Virgin Media Business relaunch SME products
 

You can now get an up to 152Mbit broadband service from Virgin Media Business

http://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk...mall-Business/

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Whats interesting on the 50mb and 152mb packages is the small print.

"No traffic management to broadband connection between 8am-6pm Monday to Friday" which suggests that they traffic manage at night and early hours.

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Outside of normal business hours, but thats fine as most businesses wouldn't be operating then.

DOn't like that new website. Its a bit LOUD!

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Also note that they're giving out a SH2-AC with these.

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They are not currently offering the fixed IP solution with the 152 Mb/s service though. I was told it may come in the future. If you have the 50 Mb/s service you have to pay for a new modem install too - it looks like it is a Superhub 2 variant.

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Am sure it ws the same last time they launched new services. The Fixed IP wasn't available at first and then the top tier took longer to get it.

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Previously there used to be a 10 & 20 Mb/s service - but due to the way it was provisioned only the 10 Mb/s service could get a fixed IP address.

After these were scrapped in favour of the 30 Mb/s and 50 Mb/s both could get either a single fixed IP address or a routed subnet.

Then due to issues with the SH1 the service was taken off sale and the 10 & 20 offered again, only to return a year later with 50 Mb/s only.

As APS says it is a superhub 2AC they quote for the 152 Mb/s service, but the last I heard is that the business firmware for that device was still being worked on. So I am guessing no way to provide the L2TP tunnel currently.

Hopefully the fixed IP address option will come as soon as the business firmware is available for the new SH.

Technically I guess no reason why the SH1 couldn't provide a 152 Mb.s service ? And then offer a fixed IP option

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It boggles my mind that Virgin doesn't offer fixed IP services for all their business products.

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Agreed. I suspect it can only be short term though. I can't imagine there is much stock of the old SH 1 left so business firmware will need to be made available for the SH2/SH2AC, if any further installs are provided with fixed IP addresses.

Now how long it will take for the new firmware to be available is anyone's guess!

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... but then I suppose currently modem mode is available on the SH2ac with present firmware. Just when it's less necessary than with that wretched SH1.

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Upload speeds?

Probably not spectacular given they appear to be published nowhere beyond the traffic management key facts wherever those are hiding.

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There is plenty stock left.

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More interested in the 'Up to 100Mb' for 'From £500' personally.

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If you click on that, those (what I presume are leased lines) start at 30/30, presumably that's the £500 one. Though I know you can negotiate with them at that level, at least.

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I asked and was told upload speeds between 12-15 Mb/s today on the 152 Mb/s downstream service. Also that the product team are working on the Fixed IP option for that option. Unsure why a range was quoted! maybe 12 Mb/s in some areas and 15 Mb/s in others maybe when upstream moved to 64QAM?

I think it is down to business firmware for the SH2AC is not yet ready, that this launched without a fixed IP option

I interpret that has working out how to get the original Netgear options for L2TP surfaced in the VM specific firmware, which is the difference when comparing the SH1 business firmware to residential

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That's a shame! I had hoped they would be running short of SH1 stock as that might inject some urgency into the business FW for the 2AC. I assume only the 50 Mb/s business service is using the SH1 for new installs now?

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[QUOTE=ccarmock;35730892]I asked and was told upload speeds between 12-15 Mb/s today on the 152 Mb/s downstream service. Also that the product team are working on the Fixed IP option for that option. Unsure why a range was quoted! maybe 12 Mb/s in some areas and 15 Mb/s in others maybe when upstream moved to 64QAM?

I think it is down to business firmware for the SH2AC is not yet ready, that this launched without a fixed IP option

I interpret that has working out how to get the original Netgear options for L2TP surfaced in the VM specific firmware, which is the difference when comparing the SH1 business firmware to residential

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That's a shame! I had hoped they would be running short of SH1 stock as that might inject some urgency into the business FW for the 2AC. I assume only the 50 Mb/s business service is using the SH1 for new installs now?[/QUOTE]

I read somewhere authoritative(IIRC) that SH1s are being installed as single play bottom tier customers.

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Right - lets hope they run out soon!

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You want internet and only internet? Well screw you, have the worst CPE we have. Enjoy your internet!

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the best idea from virgin media yet ...so says Gtimers

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Hopefully the 30Mb upstream trials will go well and they'll be able to seriously look at deploying a new tier with that kind of data rate sooner rather than later.

Would smoke FTTC in both directions then, which is where they want to be and where they will be, just a question of when.

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30 Mb/s upstream trials sound interesting for sure.

For me on the business service I hope they get moving with the business firmware for the new Superhub to support fixed IP address.

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I wonder if the 30mbit trials are just for business or for all 152Mbit tiers. That's not a bad upload ratio to have.

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they don't seem top ever launch things for business first!

Back in the days of the 10 Mb/s fixed IP business service they were offering 768 K up, as opposed to the 512K other 10 Mb/s services had. but since then it's been the same as residential, with the delay in bringing any new services to business. So I'd be surprised if 30 Mb/s upload trials were for business services.

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As long as they don't cripple it with STM...

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They are tech trials to make sure it works and understanding how people use it in order to get a grasp of capacity requirements, not trialing a new product.

They will be for residential services, the trialists are residential.

It isn't going to be an upstream uplift for 152Mb. By the time it sees light of day assuming the green light is given 152 won't be the top tier.

Check out the rest of the UPC family for some idea of what the other children are selling. 200/20 and 250/20 are the popular ones with the odd 200/10, 250/15 and 500/25 scattered around and a few outliers.

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Indeed, though if I'm honest, I'd rather have better upload speeds with a bit of STM (not a crippling amount) than no upload speed increase at all. Then again, my use-case isn't heavy on the upload side, it'd just be nice to be able to upload files and photographs a bit faster. I don't do a lot of twitch streaming.

Ahhh ok, that makes more sense. So presumably even if it is given the go-ahead, it won't make an appearance for quite some time, years away.

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Me too. Though I'm still sore from the days of -75% upload STM on my already despicable 10Mbps down 0.5Mbps up VM line. On a bad day download wouldn't manage more than 200Kbps and upload was STM'd to below 200Kbps too. 'Broadband' my arse.