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Arthurgray50@blu 06-12-2014 20:42

Mums Stage Breastfeeding Protest At Claridge's
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1387098/mu...t-at-claridges

Yes, l am not a woman, but l totally applaud these women for staging this protest.

Claridges, and other top shops, come out with all this crap about ' supporting breast feeding' But, all they are worried about is people walking in and seeing a woman, what they do naturally feeding there. And walking out again.

Well done ladies

peanut 06-12-2014 20:49

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I find it pitiful.

Pierre 06-12-2014 20:51

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The mammary Mafia.

Chris 06-12-2014 21:13

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What's the matter, gents? Do we not like breasts any more? Or do we just not like being reminded they have purposes other than our ... er ... titillation? :)

nomadking 06-12-2014 21:16

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If men even looked vaguely in their direction they would be accused(if only in people's minds) of being perverts. Why should ANYBODY be made to feel awkward.

jb66 06-12-2014 21:36

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I have been out and a woman whipped them out to feed a baby while I was talking to her, I did feel awkward as I've spent my whole life trying not to look but when there is a baby attached its hard not to

alanbjames 06-12-2014 21:42

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My friend was breast feeding her baby in her car sat outside a cafe and the cafe owner called the police to say it was indecent exposure.

This was about 3 years ago in Swansea and the worst argument against breast feeding i have heard was "Its unnatural"

Since its been going on for millions of years and humans are not the only species on earth to do this its one of the most natural things between mother and off spring.

Maggy 06-12-2014 22:41

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35745413)
What's the matter, gents? Do we not like breasts any more? Or do we just not like being reminded they have purposes other than our ... er ... titillation? :)

Possibly they were bottle fed..;)

TheDaddy 06-12-2014 23:43

Re: Mums Stage Breastfeeding Protest At Claridge's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35745406)
http://news.sky.com/story/1387098/mu...t-at-claridges

Yes, l am not a woman, but l totally applaud these women for staging this protest.

Claridges, and other top shops, come out with all this crap about ' supporting breast feeding' But, all they are worried about is people walking in and seeing a woman, what they do naturally feeding there. And walking out again.

Well done ladies

Yes well done for being in their words totally ignored, still I'm sure the babies enjoyed being fed in the bracing weather sat on the floor in the street just so their mothers could make a point about something which was possibly set up in the first place.

Russ 07-12-2014 04:50

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They were talking about this on the Jeremy Vine show the other day and made an interesting point that for those who are 'outraged' at the idea of a woman breastfeeding in public, most of the time they've never actually witnessed it happening and some were under the impression it involved the mother sitting there doing it while topless. One elderly male caller was taken aback at the reality of it not being that way, he paused for a few moments before asking "How else do they do it then?" :D

If the OH wants to naturally-feed my 5 month old son in public then she's going to do so and I feel sorry for anyone making a fuss about it, she's pretty tenacious :D but at the same time she's not going to be deliberate about it just to cause a stir. If she can be discreet then she will do so (after all it's about feeding the baby, not 'how much can we deliberately annoy people') however her priority is our son and not the avoidance of 'offence'.

Chris 07-12-2014 08:00

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35745416)
I have been out and a woman whipped them out to feed a baby while I was talking to her, I did feel awkward as I've spent my whole life trying not to look but when there is a baby attached its hard not to

In my experience, breastfeeding mothers have a pretty good idea how much they're going to expose, and for how long (and that's generally not much, and not long).

If she was comfortable feeding her baby while face to face with you, then she obviously wasn't worried about the possibility of you catching a five-second flash. After that, had you glanced downwards, all you would have seen would have been the back of a baby's head.

Maggy 07-12-2014 08:34

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I was in a high street cafe last week where a young woman sat at a table and discreetly breastfed her son.The staff(all Italian men),the other customers(men and women) didn't even notice..Or rather didn't care...That is what passes for the norm here and should be so anywhere in the country..I also wonder how many 'people' here have even noticed a breastfeeding woman going about her own business.

For those so easily offended on this forum may I remind them of the numerous remarks that have been passed about the easily offended on behalf of others brigade.Why does it bother a group of people who aren't even present as to why a group of women should assert their legal and human rights?Why the grumpiness dear male members?

peanut 07-12-2014 09:17

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Whilst I'm not offended by anyone that wants to breast feed, I do believe in being a bit discreet about it.

So a woman decides to do it in Claridges restaurant, obviously not a cheap place to eat, I would expect a certain level of standard from a place like that. So this woman did not get told not to do it, but to be more discreet. I find that a fair response from the restaurant. But what winds me up is this woman took selfies before (looking all smiley and smug), then another covered up. All bit ostentatious if you ask me.

But this woman had to report her abuse of her liberties, which again is just all a bit pathetic. Other say she could have gone to the loo to do it, why not just in the lobby and not the restaurant?

The other bit where other women stage a protest is just taking the biscuit over some non story of someone who didn't like being told what to do (albeit in a place like that it must have been very politely), for all we know she could have been looking to make some statement on purpose just for this attention (hence the selfies).

It's not the act that's the problem, but the response that is pathetic.

Hugh 07-12-2014 09:41

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Saw this on FB, suggesting a sign for cafe/restaurant owners - re this radio discussion.

Hugh 07-12-2014 09:43

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35745455)
Whilst I'm not offended by anyone that wants to breast feed, I do believe in being a bit discreet about it.

So a woman decides to do it in Claridges restaurant, obviously not a cheap place to eat, I would expect a certain level of standard from a place like that. So this woman did not get told not to do it, but to be more discreet. I find that a fair response from the restaurant. But what winds me up is this woman took selfies before (looking all smiley and smug), then another covered up. All bit ostentatious if you ask me.

But this woman had to report her abuse of her liberties, which again is just all a bit pathetic. Other say she could have gone to the loo to do it, why not just in the lobby and not the restaurant?

The other bit where other women stage a protest is just taking the biscuit over some non story of someone who didn't like being told what to do (albeit in a place like that it must have been very politely), for all we know she could have been looking to make some statement on purpose just for this attention (hence the selfies).

It's not the act that's the problem, but the response that is pathetic.

If you saw the picture without the napkin, you would have seen she was being discreet - surely putting the napkin over her baby attracted more attention; her pictures weren't before and after pictures, they were with and without a napkin, trying to show which was more "discreet", and which was likely to attract attention.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/12/41.jpg

You are right - some of the responses are pathetic.....

joglynne 07-12-2014 09:51

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Due to severe food alergies I breast fed our son until he was very nerly two years old and never had a problem when feeding him in pulic. I would breast feed him where ever I was but did so discreetly, anyone looking on would have been hard pressed to see anything other than me apparently cuddling my child.

I find it very saddening that such a natural act has been tainted by some peoples inability to seperate their sexual reactions and unrestrained fantasys from the reality of a breast being used for the purpose it evolved for in the first place.

To ask a woman was is discreetly breast feeding to cover up with what amounts to a flag proclaiming " look at me I'm breast feeding and ashamed" is the height of crassness in my opinion and deserves all the protests and publicity it has garnered.

denphone 07-12-2014 10:17

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Sadly some people in this country are still stuck in the dark ages with their attitudes even though its 2014.

peanut 07-12-2014 10:24

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Personally I believe all babies should be banned from restaurants (evening), I am not talking about a wetherspoons etc in the afternoon.

Gary L 07-12-2014 13:54

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The argument could be that women do a lot of things to do with being a woman. but they don't do those in public.

Hugh 07-12-2014 15:07

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It could be, but that would be a very weak argument put forward as justification for a faux pas by the hotel....

Ignitionnet 07-12-2014 16:51

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I see the argument that it's private property and the hotel should have the decision about what can and can't be done on their property.

That they are idiots, however, is beyond argument.

Chris 07-12-2014 17:15

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35745509)
I see the argument that it's private property and the hotel should have the decision about what can and can't be done on their property.

Such as putting up signs saying "no blacks or Irish" perhaps? Or refusing to provide a disabled toilet due to the additional expense? Or refusing to host wedding receptions for same sex couples?

The list of ways in which the state dictates what goes on within a private establishment, when that establishment is selling services to the public, is a very long one indeed.

Ramrod 07-12-2014 17:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35745460)
Due to severe food alergies I breast fed our son until he was very nerly two years old and never had a problem when feeding him in pulic. I would breast feed him where ever I was but did so discreetly, anyone looking on would have been hard pressed to see anything other than me apparently cuddling my child.

I find it very saddening that such a natural act has been tainted by some peoples inability to seperate their sexual reactions and unrestrained fantasys from the reality of a breast being used for the purpose it evolved for in the first place.

To ask a woman was is discreetly breast feeding to cover up with what amounts to a flag proclaiming " look at me I'm breast feeding and ashamed" is the height of crassness in my opinion and deserves all the protests and publicity it has garnered.

:clap:

Ignitionnet 07-12-2014 18:35

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35745514)
Such as putting up signs saying "no blacks or Irish" perhaps? Or refusing to provide a disabled toilet due to the additional expense? Or refusing to host wedding receptions for same sex couples?

The list of ways in which the state dictates what goes on within a private establishment, when that establishment is selling services to the public, is a very long one indeed.

I said I saw it, not that I agreed with it.

TheDaddy 07-12-2014 18:52

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35745457)
If you saw the picture without the napkin, you would have seen she was being discreet - surely putting the napkin over her baby attracted more attention; her pictures weren't before and after pictures, they were with and without a napkin, trying to show which was more "discreet", and which was likely to attract attention.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/12/41.jpg

You are right - some of the responses are pathetic.....

Clearly they weren't before or after, she was in tears and very upset apparently, not emotional enough to reenact it over and.over again though or bang on about it on what ever show will have her. The whole thing reeks of set up to me. She's lucky they let her in anyway, if I was paying £75+ for a slice of cake and a triangular shaped sandwich I wouldn't be very happy to listen to a baby grizzle all the way through it, perhaps a lower age limit barring none resident children will be their solution, that's if they have taken any notice at all.

Taf 07-12-2014 19:15

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When I was a lad..... it was common practice for women to drape a shawl over the area whilst breastfeeding in public. Mind you it was also common practice for all women to keep their breasts covered.

Hugh 07-12-2014 20:01

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35745524)
Clearly they weren't before or after, she was in tears and very upset apparently, not emotional enough to reenact it over and.over again though or bang on about it on what ever show will have her. The whole thing reeks of set up to me. She's lucky they let her in anyway, if I was paying £75+ for a slice of cake and a triangular shaped sandwich I wouldn't be very happy to listen to a baby grizzle all the way through it, perhaps a lower age limit barring none resident children will be their solution, that's if they have taken any notice at all.

Do you have a link to where she states she was in tears and very upset - all I can find is the BBC story which states she felt humiliated.

Maggy 07-12-2014 20:03

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I was having this stupid argument back in the 80s.We don't seem to have progressed any further.
:rolleyes:

Hom3r 07-12-2014 20:56

Re: Congratulations to the women
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35745419)
My friend was breast feeding her baby in her car sat outside a cafe and the cafe owner called the police to say it was indecent exposure.

This was about 3 years ago in Swansea and the worst argument against breast feeding i have heard was "Its unnatural"

Since its been going on for millions of years and humans are not the only species on earth to do this its one of the most natural things between mother and off spring.

Well the cafe owner is a tit, as getting breasts out in public is not indecent exposure.

TheDaddy 07-12-2014 20:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35745537)
Do you have a link to where she states she was in tears and very upset - all I can find is the BBC story which states she felt humiliated.

Here you go

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-12-02/c...with-a-napkin/

Ramrod 07-12-2014 20:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35745527)
When I was a lad..... it was common practice for women to drape a shawl over the area whilst breastfeeding in public. Mind you it was also common practice for all women to keep their breasts covered.

Showing your age there :D

Hom3r 07-12-2014 21:05

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I have seen a picture of a cafe that lets mother have a free tea/coffee why breastfeeding their baby.


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