Sky sports 1 hd some weird shape
 

Wtf is this on sky sports 1 hd

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It's the equivalent symbol to the beer glass on business Sky to show a residential service.

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Wondered what it was, its on sky sports 2 as well.

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Its on all Sky Sports channels.

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Just thinking the same yesterday lol.

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No sooner we manage to get those ruddy numbers moved to a less prominent position now they are placing other symbols now on my screen, I mean it ain't catchphrase and I pay good money to watch these channels. Surely there must be a better way for them to detect all this. Does sky users have these symbols as well?

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Say what you see... YOU'RE RIGGGGHHTTTT!!

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A little bird tells me that this is being done as part of the deal to work more closely together, with VM helping Sky to try and minimise the projected loss of future income from Sky Sports.

These include security measures to try and counter card sharing, using a VM domestic subscription in commercial premises etc.

VM customers who have subscribed to Sky Sports in the past or have indicated an interest in the channels may be contacted by a third party company with incentives to subscribe again- hint, if you are called by them and are interested, don't accept straight away, they have a number of discounts at their disposal which increase to roughly half price ;)

Some Sky channels have been moved on the VM EPG by mutual agreement.

In return for this co-operation, VM get to offer SS3 HD, SS4 HD, F1 HD and SSN HD to their customers with unprecedented access to Sky funded promotions.

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well whoever it is needs to come up with a better solution, at least put them all in the same corner, or how about if your targetting an area, have a list of who has/has not subscribed and when you go in actually ask the propieter of the place rather than relying on symbols/numbers.

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It is in the same corner as the pint glass isn't it? Also UPC Ireland have had their own version since last year in the same place http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2056912183

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I meant in the same corner as the numbers i.e. top right not bottom right. When you watching the cricket it appeared right next to teh scorebar and once you know its there its a little distracting.

My original point of coming up with a solution that doesnt involve the need to add numbers/symbols or any other additional graphic to what can be an overcrowded on-display graphics needs to be found. BBC manages to do it with licences so no reason why it cant be done here

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You'd need to talk to Sky about it then as it's their requirements that these things are on there - I'm pretty sure that the new graphic is from their end.

As for the BBC thing, completely different situation. The BBC physically know where each property that does / does not have a TV licence is at. The on screen numbers help Sky identify who's subscription the channel is coming from, which may not be the same physical place as where it's being shown.

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As a virgin customer you know my address and what I subscribe to, I guess its the same for Sky and they must record on their system to see who has licence to public broadcast, Judging these are people whose duty is to find out who is doing this illegally it shouldnt be too hard to produce a list of the area that you (and by that I mean those who job it is) are targetting and if you were in doubt you would ask to see the propieter credential including contracts/ licence to prove he can broadcast publically. I just feel there must be a better alternative to this otherwise you going to start getting numbers on sky movies and Sky Atlantic soon (for sky customers)

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The point of the security features is to allow Sky to identify where the feed is coming from without tipping off anyone who may be acting illegally.

Once they have the feed identifier, they'll then either consult their own systems, or get Virgin Media to identify the subscriber.

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I would imagine the numbers are the broadcasters working with the leagues , the numbers don't just appear on Sky Sports they also appear on BT Sport as for the other icon I've never noticed that on the Sky platform.

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I thought that when VM went to Nag3 it stopped all the illegal viewing? Or did I read wrong?

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it did but this is to stop people streaming there feed online

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Ok cheers for that:)

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No, there is still a community of people stealing the service and vendors openly selling the equipment to do so.

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I thought that nag3 was not crackable?

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It is very secure but there are other methods of stealing the service.

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The shape is very annoying, I pay good money like others. I have been on VIP for a number of years...Why don't they put the shape next to the Sky Sports logo?

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As the Sky Sports logo is present in all feeds, not just VM, and the heart is also present over the adverts, I presume they are inserted by different systems. Sky frequently the Sky Sports logo about, so it would be difficult to coordinate the two.

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Thank you! I don't care who it is responsible (sky, virgin) but some common sense should prevail here like whatever numbers,symbols they need all in the same place

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I prefer the heart to the numbers we saw last season, I've been with VM since the telewest days and I've got no problem with it and if it's stops people watching illegal streams that's even better

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The numbers still appear this season

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The heart won't replace the numbers.

Essentially the heart is for the FA Rights Gestapo who visit pubs up and down the country. If they see a game on without a Sky pint symbol (but with Sky Sports branding) or with a VM heart symbol then they know the pub is using a consumer subscription that is not intended to be used for a public performance.

If the pub is using a foreign satellite service they can't do a thing, thankfully.

The numbers are in an effort to identify people streaming games on the internet. The lovely FA people (who are also hunting down the dastardly Viners and Giffers) will find a stream they think is originating from the UK and if they see the numbers they make a note and inform virgin or sky who can then identify the subscriber. Not sure if they can request the numbers be activated or they just have to get lucky, I'd assume the former.

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I think the problem with pubs is that Sky charge too much.. A friend of mine used to manage my local at work, and she says that the increase in customers when Sky were showing a match just about covered the cost of the subscription. It also caused a rise in complaints because, of course, everyone would go to the bar during half time or before/after games, which caused the service to slow to a crawl during those times.

So, she cancelled the subscription and only uses the system that has been installed during big international games, and only if they are on ITV or BBC.

Having said that, the pub is always fairly busy on Friday or Saturday, the bar is small enough that it's not really feasible to have more than 4 bar staff on duty at any given time, and they normally have 4 working on Fridays and Saturdays anyway.

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I think it is only really worth it for the bigger pubs. Frankly, a subscription to BT might be more appropriate as it is a lot cheaper. They show fewer games, but this must be better than making a loss on the whole thing.

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Really doesn't bother me if I'm honest, but I'm struggling to understand the need for the heart. Surely if there if it is a business subscription then the pint will be on display. The lack of a pint glass is therefore enough to demonstrate that it isn't. I don't see how an extra symbol adds any further certainty?

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It seems to me nuts to look at Virgin or Sky customers for the internet streams most of it is originating in America on NBC sports, who have every game available, are the Premier league going to stop the service to America to get on top it, are they f**k, too much like cutting their own lucrative throats!

I dare I say it but it's suits the other American sports to keep it coming too!

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Can't say it really bothers me , a number in the top right hand corner doesn't really spoil my viewing , if anything BT Sport irritates me the most with that stupid BT Box gimmick they insist on continuing with.

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At first I quite liked the BT Box, but I was watching the Burnley match yesterday, and realised that there is usually such a long gap between an incident and the resulting restart that it's very rarely actually necessary. I'm even getting a bit fed up with Michael Owen, despite still believing that when somebody with his experience has an opinion it's worth hearing.

And because of the BT graphics being at the bottom of the screen (which I still don't mind, for now) the security number is more noticeable than it is with Sky, and the funny heart shape is barely noticeable. In the pub it's a huge pint glass and with NowTV it's a solid white square so the funny shape is nothing.

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they do it to differentiate platforms as now tv has the rectangle.

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wow..a 5 year old thread

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A 'better late than never' response from you, johnnos! :p:

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Its easy to hide the beer glass by putting a beer mat over the screen, you need a random shape in a random place to detect where is the fraud is originating from.

Many services that are illegal permanently blur the bottom right of the screen, this means the detection has to move around.