Landlords to check ID & citizenship
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-30251741

I'm just wondering how many of the landlords are themselves legal and/or operate within the law. Can't say I like the idea of handing my passport over to some landlord somewhere to copy.

Of course if we had anything like a credible immigration system it wouldn't be down to landlords and employers (dubious or not) to do HMG's job.

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Sounds like the Nazi party (circa 1920 onwards) would do well in the next election in the UK!
Totally nasty propaganda seems to widespread in the UK in recent times.

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Will these landlords also have to check in their sheds?

I suspect a lot of landlords are not registered and not paying tax, so how will they be found in the first place?

Plus will landlords openly return information for purposely-overfull accommodation?

£3k fine? I'd rather see £100k or more!

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I invoke Godwins Law. :D

IIRC wasn't it Croydon that was using Google satellite images to identify sheds being used as accommodation?

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Too true. Rogue landlords are everywhere and if they choose not to abide by existing laws re. tax, planning, health & safety etc. etc. I can't see them bothering with any of this. It comes to something when our immigration system is so broken that people who're already behaving illegally are potentially being relied upon for its enforcement...

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Wouldn't it have made more sense to ask police helicopters when doing their heat-sweep for drug growing to share information?

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When I rented my first gaff in Leicester 4 years ago the landlord asked for proof of residency in the UK, I thought nothing of it. He said if it turned out I was in the country illegally he could have been prosecuted for either potentially knowing about it and turning a blind eye or some kind of 'aiding and abetting' type charge.

So if they're doing it just to cover their own backsides then it doesn't seem to be too much of a bad thing.

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I Agree this is a problem with landlords not being registered for tax purposes and it would be hard to enforce a law stating they must be registered.

My Sons ex boyfriends parents were loaded and it turned out they were renting houses including student accommodations in Cardiff and only had the accommodations registered on the oldest sons name and not their own name for tax purposes. They were caught and had to pay back 5 years of tax.

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How much do you think the average landlord makes :erm:

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Makes or declares? ;)

There are, of course, some extremely wealthy, exploitative and unpleasant landlords out there for whom a fine of a few grand would be meaningless and yes there are many decent and honest ones for whom it'd be a lot more serious. The richer they are, the less the fines affect them. Maybe what's required is proportional fines...

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I know one who rents out 2 properties at over £1000pcm each, and he has never paid a penny towards the mortgages... the DWP has been doing that via Housing Benefit.

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So he is in fact paying lots of pennies towards his mortgage and if the DWP is paying the rent then he will be paying tax on the income of those properties

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Exactly , perhaps based on the value of the landlords portfolio .

Having said that I don't see that identifying illegal immigrants is anything to do with landlords ,perhaps they should bill HMG for providing that service

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He has NEVER paid a penny towards the mortgages, both houses have been rented by large unemployed families since he first got the mortgages. At least 15 out of 25 years of mortgage payments all paid by Housing Benefits. Monthly rent is well above the mortgage payments, especially in recent years.

And I don't think he declares his income or is a registered landlord.

He is probably kakkin' himself today that this new rule will spread here.

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You know him that well?

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Unfortunately Igni, that implies joined up government. :(

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I think that Landlords will always get round this. All landlords are after one thing - more money, If a family turn up and offer double rent, the landlord will take it.

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Your contradicting yourself in an attempt to paint the landlord as evil and nasty .He is paying the mortgage himself he is just using funds from rent to do it as opposed to funds from wages ,when the mortgage is paid off the rent from the DWP will simply go into his bank account making him even more evil and nasty :rolleyes:

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The inside of your head must be a very strange place .Of course they are after more money ,as you are and just about everyone else

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Evil and nasty? Not as long as I've known him. He's just working the system to eventually get 2 free houses c/o the benefits system. And I can't see any sign of me contradicting myself. :confused:

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you said he hasn't paid a penny off the mortgages when clearly he has or they would have been repossessed ,the fact that he using rent money to pay off the mortgage is irrelevant and the fact that the rent comes from the DWP is also irrelevant .You are accusing him of working the system when he is providing a perfectly legitimate service and being paid for it ,you clearly have a chip on your shoulder for those better off than yourself especially since you then go on to accuse him of being a dodgy landlord without any evidence whatsoever

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WHOA! Who threw your toys out of the pram?

HE doesn't spend any of HIS money on the mortgage. The tenants claim Housing benefit and THAT pays the mortgage. Simple enough? Or are you into some sort of semantics? :confused:

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The housing benefit is HIS money ,it is HIS rent and he can do with it what he sees fit,he can go on holiday ,buy a car or pay off a mortgage it is up to him because it is HIS money or is that beyond your comprehension

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:rolleyes:

end of conversation

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So do you finally accept that monies paid to a landlord are his earnings or do you still think they are getting 'free' houses :rolleyes:

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