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Arthurgray50@blu 17-09-2014 12:17

New Year Revellers Face London Fireworks Charge
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1337301/ne...reworks-charge

This is another crazy idea coming from an idiot. Firsly, he puts up the congestion charge. Now he wants to charge people to go and watch the firework display in London on New Year Eve.

IF, you get 100.000 people go into London on the night, that will run into millions of pounds.

What does he think the people of London - fools. He will already get money from Tv companies to filim it for Tv.

I went to the 2000 one, and you could not move for the crowd. So l went down to the last boat on the river, still could not move.

Could it be that he wants to get money for the FREE travel Tfl give on the night.

He claims that they wont make any money out it. This is the man who has become an MP, and a future PM.

He is totally nuts.

Stephen 17-09-2014 12:21

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Its really not that crazy.

Other large cities have charged for New Year events for a while now. Glasgow did so before they stopped holding one and as far as I know Edinburgh still does.

Its a better idea too as it limits the amount of people that can gain entry, stopping overcrowding and also stops tickets being wasted.

The money made from it will go in to the clean up afterwards among other useful things. More money to the London council which can in turn be used for good things in the area.

Qtx 17-09-2014 12:28

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It was Labours Ken Livingstone who introduced the congestion fee Arthur. Yes we can blame LABOUR for that and everything related to that.

Boris has made a mistake with this. You can see where he is coming from but it's a mistake. Both you and I can probably see this for free anyway Arthur, so not a big deal for us.

Oh, and Boris for PM, because he's a great mayor and mp in general and keeps Labour out. Oh, and to annoy Arthur :D

richard s 17-09-2014 12:29

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Personally I bloody hate the things.

Qtx 17-09-2014 12:30

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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35729443)
Personally I bloody hate the things.

You're not supposed to eat them!

Ignitionnet 17-09-2014 12:32

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Can't see selling 100,000 tickets at £10 a piece being a problem for London.

Makes sense making a few quid, the local firework displays in London that I've been to were all chargeable.

Stephen 17-09-2014 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35729447)
Can't see selling 100,000 tickets at £10 a piece being a problem for London. Makes sense making a few quid, the local firework displays in London that I've been to were all chargeable.

Its not a lot to pay and as I said it helps keep the crowd size under control and stops total idiots getting in to ruin it for everyone else.

Edinburgh are currently asking for £20 per ticket for this years event!
http://www.edinburghshogmanay.org/ev...y-street-party

So London is better value lol.

heero_yuy 17-09-2014 12:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35729449)

Edinburgh are currently asking for £20 per ticket for this years event!
http://www.edinburghshogmanay.org/ev...y-street-party

So London is better value lol.

First step in having to pay for independance. :D

£10 a ticket for one of the best displays in the country is hardly going to ruin people.

Qtx 17-09-2014 13:04

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Wonder if they will reduce the council tax for Londoner's as the fireworks will be paid for by tickets now? yeah right :P

Stephen 17-09-2014 13:10

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I highly doubt that would cover the cost of the fireworks. Remember there is a lot that will also need to be paid for that event. Staffing, clean up after event and quiet a lot of other things.

tweetiepooh 17-09-2014 13:22

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Does London still have free night buses New Years Eve? That must cost someone something.

And I bet insurance is sky rocketing (sorry), especially if there is no control on attendance.

DocDutch 17-09-2014 13:22

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I think it is a good idea really and limiting the area to just 100k people is wise as what how many came to last event something like 250k?


The only issue I do see which will happen is that 40k of those tickets will probably go to the sponsors of the event.

Stephen 17-09-2014 13:27

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Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 35729463)
I think it is a good idea really and limiting the area to just 100k people is wise as what how many came to last event something like 250k? The only issue I do see which will happen is that 40k of those tickets will probably go to the sponsors of the event.

It was nearly 500,000 to last years event!

According to the article on the BBC News its been done in part due to the strain put upon the transport network and emergency services. So when you look at that limiting the event to 100,000 is a great idea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-29234879
Quote:

A spokesman said last year's display had put "enormous strain on transport and safety infrastructure", and after consulting emergency services and Transport for London the event in its current form was found to be "untenable".

Sirius 17-09-2014 13:28

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Yet another Arthur Tory rant. :rolleyes:

martyh 17-09-2014 20:04

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I can't believe London hasn't been charging ,Newcastle has been charging for some years now as have other major cities

Arthurgray50@blu 17-09-2014 22:01

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Siruis, its nothing to do with a Tory rant.

I have been to these festive occasions up in London. And yes, you cannot move. Its all about having a good time.

Big thing though, like most cities that are charging, l believe that Edinburgh has guest bands.
London dont have that. Its just fireworks - thats it.

What is making me laugh, is the fact tht they are saying - we wont make any money, Dont make me laugh.

Hugh 17-09-2014 22:11

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Do you think that the extra police, cleaners, public transport staff, etc. don't need paying?

TheDaddy 18-09-2014 01:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35729462)
Does London still have free night buses New Years Eve? That must cost someone something.

And I bet insurance is sky rocketing (sorry), especially if there is no control on attendance.

Fosters used to pay when I used to go, it's a long time ago now though

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35729465)
Yet another Arthur Tory rant. :rolleyes:

Yet another bill anti Arthur post :)

Maggy 18-09-2014 10:38

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Just stick to the topic and stop baiting the OP.

richard s 18-09-2014 12:08

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If you do not want to PAY then do not GO!

thenry 01-01-2015 15:32

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the music montage sucked last night.

Paul 01-01-2015 15:50

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£10 ?

Seems fair to me to watch a fantastic display.

If you dont like it and want to be scrooge, watch it on TV.

Gary L 01-01-2015 15:57

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If there's money to be made. then people will charge.
if people will pay. then people will charge.

if it used to be free. then charge for it.

it would be interesting if we could have a sort of documentary about things like this. we see the money get bagged up and see what they do with it.

pay the cleaners. they were due to be paid as normal anyway at the end of the week.
pay the police. if you pay them there will be none left to pay the cleaners.
pay the volunteers. they work for free.

it'll probably just end up being used to pay for dinners, wine and taxi's at the end of the program.

Who paid for the fireworks we'll all be asking.
probably sponsors.

alanbjames 01-01-2015 16:30

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When my son was in University in Swansea he lived not far from where they would hold fireworks on new year and guy fawlkes. He was informed the last year he lived in student accomedation that the Council were considering charging people who lived within a certain distance of the ground for the privilage of watching the fireworks even though you may not want to participate. I dont know if they tried implimenting it or what happened but this was around 2006.

Gary L 01-01-2015 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35749754)
When my son was in University in Swansea he lived not far from where they would hold fireworks on new year and guy fawlkes. He was informed the last year he lived in student accomedation that the Council were considering charging people who lived within a certain distance of the ground for the privilage of watching the fireworks even though you may not want to participate. I dont know if they tried implimenting it or what happened but this was around 2006.

That'll be a bit like getting everybody to recycle and make it fun and exciting.
and then making it compulsory and have to pay for it now.

or like the council man walking down your street everyday between the hours of 9 and 11am singing Justin Bieber songs for the last 2 years for free.
and now telling people they've got to start paying him now because you're able to hear him from your house.

Kursk 01-01-2015 17:21

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35749745)
the music montage sucked last night.

Mind the.................................................. ..gap.

Pierre 01-01-2015 19:35

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As long as it currently funded by London and will continue to be funded by London, then I couldn't give a toss how they finance it.

Gary L 01-01-2015 19:59

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35749801)
As long as it currently funded by London and will continue to be funded by London, then I couldn't give a toss how they finance it.

Exactly.

a lot of people couldn't even give a toss about London itself.

Arthurgray50@blu 01-01-2015 21:32

Re: New Year Revellers Face London Fireworks Charge
 
I went to see the Millenuim firework display, and to be honest the display hasn't changed much.

Its a total rip off Boris, to charge for it. I look at several ways that this can be paid for - we get charged for the Congestion Charge, which doesn't change about the way traffic use central London

And the other way is the amount Westminster Council make out of Parking, and traffic fines in London.

Total rip off.

Gary L 01-01-2015 21:57

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It's because people just accept it Arthur. they will carry on charging for everything as long as you have people who say it's only a couple of quid so stop moaning.

we have become a society of anything and everything will be charged for. will be doubled in price. will keep rising. and will be paid accordingly.

the day will soon come when we will willingly pay to walk the streets.
double rates for daylight hours.

Stephen 01-01-2015 21:58

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As you have been told before Arthur, many towns and cities charge for New Year vents now.

There are many reasons why a small charge is fine. It pays for all the extra staff, it pays for the clean up after the event and also goes towards funding the event itself, rather than it coming out of other funds or having to reserve a budget. It also helps keep it organised better and limits numbers putting less of a strain on transport networks.

Stop whinging. Its not meant to have changed because they charge.

Gary L 01-01-2015 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35749826)
As you have been told before Arthur, many towns and cities charge for New Year vents now.

There are many reasons why a small charge is fine. It pays for all the extra staff, it pays for the clean up after the event and also goes towards funding the event itself, rather than it coming out of other funds or having to reserve a budget. It also helps keep it organised better and limits numbers putting less of a strain on transport networks.

Stop whinging. Its not meant to have changed because they charge.

There was a little girl on the news last night. she was crying because she couldn't go inside the 'payzone' to watch the fireworks.
she said her mummy has no money for her and her brother to go in. only the rich people are allowed to watch it now.

Pierre 01-01-2015 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35749822)
Its a total rip off Boris, to charge for it. I look at several ways that this can be paid for - we get charged for the Congestion Charge, which doesn't change about the way traffic use central London

are you suggesting using the congestion charge to pay for it? Fine by me.
Quote:

And the other way is the amount Westminster Council make out of Parking, and traffic fines in London.
.
again, fine by me.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35749825)
It's because people just accept it Arthur. they will carry on charging for everything .

well it has to be paid for by somebody.

Let the people of London decide, free fireworks for all paid for by a few more quid on their council tax.

Or charge all the tourists to attend



Hmmmmm................

I mean it's not even an issue is it?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35749828)
There was a little girl on the news last night. she was crying because she couldn't go inside the 'payzone' to watch the fireworks.
she said her mummy has no money for her and her brother to go in. only the rich people are allowed to watch it now.

Well the choice is clear then, stop the little girls tears by accepting, let's say, £20 on your council tax bill?

Gary L 01-01-2015 22:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35749829)
Well the choice is clear then, stop the little girls tears by accepting, let's say, £20 on your council tax bill?

Yeh. but make it £25 and still charge the entrance fee.

it can be like the bin money then. we were already paying for it. but started being charged separately as well afterwards.

that way people will understand why they're charging for it easier.

Stephen 01-01-2015 23:58

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Bin money?? What on earth are you talking about. Bin collection is part of the council tax.

Better the event be paid for in part by those attending rather than everyone eh?

Mountain out of a molehill really.

Gary L 02-01-2015 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35749840)
Bin money?? What on earth are you talking about. Bin collection is part of the council tax.

I know. you try telling them that.


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