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Osem 30-04-2014 20:42

Gerry Adams arrested
 
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Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams has been arrested by Northern Ireland police in connection with the 1972 murder of Jean McConville.

Mrs McConville, a 37-year-old widow and mother of 10, was abducted from her flat in the Divis area of west Belfast and shot by the IRA.

Her body was recovered from a beach in County Louth in 2003.

Speaking before his arrest on Wednesday, Mr Adams said he was "innocent of any part" in the murder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27232731

Mr Pharmacist 30-04-2014 21:06

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I just hope her family finally get justice. Though I suspect Adams will squirm his way out of it, it's what he does. Satan has a very hot poker with Adams name on it waiting for him.

Derek 01-05-2014 05:41

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Obviously as he has never been a member of the IRA :rolleyes: he will be fully cooperative in the interview...

Mr Pharmacist 01-05-2014 10:22

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weenie 01-05-2014 13:20

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Let's hope that Jean McConville’s family and children get justice for her appalling murder.

Osem 01-05-2014 15:07

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Sinn Féin's Martin McGuinness claims Gerry Adams' arrest is due to a "dark side" within policing and is a "deliberate attempt to influence the outcome of elections" later this month.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27244878

Yeah that'll be it...

Hom3r 01-05-2014 21:09

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One of her sons was talking on R4 this morning, he said he knows how took his mother but will tell no one because he fears for the safety of his family.

Osem 02-05-2014 07:08

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Yes I heard him interviewed yesterday saying the same thing. It must be truly awful being in that situation and never knowing who might be going to call one evening. Let's hope the police get to the bottom of this and those involved are brought to justice.

Osem 02-05-2014 16:58

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Police asking for more time to question Adams:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27260040

Mr Pharmacist 02-05-2014 17:23

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A new mural has today been painted of him on the Falls Road. "peacemaker, leader, visionary" http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-30239341.html :sick:

RizzyKing 02-05-2014 17:32

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Despite what some may want Northern Ireland is not going to be another south africa the pain and hurt runs way too deep and people cannot move on because as in the mcconville case families know who was responsible and have no justice. Justice has to be served on all sides before a true peace and reconciliation can take place. NI is a beautiful country with some of the friendliest people i've met they deserve peace but sadly people and places rarely get what they deserve.

weenie 02-05-2014 17:33

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Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35694653)
A new mural has today been painted of him on the Falls Road. "peacemaker, leader, visionary" http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-30239341.html :sick:

Shocking ... peacemaker yeah right tell that to the family of Mrs McConville and goodness know's how many other's.

RichardCoulter 02-05-2014 19:06

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I thought that part of the Good Friday Agreement was for both sides to put the atrocities behind them and move forward? :confused:

Perhaps this only covered certain cases...

I can understand why the familes of those that have been wronged want justice, but I fear that it could reignite the troubles and even more people will be injured and killed.

For the greater good of everybody and future peace, it might be time for the authorities to consider leaving the ugly past behind.

Gary L 02-05-2014 19:27

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35694669)
For the greater good of everybody and future peace, it might be time for the authorities to consider leaving the ugly past behind.

Exactly.

there's going to be a reaction no matter what. and I believe dragging the past up will provoke a reaction.

whether it be intentional or just one of those things.

Mr Pharmacist 02-05-2014 19:58

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Maybe a couple of generations down the line you might see the situation change to the one which the Good Friday agreement was hoping to achieve. In the meantime it's going to continue to simmer away. The IRA are still active in an ever changing guise. Not to the level they once were, but still as dangerous as ever. I don't think that the decommissioning of weapons was ever completely adhered to by both sides. The main communities, to an extent, feel betrayed by policing and concessions given to each other. I can't even begin to imagine how people feel when they see individuals that they know have ordered, and taken part in, evil atrocities walking about freely and taking up positions in Government. I don't feel we have the right to expect both sides to just shake hands and get on with it. Everyone is entitled to justice, and until certain people are seen to receive it, and not be above it, it'll continue the way it is.

Derek 03-05-2014 07:05

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I might be wrong but did SF not veto the idea of immunity for actions during the troubles in return for honesty because it would give immunity to members of the security forces as well as the balaclava brigades?

If so they can't really complain that the Police are following up apparently credible intelligence from multiple sources regarding an unsolved murder.

Perhaps this will focus minds a little and see that to move on all sides need to take some unpleasant steps.

nomadking 03-05-2014 09:56

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Any threat that if X is done or Y isn't done, that will bring an end to the "peace process" is a terrorism threat and should be treated as such.

Terrorism isn't about an attack, but the threat of future attacks. Any actual attacks are about showing your willingness to commit further acts, if your demands are not given into.

A certain somebody, once said in relation to the IRA, "They haven't gone away, you know.".

Maggy 03-05-2014 10:07

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Well why don't we wait and see what the result is?

Could be that the police are making quite sure that no one can accuse them of not actually investigating as thoroughly as they can..Because they are always having their neutrality called into question by both sides whilst continuing being the target of attacks.

RichardCoulter 04-05-2014 22:22

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Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35694683)
Maybe a couple of generations down the line you might see the situation change to the one which the Good Friday agreement was hoping to achieve. In the meantime it's going to continue to simmer away. The IRA are still active in an ever changing guise. Not to the level they once were, but still as dangerous as ever. I don't think that the decommissioning of weapons was ever completely adhered to by both sides. The main communities, to an extent, feel betrayed by policing and concessions given to each other. I can't even begin to imagine how people feel when they see individuals that they know have ordered, and taken part in, evil atrocities walking about freely and taking up positions in Government. I don't feel we have the right to expect both sides to just shake hands and get on with it. Everyone is entitled to justice, and until certain people are seen to receive it, and not be above it, it'll continue the way it is.

If peace can be maintained I am hoping that, as generations are born and die, that it will become easier for them all to put the past behind them.

As an example, we are now no longer enemies with Germany and it is considered impolite to mention the wars when conversing with German people.

I'm not sure when relations completely normalised after the fall of Hitler but it can't have been that long, even though both sides must have had their grievances and lost loved ones.

I have friends in Belfast from both sides, but even to this day, some would never speak to each other unless they had to eg in a work situation.

rhyds 05-05-2014 08:44

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It has to be remembered that the Good Friday Agreement is (in the greater scheme of things) not that old at all. I'm under 30 and can still remember a time when hearing an NI accent on the evening news meant there had been a bombing/raid somewhere.

A lot of the old divisions are still very close to the surface, be it the "peace" walls or the fact that children from both sides of the community still go to separate schools and don't get to know each other.

It will take time, but I really do believe that the people and the politicians want to see NI move on in a safe and prosperous way.

Osem 21-09-2016 13:12

Gerry Adams accused of sanctioning killing
 
No arrest this time, just an accusation at this point:

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A man who says he was a former IRA and Sinn Féin member turned British agent has claimed Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams sanctioned the killing of Denis Donaldson.
He made the allegation to BBC NI's Spotlight programme on Tuesday.
Mr Donaldson was shot dead months after admitting in 2005 that he had been an MI5 agent for more than 20 years.
Three years later, the Real IRA said it was responsible. Mr Adams has denied any involvement in the killing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-37425809


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