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truthspeaker 17-06-2014 21:32

Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Netgear WNDA3200 only connects at 48Mb. how can i make it to 300Mb?
the wireless range is excellent. full 5 bars

WINDOWS 8.1 Pro
Superhub 2 setting:-
Wireless Frequency 2.4GHz I tick Up to 300Mbps (best for wireless performance)
untick OBSS

if Netgear WNDA3200 connects at 48Mb then i can't get 100Mb download speed i only get 20Mb download speed. can anyone help me?

Driver Provider:- Qualcomm Atheros Communications Inc.
Driver Date:- 15/10/2012
Driver Version:- 10.0.0.20
Digital Signer:- Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher

Advanced:-

802.11b Preamble:- long and short
Network address:- Not Present
Power Save Legacy Algorithm:- PS Poll
Power save Policy (Background):- Legacy Power Save
Power save Policy (Best Effort):- Legacy Power Save
Power save Policy (Video):- Legacy Power Save
Power save Policy (voice):- VMM Power Save (UA
Receive Buffers:- 256
Scan:- Valid Interval:- 60
Selective Suspend:- Enabled
Selective Suspend idle time-out in units:- 5
Transmit Buffers:- 256

Events:-
Device USB\VID_0846&PID_9018\12345 was configured.

Driver Name: null
Class Guid: {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
Driver Date:
Driver Version:
Driver Provider:
Driver Section:
Driver Rank: 0x0
Matching Device Id:
Outranked Drivers:
Device Updated: false

The PIT 17-06-2014 22:33

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Have you read the manual??
Some TS tips in there ftp://downloads.netgear.com/pub/netg...UM_25Jan11.pdf

truthspeaker 18-06-2014 01:45

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
virgin media Netgear WNDA3200 manual not helping.

i restart the superhub 2 then its goes back to 300Mbps
then after few days goes back to 54Mbps? and stays like that.

and i get 18Mb or 20Mb download speed when it should be 100Mb download speed.
if the wireless adapter stay on 300Mbps then download speed can reach 105Mb. but if its on 54Mb only 20Mb download.

i check my WiFi status
Connection:-
IPv4 Connectivity:- Internet
IPv6 Connectivity:- No network access
Media state:- Enabled
SSID:- WM virgin media hub
Duration:-
Speed:- 54Mbps
Signal Quality:- 5 full bars

jb66 18-06-2014 09:40

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
you could tell the pc to forget the 2g and only use the 5g ssid. if it moves to 2g, and you have a wireless g device connecting to 2g at the same time the speed drops to 54

truthspeaker 18-06-2014 14:20

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Wireless Frequency 5GHz
Up to 450Mbps (best for wireless performance)

5GHz Signal Quality is 4 bars

WNDA3200 connects to 5GHz at 300Mbps download speed is 80Mb download, but web pages are running to slow and sometimes looks like it freezes on 5GHz.
on 2.4GHz web pages run faster.

how to i get 2.4GHz to connect at 300Mbps ?

General Maximus 18-06-2014 15:48

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
by setting the router to N only for 2.4ghz. As JB said, if multiple devices share the 2.4ghz band and you have an older device or phone which connects at G, then the router has to run all the devices on that band at that speed, even if they were previously connect at N/150/300/whatever

truthspeaker 18-06-2014 21:34

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
thats funny because i have a 2nd computer using TP-LINK TL-WDN3200 N600 Wireless adapter and it connects at 300Mbps to 2.4GHz

and the 1st computer with Netgear WNDA3200 only connects at 48Mbps or 54Mbps.
so can't be all the same.

both computer running at the same time with different speed. can anyone explain that please

General Maximus 18-06-2014 23:19

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
the technology doesn't work that like. On 2.4ghz all devices run at the speed of the slowest device.

qasdfdsaq 19-06-2014 00:07

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35707780)
you could tell the pc to forget the 2g and only use the 5g ssid. if it moves to 2g, and you have a wireless g device connecting to 2g at the same time the speed drops to 54

Wrong

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35707851)
by setting the router to N only for 2.4ghz. As JB said, if multiple devices share the 2.4ghz band and you have an older device or phone which connects at G, then the router has to run all the devices on that band at that speed, even if they were previously connect at N/150/300/whatever

Wrong

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35708014)
the technology doesn't work that like. On 2.4ghz all devices run at the speed of the slowest device.

Wrong.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mi...ss+performance

300Mbps doesn't normally work for long on 2.4Ghz because the Superhub has received a firmware update from VM that (shock horror) actually makes it obey WiFi guidelines (which state 300Mbps should automatically shut off when it detects other networks in range)

General Maximus 19-06-2014 00:24

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35708047)

thanks for providing the link to a search result from Cisco which pretty much backs up what I said:

"Wireless N is supposed to be interoperable with Wireless A, B, and G, but it doesn't always work that way. Some older clients might not be able to connect at all, even when the wireless router or APs are in mixed wireless mode. Then when the older clients can connect, they'll slow down the network.

Some clients may take a heavy 80 percent cut in their throughput. To prevent this problem, consider forcing the new APs to use only Wireless N, and keep the old router or APs around to support the old clients.

Although connections among users on the Wireless N router or APs with Wireless G users will still be bottlenecked by the old clients, the throughput cuts on a mixed mode Wireless N router or AP can be much worse"


Although to balance the argument I have just found this as well:

"Unlike in the 802.11B backward compatibility mode, G devices do not impose any performance-degrading behavior on N devices in order for them to be backward compatible. 802.11g devices are able to recognize the 802.11n preamble, and they play nicely in terms of knowing when one or the other is trying to transmit. The preamble tells which modulation scheme will be used, so the N devices can speak N, while G devices can speak G. They don't have to resort to "Esperanto" as with B in order to cooperate.

This means that when the G device is associated but not active, it has no impact at all. When the G devices are active they will consume air time roughly in proportion to the amount of data being transferred. This air time would of course be at the G rate as opposed to the N rate, so in the event that the airwaves are fully saturated (eg by a local file transfer), there would be some reduction in the total Mbps achievable by all devices collectively, but there is no penalty for having the G devices associated"

qasdfdsaq 19-06-2014 01:33

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35708062)
thanks for providing the link to a search result from Cisco which pretty much backs up what I said:

Funny how you picked the 5th result down on that page, one from Cisco Press quoting a third-party article, not by Cisco or any of their own employees. It's a rather non-technical article that doesn't contain any hard information.

Nonetheless notice at no point do they say they will slow down all devices or cause any device other than that which is G only to operate at G speeds. There is undeniably a performance impact but it remains completely untrue that having an older device will force all devices to run at the older device's speeds. This is just a excessively repeated urban myth.

Perhaps you should read one of the other results, slightly more relevant:

Performance Impact of an 802.11n Capable Access Point in a Mixed Environment


Which describes exactly how and why backwards compatibility impacts performance. But notice again that at no point do they say all devices will be stuck at G speeds or that the whole network operates at the speed of the slowest device.

truthspeaker 19-06-2014 13:23

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
exactly. G device can't make N device run slower.
must be something wrong with the Netgear WNDA3200 adapter or maybe the drivers don't support windows 8.1

qasdfdsaq 19-06-2014 20:06

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Unlikely to be the latter, you have a Windows Hardware Quality Labs certified driver installed.

Kushan 19-06-2014 22:15

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35708264)
Unlikely to be the latter, you have a Windows Hardware Quality Labs certified driver installed.

As if that's ever ensured that a driver was stable, secure and not liable to brick the whole system.

qasdfdsaq 19-06-2014 22:21

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
No but it ensures you can't install drivers that are not compatible with your operating system.

Kushan 20-06-2014 09:48

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Depends on your definition of "compatible" I suppose.

qasdfdsaq 20-06-2014 11:21

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Well I'd say "designed to work on" but then you'd argue what's your definition of designed and work...

Kushan 20-06-2014 11:49

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Nah, just that I don't always trust the WHQL certificate to mean much of anything these days. Certainly drivers are better than they were before, but by golly they sure can still **** up spectacularly on occasion.

qasdfdsaq 20-06-2014 12:11

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Yes they can and frequently do. Still doesn't change the original point though. A WHQL certificate prevents you accidentally installing a non-Windows 8 driver on Windows 8.

Kushan 20-06-2014 16:24

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
True, but my point was that a WHQL doesn't always ensure actual compatibility, just intended compatibility.

That is to say, it'll be compatible with the OS, but not necessarily the hardware itself.

qasdfdsaq 20-06-2014 23:22

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Again, depends on your definition of "compatible" I suppose

truthspeaker 23-06-2014 17:55

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
order LB Link adapter 300Mb with external antenna
still have the same problem still at 54Mbps.

if i change the below will it help?
security type:- WPA-Personal
Encryprtion type:- TKIP
Network security key:-

or maybe i got 2 user account on the same computer ?

General Maximus 23-06-2014 18:28

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
dear dear dear. You need to change your security settings to WPA2 Personal with AES. It isn't going to improve your throughput but it will defo make your connection more secure. It doesnt matter how many user accounts you have on your pc. The only time it would make a difference is if multiple users were logged on simultaneously with enough apps and proccesses running that it would impact the performance of your pc. Unless you have got an super sweet NIC, your cpu is still going to look after your networking stuff.

qasdfdsaq 23-06-2014 22:53

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by umbrokhan786 (Post 35709216)
order LB Link adapter 300Mb with external antenna
still have the same problem still at 54Mbps.

if i change the below will it help?
security type:- WPA-Personal
Encryprtion type:- TKIP
Network security key:-

or maybe i got 2 user account on the same computer ?

Your network is set to TKIP? Well that's your problem. TKIP disables 802.11n.

truthspeaker 23-06-2014 22:55

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Encryprtion type:- TKIP i change it to AES. gone from 54Mbps to 150Mbps.
General Maximus your genius but one problem still not 300Mbps.

---------- Post added at 21:55 ---------- Previous post was at 21:54 ----------

Encryprtion type:- TKIP i change it to AES. gone from 54Mbps to 150Mbps.
General Maximus your genius but one problem still not 300Mbps.

qasdfdsaq 23-06-2014 22:55

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35709225)
dear dear dear. You need to change your security settings to WPA2 Personal with AES. It isn't going to improve your throughput

I'd say going from 54Mbps to 300Mbps will improve his throughput.

Remember that 802.11n (well, technically, >54Mbps data rates) are only available with AES and are intentionally disabled with TKIP.

General Maximus 23-06-2014 23:04

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35709284)
Your network is set to TKIP? Well that's your problem. TKIP disables 802.11n.

I thought you was winding him up but I have just checked it and it is true. The stupid thing is that I have done some networking and security certifications and I hae never come across it.

truthspeaker 24-06-2014 01:30

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
few days ago i ring Virgin Media to downgrade my broadband from 100 to 50 because my adapter was messed up.
now i get download speed over 50.
if i upgrade to 100Mb download should at least get 98. adapter at 150Mbps

going to try changing the drivers tomorrow see if i can get to 300Mbps

AndyCalling 24-06-2014 01:44

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Try this:

On the Shub2 wireless settings, set 2.4Ghz mode to 144Mbs and 5Ghz mode to 450Mbps. Turn Greenfield off on both. Set the 5Ghz channel to 'Auto Compatibility' and the 2.4Ghz channel to the clearest in your area. You will get full 300meg when close on 5Ghz and the best practical speed at range via 2.4Ghz.

truthspeaker 24-06-2014 14:07

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install it.

B-Link RTL8191SU Wireless LAN 802.11n USB 2.0 Network Adapter

The hash for the file is not present in the specified catalog file. The file is likely corrupt or the victim of tampering.

If you know the manufacturer of your device, you can visit its website and check the support section for the driver software.

can't install the new lastest driver 2014-03-05.

the adapter made in china ? and drivers might be made China aswell?
anyone know why i can't install the drivers ?

qasdfdsaq 24-06-2014 14:27

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35709291)
I thought you was winding him up but I have just checked it and it is true. The stupid thing is that I have done some networking and security certifications and I hae never come across it.

I guess that entitles me to say:

Noob.

:D


---------- Post added at 13:27 ---------- Previous post was at 13:18 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by umbrokhan786 (Post 35709392)
windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install it.

B-Link RTL8191SU Wireless LAN 802.11n USB 2.0 Network Adapter

The hash for the file is not present in the specified catalog file. The file is likely corrupt or the victim of tampering.

If you know the manufacturer of your device, you can visit its website and check the support section for the driver software.

can't install the new lastest driver 2014-03-05.

the adapter made in china ? and drivers might be made China aswell?
anyone know why i can't install the drivers ?

Because if the card looks anything like this:

http://www.dx.com/p/lb-link-bl-lw06-...e-black-213342

Then it's a 150Mbps adapter and those are the wrong drivers (or it's fake and mislabelled)

truthspeaker 24-06-2014 14:45

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
I disable driver signature enforcement in windows 8 and install drivers its still at 150Mbps.
the drivers are right its mislabelled.
why did they mislabelled the adapter for ? China make fake adapter?

i re-inserted Netgear WNDA3200 wireless adapter
and changed the setting
security type:- WPA2-PERSONAL
encryption type:- AES
now running at 300Mbps.

General Maximus 24-06-2014 15:03

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
where are you trying to install the driver from? Is it already on your pc, downloaded through windows update or have you fetched it yourself from the manufacturers website?

truthspeaker 24-06-2014 15:08

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
windows 8.1 automatically install the drivers for me.
i tried the web site LB link web site download the drivers but won't install. i had to disable driver signature enforcement. then the drivers work.

i also tried www.realtek.com download drivers from there also. still at 150Mbps

RTL8191SU Realtek web site does say it runs at 300Mbps. must be something wrong with the adapter or its fake

qasdfdsaq 26-06-2014 00:53

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by umbrokhan786 (Post 35709426)
windows 8.1 automatically install the drivers for me.
i tried the web site LB link web site download the drivers but won't install. i had to disable driver signature enforcement. then the drivers work.

i also tried www.realtek.com download drivers from there also. still at 150Mbps

RTL8191SU Realtek web site does say it runs at 300Mbps. must be something wrong with the adapter or its fake

The chip supports 300Mbps in one direction only and it still requires two antenna to do so. Most manufacturers are too lazy and only connect one antenna.

thenry 15-08-2015 16:26

Re: Virgin Media WNDA3200 wireless adapter
 
What are the latest drivers available for this VM branded WNDA3200 adapter?


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