anyone know if VM do broadband only without a phone line

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35752737)
You can get broadband only yes.

Although you can get broadband on it's own at a set price - you can't add that service to an existing telephone account, as the pricing rules don't allow it.

Skie 15-01-2015 00:58

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
What about 2 accounts in the same house? 1 old telephone, 1 new bb.

Betting their systems don't support it :p

qasdfdsaq 15-01-2015 02:03

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35752743)
What about 2 accounts in the same house? 1 old telephone, 1 new bb.

Betting their systems don't support it :p

They do but it's complicated.

Ignitionnet 15-01-2015 10:35

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
This is perfectly normal. When services are no longer offered they become 'grandfathered'. You've no more chance of being able to carry a grandfathered phone service through when adding new services than you do being able to keep 2Mb broadband through an old set top box and trying to add TiVo.

DJSADERS 16-01-2015 16:38

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Why not just do it as a duplicated account... so have 2 accounts at the same property, i've seen it done loads at student houses where there are many different accounts at one address, this way the telco stays on one account and the bb on the other?

Stephen 16-01-2015 21:27

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
It may be done for student account, but its not normal for it to be done for normal customer accounts.

BenMcr 16-01-2015 22:02

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35753162)
It may be done for student account, but its not normal for it to be done for normal customer accounts.

There is nothing stopping anyone applying for a secondary account at an address, however it's subject to certain criteria and approval from Virgin Media i.e. there is no guarantee it would happen.

Of course the other thing to point out here, is there is also no guarantee that Talk Anywhere will always be on the phone account. As long as Virgin Media gave the appropriate notice as per the T&Cs it could be completely withdrawn.

zee123 18-01-2015 02:40

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DJSADERS (Post 35753105)
Why not just do it as a duplicated account... so have 2 accounts at the same property, i've seen it done loads at student houses where there are many different accounts at one address, this way the telco stays on one account and the bb on the other?

That would be helpful who would I need to offer myself to get this

yorkshireborn 18-01-2015 08:34

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
personally I don't see the problem here the guy has a old virgin call package and wants broadband unless he is wanting them as a package then yes I can see virgins reason but he is just wanting broadband, I can't see the problem.
its like having a classic 1920s car and being told you cant have another car till you trade or old car for a new one.
take it further ask for someone upstairs to sortout not the call centre person or manager.

BenMcr 18-01-2015 10:43

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zee123 (Post 35753333)
That would be helpful who would I need to offer myself to get this

You would need to speak to the Telesales team - as they would have to put in a request for a second account at the address. But as I said, there is no guarantee of it being approved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35753337)
personally I don't see the problem here the guy has a old virgin call package and wants broadband unless he is wanting them as a package then yes I can see virgins reason but he is just wanting broadband, I can't see the problem.
its like having a classic 1920s car and being told you cant have another car till you trade or old car for a new one.

It's not like that at all.

Quote:

take it further ask for someone upstairs to sortout not the call centre person or manager.
The only way that would be 'sorted out' by anyone within the company would be as discussed above - a separate account with broadband charged at the full standalone price.

rhyds 18-01-2015 11:45

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35753337)
its like having a classic 1920s car and being told you cant have another car till you trade or old car for a new one.


No, its like you taking a 1920s car to a garage and asking them to fit parking sensors, electric windows, central locking, ABS brakes and a stereo radio cassette.

qasdfdsaq 18-01-2015 16:58

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rhyds (Post 35753348)
No, its like you taking a 1920s car to a garage and asking them to fit parking sensors, electric windows, central locking, ABS brakes and a stereo radio cassette.

I'd do it.

Seriously though, in the past VM have allowed you to just add and remove anything to anything. There's no benefit to the new 'system',.

yorkshireborn 18-01-2015 18:55

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35753341)
It's not like that at all.

The only way that would be 'sorted out' by anyone within the company would be as discussed above - a separate account with broadband charged at the full standalone price.

that's what he wants isn't it so again wots the problem.

jb66 18-01-2015 20:15

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35753433)
that's what he wants isn't it so again wots the problem.

THe problem is he would be paying more than the equivalent updated bundle by doing that

dragon 18-01-2015 22:06

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35753462)
THe problem is he would be paying more than the equivalent updated bundle by doing that

That would ultimately depend on which calls the OP makes using the talk anywhere as you may find they make a lot of calls to a number that IS included in their current plan but not the new ones.

qasdfdsaq 18-01-2015 23:05

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35753462)
THe problem is he would be paying more than the equivalent updated bundle by doing that

Assuming there is an equivalent bundle.

zee123 19-01-2015 01:53

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35753337)
personally I don't see the problem here the guy has a old virgin call package and wants broadband unless he is wanting them as a package then yes I can see virgins reason but he is just wanting broadband, I can't see the problem.
its like having a classic 1920s car and being told you cant have another car till you trade or old car for a new one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35753389)
I'd do it.

Seriously though, in the past VM have allowed you to just add and remove anything to anything. There's no benefit to the new 'system',.

My point exactly I was starting to think I'm asking for the stars and moon.

I use Talk Anywhere to make internationals calls to a few countries and can't be bothered with calling cards or paying another company for credit
I've been with VM since before they were NTL and have had to have a dormant BT line for broadband.

BenMcr 19-01-2015 11:23

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35753389)
Seriously though, in the past VM have allowed you to just add and remove anything to anything. There's no benefit to the new 'system',.

There have always been exclusions.

For instance Talk Anywhere has never been available with the top VIP bundle, even going right back to the original one from 2007.

There are also other Talk Plans that have been retired such as Talk Weekends Local, Talk Off Peak etc, which you'd also have to lose to move to a current bundle.

Ignitionnet 19-01-2015 13:55

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35753389)
I'd do it.

Seriously though, in the past VM have allowed you to just add and remove anything to anything. There's no benefit to the new 'system',.

There is for VM. No-one likes having obsolete products in their billing system.

qasdfdsaq 19-01-2015 14:11

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35753595)
There is for VM. No-one likes having obsolete products in their billing system.

In that sense the new packages are counter-productive...

There's always going to be a small minority unwilling to move of their own accord so unless they go round forcefully moving those people onto new products they're just increasing the number of obsolete products that they have to keep in their billing system.

---------- Post added at 13:11 ---------- Previous post was at 13:10 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35753567)
There have always been exclusions.

For instance Talk Anywhere has never been available with the top VIP bundle, even going right back to the original one from 2007.

That's just saying 'It's not a drawback because we've been doing it since 2007'...

BenMcr 19-01-2015 14:51

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35753603)
In that sense the new packages are counter-productive...

There's always going to be a small minority unwilling to move of their own accord so unless they go round forcefully moving those people onto new products they're just increasing the number of obsolete products that they have to keep in their billing system.

All depends if the costs to change those remaining on a package outweigh the benefit of forcing everyone off it. Generally it's done by momentum as in this case i.e. you can keep the package until you want to change something.

I'd also point out we're 32 posts into a discussion about it for one person. Now times that sort of 'why' questioning by however many customers may be on retired service of whatever description and you'd send the call centres into meltdown.
Quote:

That's just saying 'It's not a drawback because we've been doing it since 2007'...
It was done before that, but as we are talking about Talk Anywhere for an ex-ntl customer, it wasn't available to much before the change to Virgin Media, so it was most relevant.

qasdfdsaq 19-01-2015 19:40

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35753624)
All depends if the costs to change those remaining on a package outweigh the benefit of forcing everyone off it. Generally it's done by momentum as in this case i.e. you can keep the package until you want to change something.

It's still not going to allow you to remove the obsolete product from the billing system until all customers are off it. Even if your 'momentum' convinces 99.9% of customers to move off, there'll still be some left who either don't know or don't care what package their on - or even don't know they have a VM service or who's paying their bill.

BenMcr 19-01-2015 23:35

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35753683)
It's still not going to allow you to remove the obsolete product from the billing system until all customers are off it. Even if your 'momentum' convinces 99.9% of customers to move off, there'll still be some left who either don't know or don't care what package their on - or even don't know they have a VM service or who's paying their bill.

Correct. Virgin Media have already been through that with analogue TV.

But the momentum of prior package change rules will mean that any forced change will impact the minimum number of customers it possibly can.

qasdfdsaq 19-01-2015 23:49

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35753731)
But the momentum of prior package change rules will mean that any forced change will impact the minimum number of customers it possibly can.

Ah. Good point. Hadn't thought of it that way.

zee123 22-01-2015 00:12

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
I'm about to sign up to TalkTalk Fibre, tried calling Customer Services again but after being cut off twice the last person pretty much said there wasn't much point in helping me barbecue they wouldn't get commission.

jb66 22-01-2015 00:41

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
http://www.showpiecedesign.co.uk/fil...ec50180815.jpg

qasdfdsaq 22-01-2015 02:15

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
WTF

zee123 23-01-2015 01:11

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
because not Barbeque DAMN Auto-Correct Lols

zee123 01-02-2015 17:04

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Just to update the thread and stop it from dying lols I signed up with TalkTalk but after failing to find anyone who had a good word to say about them I decided to cancel my order. I am now about to sign up with Plus Net Fibre

pip08456 01-02-2015 23:01

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zee123 (Post 35756586)
Just to update the thread and stop it from dying lols I signed up with TalkTalk but after failing to find anyone who had a good word to say about them I decided to cancel my order. I am now about to sign up with Plus Net Fibre

At least with Plus Net you'll have UK support if needed.

zee123 02-02-2015 01:25

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
DOnt VM have UK Support?

Kushan 02-02-2015 02:07

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
On occasion.

General Maximus 02-02-2015 09:18

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
you have a wirus sir

qasdfdsaq 02-02-2015 12:48

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
omigod isitebola? amigonnadie?

Milambar 02-02-2015 13:43

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
No, and yes. Everyone dies eventually :P

Kushan 02-02-2015 16:55

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Yis.

horseman 02-02-2015 17:42

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milambar (Post 35756792)
No, and yes. Everyone dies eventually :P

albeit statistically more often while awaiting a VM Cat C "utilisation" fix! :dunce:

craigj2k12 05-02-2015 05:33

Re: Just been told Can't Add Broadband to my phone Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horseman (Post 35756847)
albeit statistically more often while awaiting a VM Cat C "utilisation" fix! :dunce:

haha! :D


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