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Media Boy UK 04-09-2014 17:07

Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
A woman is thought to have been beheaded in the garden of a north London house.

The victim was found at an address in Nightingale Road, Edmonton, at about 13:00 BST, police said

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29068391

Osem 04-09-2014 18:01

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
It'll be interesting to find out what sort of lunatic was responsible for this but I have my suspicions.

RIP to the victim whoever she was.

heero_yuy 04-09-2014 18:14

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35726489)
It'll be interesting to find out what sort of lunatic was responsible for this but I have my suspicions.

RIP to the victim whoever she was.

Place your bets on someone of Somali origin.

RIP

Osem 04-09-2014 18:22

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35726493)
Place your bets on someone of Somali origin.

RIP

More 'cultural enrichment' you reckon then?

The way things are going, Somalia will be a safer place than some parts of the UK.

heero_yuy 04-09-2014 18:31

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35726495)
More 'cultural enrichment' you reckon then?

Decades of open borders. What can we expect from a medieval religion?

Mr Angry 04-09-2014 18:33

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35726495)
The way things are going, Somalia will be a safer place than some parts of the UK.

Fear mongering and ignorance at its worst.

heero_yuy 04-09-2014 18:40

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35726502)
Fear mongering and ignorance at its worst.

Perhaps when your own kith and kin are beheaded on our streets by exteamists you'll reflect on that statement.

Hugh 04-09-2014 18:54

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
We don't know if that is the case yet....

In fact, the police stated they are confident that it is not terrorist related.

Osem 04-09-2014 18:55

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35726503)
Perhaps when your own kith and kin are beheaded on our streets by exteamists you'll reflect on that statement.

Yup. Typical PC garbage. In its own way it's just another form of stereotyping and intolerance towards anyone who dares to criticise what's been allowed to happen right under our noses. I highly recommend the ignore list... ;)

Mr Angry 04-09-2014 19:02

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35726503)
Perhaps when your own kith and kin are beheaded on our streets by exteamists you'll reflect on that statement.

Perhaps. But until such time as that happens I'll continue to call ill founded comparisons with African countries for what it is. "Fear mongering and ignorance at its worst".

The very fact that people talk about this in terms of "what's been allowed to happen right under our noses" shows just how delusional and paranoid some people have become.

Hugh 04-09-2014 19:05

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
A point of information.

Millions of people in Somali have been displaced, and half a million have died in the internal strife, with the latest figures stating that over 3,000 died because of these conflicts in 2013.

Are we seriously stating that parts of the UK will have worse conditions/numbers of casualties?

Mr Angry 04-09-2014 19:08

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35726514)
A point of information. Millions of people in Somali have been displaced, and half a million have died in the internal strife, with the latest figures stating that over 3,000 died because of these conflicts in 2013. Are we seriously stating that parts of the UK will have worse conditions/numbers of casualties?

Apparently so.

Osem 04-09-2014 19:12

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35726514)
A point of information.

Millions of people in Somali have been displaced, and half a million have died in the internal strife, with the latest figures stating that over 3,000 died because of these conflicts in 2013.

Are we seriously stating that parts of the UK will have worse conditions/numbers of casualties?

No not seriously. Thought that much was obvious... ;)

Hugh 04-09-2014 19:15

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Good to know...

Osem 04-09-2014 19:16

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35726521)
Good to know...

Thought you did...

broadbandking 04-09-2014 19:22

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Can't wait for the muslims lover to hi jack this thread.

Hugh 04-09-2014 19:40

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
'Muslim lovers' - 'those who don't jump to conclusions on insufficient information'....

This act is barbaric, but we don't have enough information to say the reasons why it was done - not that that stops anyone....

---------- Post added at 20:40 ---------- Previous post was at 20:39 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35726522)
Thought you did...

Mr Irony's smilie/sig was not noticeable by his presence.... ;)

Maggy 04-09-2014 19:59

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
I see the Alf Garnetts of the site have jumped on this thread..

Gary L 04-09-2014 20:14

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35726507)
We don't know if that is the case yet.... In fact, the police stated they are confident that it is not terrorist related.

I don't get that bit. does that mean that it might be a Muslim that did it. but the woman was of an opposing religion but he didn't do it because of that? or are they just saying they don't think a Muslim did it?

only a seriously deranged person beheads someone.

---------- Post added at 21:14 ---------- Previous post was at 21:05 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35726540)
I see the Alf Garnetts of the site have jumped on this thread..

What you got to say about the subject then Alf?

Pierre 04-09-2014 20:46

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
More details coming out.

Woman = 82

Arrested man = 25

martyh 04-09-2014 20:50

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35726510)
Perhaps. But until such time as that happens I'll continue to call ill founded comparisons with African countries for what it is. "Fear mongering and ignorance at its worst".

The very fact that people talk about this in terms of "what's been allowed to happen right under our noses" shows just how delusional and paranoid some people have become.

As much as some would like it to be a terrorist attack by some Jihadi crackpot just so their prejudice against Muslims can be justified it looks like a random attack on an 82 yr old Italian woman by a 25yr old psycho with a knife who is currently recovering in hospital from injuries sustained during his arrest


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29068391

Gary L 04-09-2014 20:57

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35726550)
As much as some would like it to be a terrorist attack by some Jihadi crackpot just so their prejudice against Muslims can be justified it looks like a random attack on an 82 yr old Italian woman by a 25yr old psycho with a knife who is currently recovering in hospital from injuries sustained during his arrest http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29068391

I still don't understand. what's with all the 'terrorist' thing? because the police have mentioned the word terrorist. then we can only assume that it is a Muslim that's done it. remember. the police started with the terrorist thing. but even if it is a Muslim and he didn't do it for (terrorist) reasons. how does that change anything?

Russ 04-09-2014 21:08

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35726553)
I still don't understand. what's with all the 'terrorist' thing? because the police have mentioned the word terrorist. then we can only assume that it is a Muslim that's done it. remember. the police started with the terrorist thing.

Perhaps there have been some stories in the news recently where so-called Muslims have been cutting off heads?

Gary L 04-09-2014 21:29

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
I know that.
but just because the Muslim didn't do it as a terrorist thing. a Muslim still beheaded someone in the UK.

nomadking 04-09-2014 22:13

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
The Telegraph
Quote:

One line of inquiry for detectives is now understood to
be whether the man had been inspired by recent footage of the Isil beheadings of two US journalists in Syria. Locals last night claimed the arrested man had converted to Islam last year.

Gary L 04-09-2014 22:19

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
When you hear of people that have converted to Islam (only Islam) and they do mad things like this. you automatically think mental issues. there's no sanity involved. it's all down to what your brain is telling you.

and their brains are telling them it's given up.

nomadking 04-09-2014 22:57

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Anyone would think that there aren't any instances of groups of "original" Muslims that have gone out with the intention of killing somebody at random.
Case 1
Quote:

Justice Sir Edwin Jowitt QC told the killers: "Make no mistake, this was a very grave case of murder. You three put your heads together with a purpose of arming yourselves and attacking an innocent man you might find by chance simply because he was of a different race to yourself
Case 2
Quote:

Asian gang members who boasted they had killed a white man have been found guilty of murder.
Case 3?
Quote:

Imran Rashid, 29, of Madeley Street, Raja Jeelani, 26, of Depot Street, Robuel Islam, 25, of Loudon Street, and brothers Usman and Rizwan Ahmed, 19 and 23, were found guilty after a trial.
There are probably more cases out there, but they don't tend to be on the national news.

denphone 05-09-2014 05:04

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35726526)
Can't wait for the muslims lover to hi jack this thread.

There is good and evil in every race.....

Derek 05-09-2014 07:32

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35726571)
Anyone would think that there aren't any instances of groups of "original" Muslims that have gone out with the intention of killing somebody at random.

Or, more likely, perhaps the attacker had mental health issues and religion has bugger all to do with it.

Quote:

A drug addict suffering from schizophrenia has been found guilty of murder, after decapitating a British woman in an attack in a shop on the Spanish island of Tenerife.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-guilty-murder

Quote:

A MENTAL health patient has been found guilty of a horrific Bexleyheath knife murder.
The unemployed Greenwich resident nearly decapitated Mrs Hodkin with a stolen meat cleaver
http://m.newsshopper.co.uk/news/1021..._knife_murder/

Quote:

Paranoid schizophrenic who believed he was being persecuted by gangs beheaded flatmate in 'frenzied attack'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...headed-2876630

Not as sexy as blaming Muslims and jumping to all manner of conclusions I know.

I guess we will know more as the Police investigation unfolds but remember your far more likely to be injured by a UK citizen suffering from mental health problems than in any form of terror attack.

Gary L 05-09-2014 08:03

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35726600)
Not as sexy as blaming Muslims and jumping to all manner of conclusions I know.

LOL Derek you can go so OTT sometimes.
telling people that they think it's sexy what they're saying :)

Talking of sexy.
I wonder if these Muslims who do this kind of thing regard it as being sexy. or it's just a simple case of that they're mental.

Osem 05-09-2014 08:14

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35726530)
Mr Irony's smilie/sig was not noticeable by his presence.... ;)

I couldn't find one for hyperbole... ;)

heero_yuy 05-09-2014 08:22

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Another one for the peaceful religeon:

Quote:

"He converted to Islam around April time. One of his parents was Muslim and he grew his beard and talked about praying.

“He would talk about how good it was all the time.

“He put on a robe and prayed even when he was at work."
Paywall linky

His ethnicity has not been revealed.

Derek 05-09-2014 08:45

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

The ranting man, said to be a Muslim convert, attacked 82-year-old Palmira Silva after decapitating cats in a bloody rampage.
Cats? What the?

I know some Muslims thinks dogs are unclean but do they have an issue with felines as well or could he just not tell the difference?

Damien 05-09-2014 08:50

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
According to the Mail he thought the cats stole his lighter...

Quote:

One heard him shout 'The cats have stolen my lighter' as he hacked one animal to pieces.
Lot of accounts, speculation, rumours at the moment.

Derek 05-09-2014 08:59

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35726622)
According to the Mail he thought the cats stole his lighter...

:nutter:

---------- Post added at 09:59 ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 ----------

As a side note that article has reinforced my hatred for the Daily Mail.

Quote:

Nightingale Road is a typical suburban street in the London Borough of Edmonton. The average house value on there is £310,000, while it is £275,000 in the local N9 postcode area
That's a caption in the story, really who gives a flying what house prices are when the local lunatic has gone on a rampage and murdered someone?

Damien 05-09-2014 09:07

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Probably in case the house prices go down....

Gary L 05-09-2014 09:10

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
They will go down now. the nutter's given the area a bad rep.

rhyds 05-09-2014 09:20

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35726624)
:nutter:

---------- Post added at 09:59 ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 ----------

As a side note that article has reinforced my hatred for the Daily Mail.



That's a caption in the story, really who gives a flying what house prices are when the local lunatic has gone on a rampage and murdered someone?

That's because it lets your average Daily Fail reader to apply the correct level of outrage. If an area is cheap then "those sorts of people" live there and there's no problem...

Pierre 05-09-2014 09:32

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Not so much evidence of the violence of Islam, more like another episode on how Care in the Community puts the population at risk.

I can think of several random killings off the top of my head due to mentalists not Islamists.

Don't get me wrong, My views remain the same in regards to Islam. But this cannot be attributed to that.

Ignitionnet 05-09-2014 09:49

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35726600)
Or, more likely, perhaps the attacker had mental health issues...

That would explain the conversion to Islam.

Gary L 05-09-2014 09:55

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35726638)
That would explain the conversion to Islam.

It looks that way.

richard s 05-09-2014 10:24

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Police have also shot a man dead for trying to break into a house with a knife and threatened to attack a woman.

http://news.sky.com/story/1330486/ma...knife-incident

nomadking 05-09-2014 10:24

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35726600)
Or, more likely, perhaps the attacker had mental health issues and religion has bugger all to do with it.

I was pointing out that there are instances of GROUPS of Muslims, supposedly WITHOUT mental issues that set out to kill somebody at random. Just because a Muslim commits a killing at random, doesn't mean they must have mental issues.

richard s 05-09-2014 10:35

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
I think this mother had mental issues.

Hugh 05-09-2014 10:46

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35726654)
I was pointing out that there are instances of GROUPS of Muslims, supposedly WITHOUT mental issues that set out to kill somebody at random. Just because a Muslim commits a killing at random, doesn't mean they must have mental issues.

Doesn't the same argument apply to non-Muslims?

Russ 05-09-2014 13:00

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Doesn't bring out the same 'emotion' in people though.

Taf 05-09-2014 13:02

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Daily Fail has a pic and has named the suspect.

heero_yuy 06-09-2014 08:52

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35726493)
Place your bets on someone of Somali origin.

RIP

The CCTV pics in my red top this morning show an individual who certainly is NOT white anglo saxon. :erm:

papa smurf 06-09-2014 09:01

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35726870)
The CCTV pics in my red top this morning show an individual who certainly is NOT white anglo saxon. :erm:

he's a Nigerian according to the mail

heero_yuy 06-09-2014 10:04

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35726873)
he's a Nigerian according to the mail

Close enough. I claim my £5. :D

Russ 06-09-2014 10:05

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Does it make much difference?

Stuart 06-09-2014 18:20

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35726624)
:nutter:

---------- Post added at 09:59 ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 ----------

As a side note that article has reinforced my hatred for the Daily Mail.



That's a caption in the story, really who gives a flying what house prices are when the local lunatic has gone on a rampage and murdered someone?

It's a story in the Mail.. It seems to be almost a rule that every story in the mail has to make out foreigners are bad, mention house prices, be about a miracle cure or talk about how a woman looks.

I sometimes think their ideal story would be about a beautiful woman scientist who invented a miracle cure, the manufacture of which was outsourced to foreigners, who then used the profits to buy up large stretches of any given town, thus raising the property prices.

TheDaddy 07-09-2014 19:37

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35726628)
They will go down now. the nutter's given the area a bad rep.

But he has sorted the cat problem out, swings and roundabouts :erm:

Hugh 08-09-2014 21:18

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35726883)
Close enough. I claim my £5. :D

Somalia and Nigeria are nearly 2,600 miles apart - England is closer to Turkey than that.... ;)

heero_yuy 09-09-2014 07:45

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35727559)
Somalia and Nigeria are nearly 2,600 miles apart - England is closer to Turkey than that.... ;)

Only physically. It's a culture thing. ;)

Osem 09-09-2014 09:06

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Distance schmistance! You don't need to travel far in London to come across folks, cultures, languages, beliefs, practices, prejudices and inter-community problems from all around the globe. ;)

peanut 09-09-2014 19:26

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Is it wrong to think of the poor cat above everything else?

Derek 23-06-2015 15:08

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
In a verdict you could have seen coming a mile off the attackers been found not guilty because he is/was insane.

There is some remarkable video from the met helicopter of his rampage.

http://news.met.police.uk/videos/foo...-the-air-19188

joglynne 23-06-2015 16:06

Re: Woman 'beheaded' in Edmonton garden.
 
Very scary video, I hope that he will be sent to Broadmoor which should ensure that he remains incarcerated for a longer time than most sentences handed out for murder.


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