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Media Boy UK 20-11-2014 17:04

Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
New customers of cable operator Virgin Media (Liberty Global) look set to face higher prices to be announced on Monday 24th November 2014.

Most Virgin Media customers will see their bills increase by 5.9% on average from February 2015.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...ne-prices.html

Mr K 20-11-2014 17:43

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Another inflation busting rise. Inflation is 1.3% at the moment, and earnings less than that. Surely turning red to purple can't cost that much ? Any 'free' change or 'upgrade' from VM is soon followed by a price rise, getting a bit predictable. If they'd managed to invest in their network and fix the congestion causing iPlayer issues, but they haven't and it doesn't work. Where's the money going? It isn't into the network, but going to shareholders. Cheeky doesn't begin to describe it.

(Line Saver rental is up 14 % ! Hardly worth doing any longer - time to take it out or renew if you can be bothered to stay with them)

denphone 20-11-2014 17:45

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Line Rental at £16.99 a month is shocking.:td:

Scary 20-11-2014 17:54

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
yeah it is sky's is only £16.40 what a rip off

1andrew1 20-11-2014 18:29

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
It's interesting to see how the Big Four line up in annual line rental costs, assuming line rental saver is used:
1. VM £164.00
2. BT £169.90
3. TalkTalk £172.20
4. Sky £196.80 (line saver rental not available)
If you step outside the Big Four, the Post Office charges just £120 per year.

Scary 20-11-2014 18:33

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
on the sky one just call after the install and you can get it at £9.99

A Dave 20-11-2014 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35742187)
...If you step outside the Big Four, the Post Office charges just £120 per year.

Sadly, only until January. See:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6...increases.html

Ignitionnet 20-11-2014 18:45

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
BT raise their line rental price to £16.99, the rest pile in.

It's about the only way of hiding increased costs and loss of call revenue in a way that will be relatively unnoticed.

dilli-theclaw 20-11-2014 18:48

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
I really can't wait until my BT contract is up so I can get shot of her land line and just have a cable modem.

denphone 20-11-2014 19:01

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35742195)
I really can't wait until my BT contract is up so I can get shot of her land line and just have a cable modem.

l wish we could get rid of our landline Dilli but my ICD monitoring machine has to regularly send back info to the hospital so there is no chance of us getting rid of our landline.

richard s 20-11-2014 20:35

re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Do we need our land lines anymore?

Stephen 20-11-2014 23:35

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Amended title to reflect correct dates.

Changes to be made
Quote:

There will be a £1 increase on Virgin Media landlines but no changes to call plans or call connection fees. The voicemail service remains free alongside free calls to Virgin Mobiles and directory enquiries.

* Pre-paid annual Line Rental Saver will change to £164 (i.e. the equivalent of £13.66 per month, which is up sharply from just £12 today).

* Big Bundles are increasing by £3, except for Big Kahuna and Big Daddy which are increasing by £4.50 – this includes the line rental increase. These remain outstanding value compared to other competitor alternatives.

* Existing broadband-only customers whose prices changed on 1st October 2014 are unaffected.

Matth 20-11-2014 23:57

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35742199)
l wish we could get rid of our landline Dilli but my ICD monitoring machine has to regularly send back info to the hospital so there is no chance of us getting rid of our landline.

Would it work through a Vonage box or other Voip adapter - looks like with Voipfone you can have a free 056 number and can pay as you go, using a SIP compatible adapter

jobbie8 21-11-2014 00:05

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
My Line Rental Saver ends next week, paid £120 last year.

I haven't renewed this year as I'm thinking of dropping at least the landline, and maybe the TV too.
Just need to find a PVR and a good streaming box, that's the future.

We never use the landline, and £203 a year is far too much to waste on something we don't use anymore.

Dave42 21-11-2014 01:00

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
it will never end going up and up getting very close to quitting with prise rises now

denphone 21-11-2014 06:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth (Post 35742259)
Would it work through a Vonage box or other Voip adapter - looks like with Voipfone you can have a free 056 number and can pay as you go, using a SIP compatible adapter

l might look into that as we will be paying £16.99 for a phone that we never use ourselves but obviously the machine uses it even though it does not cost much for the info to be sent to the hospital.

Gavin-D 21-11-2014 11:03

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Give it 3 or 4 years and I can see the line rentals costing £20 a month before much longer people will be ditching line rental and just using mobiles

1andrew1 21-11-2014 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35742266)
it will never end going up and up getting very close to quitting with prise rises now

The future seems to be to get your mobile from your TV/broadband provider so there are some good savings to be made here.

Ignitionnet 21-11-2014 13:29

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35742287)
Give it 3 or 4 years and I can see the line rentals costing £20 a month before much longer people will be ditching line rental and just using mobiles

Broadband prices will have to go up if line rental goes down.

Blame Sky / Talk Talk primarily for this effect.

Taf 21-11-2014 13:30

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35742261)
We never use the landline, and £203 a year is far too much to waste on something we don't use anymore.

I asked about dropping the landline and was told that if I did, I would pay more overall as it would change my package. :(

qasdfdsaq 21-11-2014 14:45

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35742311)
Broadband prices will have to go up if line rental goes down.

Blame Sky / Talk Talk primarily for this effect.

I'd rather the price of my broadband be slapped on my bill as a charge for broadband than some arbitrary cross-subsidized other service that I do not want or use. If only for the psychological factor. I'd rather pay £45 for broadband than £30 for broadband and £15 for phone. Yet ironically if you take into consideration introductory discounts, two years of broadband and phone is still cheaper than broadband alone wherever you go.

Ignitionnet 21-11-2014 14:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742332)
I'd rather the price of my broadband be slapped on my bill as a charge for broadband than some arbitrary cross-subsidized other service that I do not want or use. If only for the psychological factor. I'd rather pay £45 for broadband than £30 for broadband and £15 for phone. Yet ironically if you take into consideration introductory discounts, two years of broadband and phone is still cheaper than broadband alone wherever you go.

Ditto; sadly Sky / TalkTalk changed people's expectations, especially TalkTalk, by bundling broadband free or near-free with other things.

figgyburn 21-11-2014 15:45

price increase in feb 2015
 
Hi,just had notice of a £6.64p price increase from feb 2015.this amounts to an approximate 10% increase on my average £60 bill which is way above inflation.now i would not mind so much if i knew which new channels we may get ( why no universal hd yet?)so i could decide whether to accept this increase or cancel.but virgin seem to want our money upfront then they may or may not let us know what channels we may get.if it was not for a few people on this forum informing us of channel rumours we would all be in the dark if we had to rely on virgin.why virgin don't e- mail us to tell us of forthcoming new channel launches is beyond me.cheers john

johnathome 21-11-2014 16:11

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Did the notice break down what's going up in price?

figgyburn 21-11-2014 17:12

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
No breakdown.just a blanket £6.64 increase.what a strange figure.will be interested in everybody else's figure.john

Martin_D 21-11-2014 17:17

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
£4.45 for me

vincerooney 21-11-2014 17:29

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
i dont know how they can justify these increases?? Far too high and nothing extra has arrived really. I dont know how i can keep justifying what we have to my mum unless something nice arrives pronto...

denphone 21-11-2014 17:59

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35742379)
i dont know how they can justify these increases?? Far too high and nothing extra has arrived really. I dont know how i can keep justifying what we have to my mum unless something nice arrives pronto...

Exactly as inflation is just over one per cent so there is no justification for another inflation busting rise.:(

andy_m 21-11-2014 18:10

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Ouch, time to shop around...

denphone 21-11-2014 18:12

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Or time to cut the fat off those big all in package's and make it slimmer.

nodrogd 21-11-2014 18:27

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
It's confirmed Line Rental is increasing by £1 to £16.99pcm. Line Rental saver goes up £20 a year to £164. Big bundles also going up:

http://recombu.com/digital/news/virg...l-bundles-2015

Chris 21-11-2014 18:38

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Threads merged

johnathome 21-11-2014 19:01

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35742394)
Ouch, time to shop around...

50% off Sky TV for VM customers :)

http://www.sky.com/shop/offers/switch-to-sky/

For years i would never contemplate giving Murdoch any of my money, now though the expenditure is becoming a joke.

I was going to go Freeview but that's a very tempting offer with only a 12 month contract.
There's someone over on MSE who has only paid half price for 3 years running, he may have had to lose the TV for a week or two but sounds like a plan to me.

nodrogd 21-11-2014 19:06

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35742187)
It's interesting to see how the Big Four line up in annual line rental costs, assuming line rental saver is used:
1. VM £164.00
2. BT £169.90
3. TalkTalk £172.20
4. Sky £196.80 (line saver rental not available)
If you step outside the Big Four, the Post Office charges just £120 per year.

Even the Post Office are hikeing their prices after New Year. Line Rental up £2 to £15. Line Rental saver up £24 to £144.

Ignitionnet 21-11-2014 19:28

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35742379)
i dont know how they can justify these increases?? Far too high and nothing extra has arrived really. I dont know how i can keep justifying what we have to my mum unless something nice arrives pronto...

Content is getting more expensive and customers are using more and more bandwidth.

Their costs to preserve your existing packages are higher than they were a year ago.

jobbie8 21-11-2014 21:39

I called retentions today, for information on price increases.
I currently have a £11 discount which runs out in May.
I was told that new discounts are only £7 on bundles, and the most they can do is £10 but that has to be signed off my a manager.

Line Rental Saver is going up December 1st, so I have till then to decide what to drop or keep

Mr K 21-11-2014 23:20

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35742424)
Line Rental Saver is going up December 1st, so I have till then to decide what to drop or keep


December 1st for the Line Rental Saver 14% increase ? That's very sneaky, giving the punters no time to react.

I'd be interested to know exactly what increases people do get. Last time they only included line rental when quoting the 'average' headline rise in their press release, a lot of increases were a lot more for overall packages. So do the sums when you get your letter and see if it is more than 5.9%, then we can estimate the true average rise.

VMboy 21-11-2014 23:55

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
I have all three not TiVo just standard STB and Email said £3:99, friends Email said just £3:00 only difference is they have TiVo, so why the difference in price rise?

Actually the only other difference is they have Evenings and Weekends package.

spankysmagicpian 22-11-2014 00:23

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Am I correct in thinking that you can cancel if in contract or during a loyalty discount due to the price rise?

I hate to jump to the darkside but current bill stands at £122 a month before the price rise. It's getting rather silly now.

RobboEdin 22-11-2014 11:40

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Yes, price change is a valid reason to cancel with no cancellation fees.

Skie 22-11-2014 13:39

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
So like last year will they be coming out with new bundles shortly after the price rises that in effect drop your prices back to pre-price rise levels?

They rely on people not to notice they could be getting a better deal, but they also have to keep attracting new customers by having competitive prices. Still a pretty awful practice.

Anypermitedroute 22-11-2014 14:26

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
£7.45 extra for me, wow! That is unbelievably ridiculous and no breakdown, £1, £2 ok, but £7.45 is unacceptable will now phone up once I confirm my contract renewal on the flat

denphone 22-11-2014 14:42

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35742536)
£7.45 extra for me, wow! That is unbelievably ridiculous and no breakdown, £1, £2 ok, but £7.45 is unacceptable will now phone up once I confirm my contract renewal on the flat

£7.45 :shocked: is frankly taking the mick out of the customer and to not have a breakdown of it in 2014 is just not good enough.

Mr K 22-11-2014 19:25

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35742536)
£7.45 extra for me, wow! That is unbelievably ridiculous and no breakdown, £1, £2 ok, but £7.45 is unacceptable will now phone up once I confirm my contract renewal on the flat

What percentage rise is that ? Bet its not 5.9%, I suspect they've done creative accountancy like last year. Posters on MSE are reporting rises of a lot more than 5.9%. http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5117311

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35742541)
£7.45 :shocked: is frankly taking the mick out of the customer and to not have a breakdown of it in 2014 is just not good enough.

There wasn't a breakdown last year either, again to make it difficult for customers to work what exactly had risen or compare with each other.

Osem 22-11-2014 19:58

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
£7.39 more for us on: BB L (up to 20mb), TV XL Talk Unlimited & itemised paper billing.

Given the rate of inflation and the last increase, not all that long ago, this is outrageous. It really ought to be explained on an itemised basis.

I'll be complaining about this loudly.

Anypermitedroute 22-11-2014 21:50

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35742588)
What percentage rise is that ? Bet its not 5.9%, I suspect they've done creative accountancy like last year. Posters on MSE are reporting rises of a lot more than 5.9%. http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5117311



There wasn't a breakdown last year either, again to make it difficult for customers to work what exactly had risen or compare with each other.

Correct, I'm looking at around 7.5% increase and wasn't in any loyalty discount period either

Thanks for the link

Helix 23-11-2014 00:29

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Not had an email or letter yet, but looks like my Big Kahuna bundle will be going up by £4.50 a month. Considering ditching TV and Phone and just keeping 152Mb BB for £39 a month. Then getting a Freeview PVR and Now TV. I can't remember the last time I watched a channel that isn't offered by either of them services.

I assume I can just cancel some services due to the increase even though I am still in contract. I know they would let me cancel everything due to the increase.

Uncle Peter 23-11-2014 01:23

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I bet nobody from VM can, or is willing to explain the logic behind some of these price rises which is probably why it's not explained on any of the letters.

There's going to be a call first thing Monday to instruct them to insert TV + phone line into nearest convenient orifice.

blackthorn 23-11-2014 08:12

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Does anyone know what the Vip package is going up by ?

andy_m 23-11-2014 12:44

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35742409)
50% off Sky TV for VM customers :)

http://www.sky.com/shop/offers/switch-to-sky/

For years i would never contemplate giving Murdoch any of my money, now though the expenditure is becoming a joke.

I was going to go Freeview but that's a very tempting offer with only a 12 month contract.
There's someone over on MSE who has only paid half price for 3 years running, he may have had to lose the TV for a week or two but sounds like a plan to me.

That is tempting, so thanks for the heads up - I hadn't found that and I've been looking non-stop this weekend - but the fibre broadband is an 18 month contract, meaning you'd face a price hike for the tv but not be in a position to take a bundle deal elsewhere. Obviously that's to head off what might happen when BT start their Champion's League coverage.

I'm going to have a think about that because I'd probably be prepared to let the tv go after 12 months anyway, and Sky broadband is better priced than Virgin so it wouldn't be the end of the world to be tied in to them for a further 6 months on top.

Food for thought, cheers.

---------- Post added at 11:44 ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 ----------

Needless to say Virgin aren't picking up!

1andrew1 23-11-2014 13:30

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35742409)
50% off Sky TV for VM customers :)

http://www.sky.com/shop/offers/switch-to-sky/

For years i would never contemplate giving Murdoch any of my money, now though the expenditure is becoming a joke.

I was going to go Freeview but that's a very tempting offer with only a 12 month contract.
There's someone over on MSE who has only paid half price for 3 years running, he may have had to lose the TV for a week or two but sounds like a plan to me.

Sky's a bit misleading with this comparison:
"All 7 Sky Sports channels in HD and access to BT Sport. Sky Tick [yes] VM Cross [no]" Yes, Sky Sports News is not in HD on VM yet but you can get BT Sport via VM.

blackthorn 23-11-2014 13:43

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
The sky chat fella has just quoted me £70.90 for 12 months and £111.40 after that for a similar package that I`m on now, which is the Vip package, which I`m paying £114 for with Virgin. The main difference being the broadband. I`m on 152 now and they can give me 40.
He said 12 month contract as well

andy_m 23-11-2014 14:38

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
It's 12months for the tv, but 18 for the broadband.

Superblade7 23-11-2014 19:47

Re: price increase in feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35742670)
That is tempting, so thanks for the heads up - I hadn't found that and I've been looking non-stop this weekend - but the fibre broadband is an 18 month contract, meaning you'd face a price hike for the tv but not be in a position to take a bundle deal elsewhere. Obviously that's to head off what might happen when BT start their Champion's League coverage.

I'm going to have a think about that because I'd probably be prepared to let the tv go after 12 months anyway, and Sky broadband is better priced than Virgin so it wouldn't be the end of the world to be tied in to them for a further 6 months on top.

Food for thought, cheers.

---------- Post added at 11:44 ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 ----------

Needless to say Virgin aren't picking up!

I'm thinking the same as you Andy, the Sky offer is excellent. I can't get fibre BB with Sky but the ADSL is quoted at 10-15Mb which would probably suffice for the browsing and bit of streaming my wife and I do (although a bit reluctant to go back to ADSL). All in for the Family Pack, Sports, Movies, HD, Unlimited BB & Phone it'd be £53.65 with Sky for 12 months.

I'll stick it out with VM until May as I've paid for the Sky Sports season ticket until then but once that's expired, I'll seriously shop around. Maybe even look at keeping the BB & phone with VM and TV with Sky as that may even work out cheaper than I currently pay and still have fibre BB.

You'll have to let us know how you get on with retentions as last time I spoke to them, they said their loyalty discounts had all reduced since the launch of the Big Bundles due to them being quite heavily discounted already. Good luck :)

vanman 23-11-2014 20:12

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35742453)
Am I correct in thinking that you can cancel if in contract or during a loyalty discount due to the price rise?

I hate to jump to the darkside but current bill stands at £122 a month before the price rise. It's getting rather silly now.

  • Ofcom is likely to regard any increase3 to the recurring monthly subscription charge4 in a fixed-term contract as ‘materially detrimental’ to consumers;
  • providers should therefore give consumers at least 30 days’ notice of any such price rise and allow them to exit their contract without penalty; and

freeair 23-11-2014 21:52

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Another one here who's increase is nothing like 5.9%, over 10% just like last time and no breakdown of increase <grrr>

Superblade7 24-11-2014 07:07

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
New bundle prices on VM website - http://store.virginmedia.com/big-bundles.html

Looks like Big Kahuna sees a £5 (8.2%) rise with £4 on the bundle and £1 on the LR :omg:

cj136uk 24-11-2014 08:48

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35742792)
New bundle prices on VM website - http://store.virginmedia.com/big-bundles.html

Looks like Big Kahuna sees a £5 (8.2%) rise with £4 on the bundle and £1 on the LR :omg:

It is a huge increase, considering other providers are offering the same or more for cheaper.
I suppose Liberty Cable have to pay for their purchase some how

Stephen 24-11-2014 08:56

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Well the phone price rise doesn't matter to me. I live on the first floor of a tenement flat in Glasgow and get little or no mobile signal. So I need to have a landline phone.

Mr K 24-11-2014 09:24

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
So the question is how have they 'arrived' at this average 5.9% for their press release? Given that line rental, bundle prices and those with their own ad hoc packages are getting increases bigger than this.

I'd really like to see the workings out. Mind you I asked last year and they didn't get an answer. Perhaps they hope the punters don't know how to do percentages.......

cj136uk 24-11-2014 09:31

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35742798)
So the question is how have they 'arrived' at this average 5.9% for their press release? Given that line rental, bundle prices and those with their own ad hoc packages are getting increases bigger than this.

I'd really like to see the workings out. Mind you I asked last year and they didn't get an answer. Perhaps they hope the punters don't know how to do percentages.......

I believe it is the average of all the increases. Mine is well over 10%!

Stop It 24-11-2014 09:44

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Interesting, and a bit sad.

I haven't received any e-mail detailing any price rise as yet. I signed up just before the "Big Bundles" and signed up for 12 months at £41.99 including line rental (100mb, XL TV and basic phone). Would that price be protected until next May as promised or will the increase hit me too?

cj136uk 24-11-2014 09:51

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35742803)
Interesting, and a bit sad.

I haven't received any e-mail detailing any price rise as yet. I signed up just before the "Big Bundles" and signed up for 12 months at £41.99 including line rental (100mb, XL TV and basic phone). Would that price be protected until next May as promised or will the increase hit me too?

I asked that question. No, they will give you a credit for £4.50 until then!!!:mad:

Stop It 24-11-2014 09:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cj136uk (Post 35742805)
I asked that question. No, they will give you a credit for £4.50 until then!!!:mad:

Thanks for that, will keep an eye on the bills and get that credit sorted if they try to chuck the increase on.

Mr K 24-11-2014 10:05

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cj136uk (Post 35742801)
I believe it is the average of all the increases. Mine is well over 10%!

Well I haven't heard of anybody getting an increase of less than 5.9%, only more. Given that the line rental itself has increased by 6.2%, it's difficult to know how they've fiddled it.

Osem 24-11-2014 10:38

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Maybe they used the same methods the people who do the crime figures employ...

Our services cost £62.54 so an extra £7.39 represents an 11.8% increase - double VM's 'average' figure. :mad:

warrenb 24-11-2014 10:41

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
it is the classic ploy used by rail firms all around the country, they raise the little used or not used at all products and packages by 0.1% say, this brings the average tumbling for all packages.

Time to look at what we actually watch and record (don't think we watch anything live anymore). Freeview and NowTV maybe the order of the ay, and as for the line rental, just pure greed, they should install IP phones instead of landlines these days.

1andrew1 24-11-2014 11:18

Re: Virgin Media to raise broadband and phone prices in Feb 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warrenb (Post 35742813)
it is the classic ploy used by rail firms all around the country, they raise the little used or not used at all products and packages by 0.1% say, this brings the average tumbling for all packages.

Agreed, I think it's zero rises on things like phone calls, 1471, 1571 etc that enable the average to be so low.

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrenb (Post 35742813)
and as for the line rental, just pure greed, they should install IP phones instead of landlines these days.

I agree that the landline price rise is a rip-off. However, that cost doesn't disappear if you don't use your phone. It would be more appropriate to include it in the cost of broadband but no one's going to do that; in fact the trend at the moment from ADSL providers seems to be to whack up the cost of the landline to keep the headline broadband offers looking very cheap.
I get the impression that on this occasion, the price rises are really making people think. Previous comments on price rises have been along the lines it's only a few quid a month, I can afford it, look at all the new channels we have (forgetting to multiply that rise by 12 months or several years) but this time around I detect a more rebellious approach kicking in. Are people not swayed by the exclusive offering of ITV Be in HD? :D

denphone 24-11-2014 11:36

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35742817)
Agreed, I think it's zero rises on things like phone calls, 1471, 1571 etc that enable the average to be so low.

I agree that the landline price rise is a rip-off. However, that cost doesn't disappear if you don't use your phone. It would be more appropriate to include it in the cost of broadband but no one's going to do that; in fact the trend at the moment from ADSL providers seems to be to whack up the cost of the landline to keep the headline broadband offers looking very cheap.
I get the impression that on this occasion, the price rises are really making people think. Previous comments on price rises have been along the lines it's only a few quid a month, I can afford it, look at all the new channels we have (forgetting to multiply that rise by 12 months or several years) but this time around I detect a more rebellious approach kicking in. Are people not swayed by the exclusive offering of ITV Be in HD? :D

l think more people will run away rather then watch that rubbish Andrew.:D

muppetman11 24-11-2014 11:40

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Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35742764)
I'm thinking the same as you Andy, the Sky offer is excellent. I can't get fibre BB with Sky but the ADSL is quoted at 10-15Mb which would probably suffice for the browsing and bit of streaming my wife and I do (although a bit reluctant to go back to ADSL).

I don't understand your reluctance if you only do small amounts of internet browsing 10-15mb is more than enough , in fact its more than enough for Sky On Demand usage also.

denphone 24-11-2014 11:45

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35742824)
I don't understand your reluctance if you only do small amounts of internet browsing 10-15mb is more than enough , in fact its more than enough for Sky On Demand usage also.

My parents had ADSL and the signal was pretty bad with the broadband and On demand constantly being affected with a poor signal MM so l can understand peoples reluctance.

muppetman11 24-11-2014 11:49

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35742827)
My parents had ADSL and the signal was pretty bad with the broadband and On demand constantly being affected with a poor signal MM so l can understand peoples reluctance.

The difference being as you told us your parents were on a long line , the estimates given now have to fall within the range ie 10-15mb or your allowed to cancel without penalty.

My line on ADSL was around 8-10mb and fault free we only upgraded due to the fact more of us were using the internet at once , if my line was running at nearer 15mb I'd have never upgraded to fibre at least short term.

1andrew1 24-11-2014 12:02

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35742828)
The difference being as you told us your parents were on a long line , the estimates given now have to fall within the range ie 10-15mb or your allowed to cancel without penalty , my line on ADSL was around 8-10mb and fault free we only upgraded due to the fact more of us were using the internet at once , if my line was running at nearer 15mb I'd have never upgraded to fibre at least short term.

I think it's worth checking with others in the area to see their experience. Presumably Sky, TalkTalk, PlusNet etc would let you upgrade to fibre if ADSL was unreliable.

qasdfdsaq 24-11-2014 12:20

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Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35742806)
Thanks for that, will keep an eye on the bills and get that credit sorted if they try to chuck the increase on.

Cheeky.

Martin_D 24-11-2014 12:28

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This is how this will work

Price increase - *FREE SPEED UPGRADE*

Kushan 24-11-2014 12:53

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35742828)
The difference being as you told us your parents were on a long line , the estimates given now have to fall within the range ie 10-15mb or your allowed to cancel without penalty.

My line on ADSL was around 8-10mb and fault free we only upgraded due to the fact more of us were using the internet at once , if my line was running at nearer 15mb I'd have never upgraded to fibre at least short term.

I can understand his reluctance. ADSL is notoriously flaky. I think you got lucky with your line. I had an ADSL line that occasionally sync'd at the full 24Mbit as the exchange was right next to my house, yet we had no end of issues with it from constant drop outs every few weeks to needing to reboot the BeBox nearly daily. Buying our own decent ADSL router helped but the line itself was always dodgy, it'd be fine for weeks then suddenly you'd get a load of noise on it and your sync rate would plummet along with constant disconnections.

That would cue the rigmaorole of phoning the ISP, going through the usual BS diagnostics to prove that, yes, the microfilter was changed, yes, we used the original equipment provided, yes we changed the cabling, etc. until they'd reluctantly book an Openreach engineer and then you're faced with the threat of being charged if he decides there's no fault there (Which one tried to do and we had to fight). Then, they'd finally admit there was a problem and disconnect us immediately while we waited about a week for them to fix something in the exchange. Fun.

So yeah, **** ADSL.

muppetman11 24-11-2014 13:06

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A bad experience scars you for life doesn't it , I had a similar experience with VM a few years back.

Regular outages both TV and BB , months and months of dire internet speeds , latency issues etc with constant fix dates what's always passed with no resolution so I suppose a stable 8-10 mb line on ADSL was a luxury for me , to balance it though my parents are only able to receive around 2mb via ADSL and have a cable connection what's excellent.

Ignitionnet 24-11-2014 13:11

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Most of us use more bandwidth than we used to. This bandwidth and the hardware serving it has to be paid for. The broadband market is very competitive at retail level so all operators stash price increases elsewhere if at all possible.

The obvious solution to this is to look elsewhere if unhappy.

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35742848)
I can understand his reluctance. ADSL is notoriously flaky.

<Snip>

So yeah, **** ADSL.

Bad experience and not typical. Stability is the one thing I found ADSL superior to cable for. Every time I've had cable I've had at least a few days a year of downtime. ADSL my downtime per year was measured as a matter of hours. At one time I cancelled 50Mb VM and moved to 15Mb ADSL as VM was flaky.

YMMV. xDSL is actually fundamentally a more stable technology than cable as it can adapt to line conditions and impairments. Both are hosed however if the access network is very bad.

Kushan 24-11-2014 13:25

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35742857)

Bad experience and not typical. Stability is the one thing I found ADSL superior to cable for. Every time I've had cable I've had at least a few days a year of downtime. ADSL my downtime per year was measured as a matter of hours. At one time I cancelled 50Mb VM and moved to 15Mb ADSL as VM was flaky.

I do agree that bad experiences can mar your feelings towards a technology and lord knows mine was horrific enough. I've had my fair share of VM issues as well, it's just a case of different experiences which I believe is ultimately why Superblade7 doesn't want to go near ADSL again (Then again he might have entirely different reasons).

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35742857)
YMMV. xDSL is actually fundamentally a more stable technology than cable as it can adapt to line conditions and impairments. Both are hosed however if the access network is very bad.

I can't agree with this, though. I wouldn't say either technology is "Fundamentally" more stable than the other. Cable/DOCSIS adapts to line conditions in much the same way ADSL does, we just don't see a "Sync" rate that declines, instead we see things like QAM dropping to QPSK and the like. I would even argue that the shielded copper from a cable network is less prone to issues than unshielded copper (or the dreaded aluminium) DSL uses. Virgin seems to have a history of issues but I think that's less to do with the technology and more to do with the lack of investment and maintenance on the network itself.

One thing I will say, though, that very much works in Virgin's favour - it's a lot easier to get a fault tech out for a Virgin fault than it is for a BT fault.

Ignitionnet 24-11-2014 13:40

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35742862)
Cable/DOCSIS adapts to line conditions in much the same way ADSL does, we just don't see a "Sync" rate that declines, instead we see things like QAM dropping to QPSK and the like.

When was the last time your downstream channels dropped to 64QAM?

If you were to say have a huge burst of noise in the middle of an upstream channel that produced a negative SNR would it be able to adapt?

A single narrowband burst of noise will cause a loss of 50% of the capacity of an upstream channel. On xDSL this would be a far smaller effect as it uses DMT.

Your 'sync rate' declines it just isn't displayed. The added bonus is of course that impediments anywhere on the node can cause it to drop as, while you do have coax not twisted pair, you are also on a shared access segment with however many other hundred people.

Cable has its own set of issues. xDSL was built to run on unshielded twisted pairs in an unpleasant environment. Cable relies on being a closed network with constant maintenance to remove ingress.

Superblade7 24-11-2014 14:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35742824)
I don't understand your reluctance if you only do small amounts of internet browsing 10-15mb is more than enough , in fact its more than enough for Sky On Demand usage also.

Having had excellent service from VM for many years with fibre, just seems a step backwards to go back to ADSL. Plus the BT line in our property has never been connected as we've had VM all the time we've lived there so don't know if the line quality is good or bad.

However, if I'd get 10Mb - 15Mb then I'd agree that I should have no issue with what we use it for. Especially with the cost savings.

Have to see what's on offer next year when the season ticket is up like I said.

Kushan 24-11-2014 15:35

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35742866)
When was the last time your downstream channels dropped to 64QAM?

If you were to say have a huge burst of noise in the middle of an upstream channel that produced a negative SNR would it be able to adapt?

A single narrowband burst of noise will cause a loss of 50% of the capacity of an upstream channel. On xDSL this would be a far smaller effect as it uses DMT.

The technical differences between the two doesn't necessarily make one "better" or "worse". Yes, a single fault can affect more customers but likewise that means more customers can be serviced with a single fault tech. I get what you're saying, its resilience isn't quite at the level of ADSL's but even with my super dodgy ADSL line, I rarely seen the sync speeds drop substantially in the name of stability, rather it tended to just die and spend hours rebooting. Then when the fault was actually fixed, convincing it to ramp back up to its ideal sync rate was a nightmare as well.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35742866)
Your 'sync rate' declines it just isn't displayed. The added bonus is of course that impediments anywhere on the node can cause it to drop as, while you do have coax not twisted pair, you are also on a shared access segment with however many other hundred people.

Cable has its own set of issues. xDSL was built to run on unshielded twisted pairs in an unpleasant environment. Cable relies on being a closed network with constant maintenance to remove ingress.

Certainly, however both technologies spread many customers over shared infrastructure. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say about being on a shared segment, when both do this? Yeah your coax is shared with others whereas (I believe) your BT line goes into a cab by itself but as I mentioned earlier, the pro/con divide there means if there's a fault, it takes longer to get the BT line fixed than the Virgin Coax (or has been in my experience).

I think what I'm trying to understand is why you'd claim that ADSL's technology is better, if that was the case then why wouldn't Virgin just deploy ADSL instead of Cable?

Stop It 24-11-2014 15:51

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742835)
Cheeky.

I was quoted 12 months at £41.99, not "7 months then we chuck the price up"

As it is an above RPI increase too that would mean I could tear up the contract if they didn't honour it. After that, well it's up for negotiation really.

qasdfdsaq 24-11-2014 16:00

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And they know that, and are just relying on most people not realizing...

Stop It 24-11-2014 16:41

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742906)
And they know that, and are just relying on most people not realizing...

Indeed.

A contract only works if both sides abide by it after all.

Still, will wait to see what happens as I have received nothing as yet so may be moaning for no reason!

Ignitionnet 24-11-2014 17:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35742896)
I think what I'm trying to understand is why you'd claim that ADSL's technology is better, if that was the case then why wouldn't Virgin just deploy ADSL instead of Cable?

I said it was more stable, not that it's 'better'. That's an entirely subjective measure.

Virgin didn't deploy ADSL because they'd have had to deploy a similar network to the one BT have built with DSLAMs in cabinets which wasn't feasible. Virgin's telco network is multiplexed in the field so adding xDSL to the mix would require cabinet hardware.

It was, more than once, considered however it cannot match the access network capacity of a DOCSIS 3 cable network with the current technology available.

andy_m 24-11-2014 18:31

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Phoned Virgin. They can increase my broadband speed to 152mb and leave me with xl everything plus Sky Sports in hd for £80pm rising to £90pm at some point during the contract. Let's face it, that's not a bad deal, but it's not as good as available elsewhere, and it's a lot more than I need, so I've cancelled. I felt a distinct lack of effort to keep me, which was instrumental in my decision.

johnathome 24-11-2014 19:37

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35742923)
Phoned Virgin. They can increase my broadband speed to 152mb and leave me with xl everything plus Sky Sports in hd for £80pm rising to £90pm at some point during the contract. Let's face it, that's not a bad deal, but it's not as good as available elsewhere, and it's a lot more than I need, so I've cancelled. I felt a distinct lack of effort to keep me, which was instrumental in my decision.

What are you paying ATM? Did you mention the Sky 50% offer for VM customers? I bet they wouldn't have matched it.

I can't wait to see what they come up with for me. I have to get a roof aerial fitted before i phone as i get bad reception on the living room TV.

Although i'm not sure they would be able to compete with free :)

passingbat 24-11-2014 19:50

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35742937)
I have to get a roof aerial fitted before i phone as i get bad reception on the living room TV.

Although i'm not sure they would be able to compete with free :)

If you keep phone and BB with them, and already have a Tivo, normally you will be able to keep the Tivo with M TV (effectively the Freeview channels), so you do get TV with a PVR FOC. In fact, last year when I wanted to cancel the TV service and just keep BB and phone, keeping Tivo with M TV made it cheaper!

Kushan 24-11-2014 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35742923)
Phoned Virgin. They can increase my broadband speed to 152mb and leave me with xl everything plus Sky Sports in hd for £80pm rising to £90pm at some point during the contract. Let's face it, that's not a bad deal, but it's not as good as available elsewhere, and it's a lot more than I need, so I've cancelled. I felt a distinct lack of effort to keep me, which was instrumental in my decision.

They're possibly relying on the fact that you can't get 152Mbit elsewhere, you can't even get above 80Mbit elsewhere really and even then only if you're quite lucky.

Mr K 24-11-2014 20:10

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35742950)
They're possibly relying on the fact that you can't get 152Mbit elsewhere, you can't even get above 80Mbit elsewhere really and even then only if you're quite lucky.

Yes but 10mb is enough to do browsing/streaming which is all most punters do.

johnathome 24-11-2014 20:56

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35742943)
If you keep phone and BB with them, and already have a Tivo, normally you will be able to keep the Tivo with M TV (effectively the Freeview channels), so you do get TV with a PVR FOC. In fact, last year when I wanted to cancel the TV service and just keep BB and phone, keeping Tivo with M TV made it cheaper!

Yeah i get that but i want to ditch the LL as well, it galls me that i pay that much for something and get constant cold calls. Nobody phones me on it as they know i very rarely answer. If i'm sat right next to the phone i'll answer it and say hello, if no-one replys within a second i cut it off. Heck, even my aged parents call my mobile now.

I have some money left over from a bonus at work so i'm going to splash that on a BT/Humax box. I've seen posts where people say they have 30mb BB and basic TV for £25.

I'll see what they say but i'm pretty determined to cut the cord. Shame really as i've been a cable customer for 25 years.

qasdfdsaq 24-11-2014 21:12

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35742950)
They're possibly relying on the fact that you can't get 152Mbit elsewhere, you can't even get above 80Mbit elsewhere really and even then only if you're quite lucky.

Unless you're one of the lucky few who can get 330Mbit or 1000Mbit.

Then again with BT FTTPoD, far more people can get 330Mbit than VM's 152Mbit, just at higher install cost. Still, if it ended up £30 a month cheaper than VM it'd only take four years to make back the difference!

Ignitionnet 24-11-2014 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35742923)
Phoned Virgin. They can increase my broadband speed to 152mb and leave me with xl everything plus Sky Sports in hd for £80pm rising to £90pm at some point during the contract. Let's face it, that's not a bad deal, but it's not as good as available elsewhere, and it's a lot more than I need, so I've cancelled. I felt a distinct lack of effort to keep me, which was instrumental in my decision.

Seems Sky have changed their attitude towards retention a bit too.

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742960)
Unless you're one of the lucky few who can get 330Mbit or 1000Mbit.

Then again with BT FTTPoD, far more people can get 330Mbit than VM's 152Mbit, just at higher install cost. Still, if it ended up £30 a month cheaper than VM it'd only take four years to make back the difference!

The cheapest I've seen FTTPoD / FoD for is £175+VAT / month for a 500GB peak time transfer limit, and 500GB off-peak.

FoD is still not available to as many people as VM's 152Mb yet. It's far from ubiquitous in its coverage of FTTC areas. About 4.7 million premises passed at last announcement of coverage.

andy_m 24-11-2014 22:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35742937)
What are you paying ATM? Did you mention the Sky 50% offer for VM customers? I bet they wouldn't have matched it.

I can't wait to see what they come up with for me. I have to get a roof aerial fitted before i phone as i get bad reception on the living room TV.

Although i'm not sure they would be able to compete with free :)

Currently £85, due to go up to £99 when half price Sky Sports deal ends, and then obviously the February price rises are due on top of that. I told them about the Sky deal, and I've also been flirting with TalkTalk and reducing my outgoings significantly, but they couldn't come close to matching it. I've read that sometimes customer service agents have quotas of special deals and sometimes it's worth a second or third call back, but I not really interested in chasing them.

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35742950)
They're possibly relying on the fact that you can't get 152Mbit elsewhere, you can't even get above 80Mbit elsewhere really and even then only if you're quite lucky.

I think they're missing the point for an awful lot of average internet users.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35742970)

It's pretty much what I experienced when I left Sky for Virgin 4 years ago to be honest. This is the first year I haven't been impressed with Virgin retentions.

cj136uk 24-11-2014 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35742943)
If you keep phone and BB with them, and already have a Tivo, normally you will be able to keep the Tivo with M TV (effectively the Freeview channels), so you do get TV with a PVR FOC. In fact, last year when I wanted to cancel the TV service and just keep BB and phone, keeping Tivo with M TV made it cheaper!

This isn't free or cheaper. For TVM you have to have an active subscription, and to get TVM with a TiVo you pay an extra £10 for the facility. It doesn't offer all the freeview or freesat channels!

Kushan 24-11-2014 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35742951)
Yes but 10mb is enough to do browsing/streaming which is all most punters do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35742973)
I think they're missing the point for an awful lot of average internet users.

Then why are we comparing the 152Mbit service to Sky/BT/etc. and not the 50mbit service?

andy_m 24-11-2014 22:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35742983)
Then why are we comparing the 152Mbit service to Sky/BT/etc. and not the 50mbit service?

The 152 product is what they offered to try and keep me, I'm currently on the 50 and even that is more than I need.

Kushan 24-11-2014 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35742984)
The 152 product is what they offered to try and keep me, I'm currently on the 50 and even that is more than I need.

Did they not even try to offer you a deal with the 50? I'm surprised they'd try to push you onto a higher tier rather than put the effort in to keeping you. Bit odd.

passingbat 24-11-2014 23:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cj136uk (Post 35742980)
This isn't free or cheaper. For TVM you have to have an active subscription, and to get TVM with a TiVo you pay an extra £10 for the facility. It doesn't offer all the freeview or freesat channels!

It was for me. I was surprised when they told me it would be cheaper to keep my existing Tivo with M TV, rather than dump TV altogether (I did say "and already have a Tivo" in my original post). I had checked the prices on the web before phoning them and the price I ended up paying was less than the web price for just BB and phone; It was the CS rep that suggested that I keep the Tivo with M TV in order to reduce the price

I know TV M doesn't have all the Freeview channels, but it's close enough for me. especially when you get (in my view) the best PVR around to go with it.


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