Firefox 29
 

Firefox 29 is out!

Cnet Link

And your current version will pickup the update shortly...

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God, Firefox 29 is ugly.

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You can tweak it to look better. :)

This may come in handy if you want some of your old bits and bobs back.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...themerestorer/

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First thing I did was to put the title bar back and then go and get the latest 'status4evar' extension.

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It looks more like Chrome with every update.

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I ditched Firefox for Chrome recently. I found FF had become slow at page rendering an was hogging memory. Chrome is running much faster and isn't dragging down my whole system performance.

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just updated my firefox it just my backup browser cant stand chrome

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I hate it, i feel this will make me change my browser :(

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What don't you like about it Sirius?

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I have tried the addons to make it look like the last version but they don't fully do the trick. I am on a mobile connection this weekend so will stick with firefox and then change to chrome when i return

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Thanks very much for the link, I've just installed it. Why did they have to change things just for the sake of it? They would be far better off (and keep more users) if they just restricted themselves to security and essential updates.

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You could always go back to v28 or swap over to Waterfox. :)

Glad my link was useful.

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Its not as bad as I thought it would be judging by this thread.

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If I go back to the older version would there not be a security issue and would it not keep trying to update

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I was using 29 as a beta version so had quite a while to kick it about and once I tweaked it found it to be better than I expected. I am currently running V30 and it again needs some work arounds to make it feel comfortable. I understand V31 could reverse some of the more irritating aspects of V29 but nothing is finalised as yet.

As far as I know Sirius you can go back a version without a problem. I have done so in the past and not been pushed into updating to the current version, but, I do keep both versions on my computer so that I can compare them so maybe this stops Mozilla nagging me.

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I quite like the look of the new UI. The developer tools still aren't a patch on the ones that come with Chrome though.

I'm still having a problem with popping some flash movies out to full screen where the picture doesn't maximise properly. That seems to have crept in with FF28.

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Another vote of thanks from me. Was ready to ditch Firefox after v29 update!

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Thanks joglynne, however this is the final straw for me and firefox, the fact i have to use start using addons to make it work is not good for me. Soon as i am back off holiday tomorrow and i have broadband back i will move to chrome until such time they fix what they have done.

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Chrome is much better for resources than firefox unless you use a fair few plugins/extensions. Chrome deals with extensions in such a way that each one takes up another chrome instance and corresponding memory.

People are gonna stop upgrading their software if companies keep making nasty changes that no one wants. Be it windows 8 with no start bar or the look or firefox, people are wanting ways to go back to a previous version. It's not all about peeps not liking change, some of these changes are not necessary and counter productive.

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Mucking about with the look and feel is always an easier option than working on the core issues. By changing the look many will think it's a new version instead of a facelift. Windows 8 for instance does have some new features i admit but the change of ui was there biggest change and it has for most people been a complete disaster.

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I have to admit i do think Firefox seems to be taking up more and more system resources with each new version.

I have one tab open which is this page and just 3 add ons which are not large and its using 500,000k system resources.

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Oh they removed the menubar in 29? Jeez feels so long ago, I'm on version 31 already.

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Sadly fails to match the performance of Chrome.

I've been back and forth a few times. I used to find Firefox was more reliable in restoring your tabs after a crash than Chrome was, Chrome frequently lost everything although I've since learnt to do a manual restore.

Ironically, since Firefox started looking like Chrome it's also picked up Chrome's penchant for losing all your open tabs when it crashes.

While on every system I've used I find Chrome uses more memory than Firefox, RAM isn't a limitation on any system I use so I tend to run both at the same time.

Right now Firefox is using 1.2GB on my desktop, but Chrome is using about 2.9GB.

On my other machine, Firefox has 28 tabs open and is using 450MB. Chrome has 8 tabs open (on the same site) and is using 700MB. On my laptop, Chrome is using 2.4GB. Firefox 800MB with three time as many tabs open.

On my work iMac (which I'm nowhere near right now) Chrome also sucks memory like a mofo, but Firefox is still single-process... grr!

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Pfft.

Chrome with 62 tabs vs. Firefox with 108 tabs:

http://qasdfdsaq.com/images/misc/lolram.png

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On a laptop at the moment and have Firefox open only on Cableforum and it's using 217Mb of ram and that is with 2 add ons.

Chrome on the other hand with no add ons only on Cableforum uses 190Mb.

Not much difference really.

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I think there's something wrong with your FF install, I've currently got 12 addons, 5 greasmonkey user scripts and this page open and Firefox is only using just over 380K

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Having tried chrome yesterday i decided to remove that arwful new version of firebox and reinstall version 28 instead and will stay with that as long as i can. I cannot see firefox ever getting any better going forward as the new layout just does not work as well as the old layout and they will not change it back you can bet. :(

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If you want to stay back then you can use the ESR versions (latest is 24 I think). I need Firefox for work as apps we use need it (or IE - yuk!).

I agree that v29 is not nice but extensions can bring back some sanity. Seems that Mozilla are trying to accommodate touchy/feely interfaces despite most users sticking with keyboards and mice. (Maybe MS and Ubuntu are paying them :))

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Define "better". Version 31 is already better, in many ways. I don't see any way in which it is worse. The layout is/can be set to be exactly the same as Firefox 3 easily enough.

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How is V31 regarding stability qasdfsaq and are there any appreciable differences over V30 for a non-techie such as myself?

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Well, take this with a grain of salt as it's still alpha, but it seems more stable than V30, as a lot of the frequent freezes and crashes I had with V30 are gone. That said I only used V30 when it was in alpha too, so they may have been fixed by the beta or final.

Memory usage seems to be improved if what people are reporting in this thread are anything to go by, however I haven't directly compared it to V29 or V30 myself because I hadn't checked until people mentioned it here. I rarely check memory usage because I have enough RAM to not really care.

My desktop has 24GB of RAM and Firefox, being 32-bit, will crash itself long before it can even use a quarter of that. That said, I find it still slows down to the point of unusability before you've opened enough tabs to fill up it's maximum memory usage...

... But yes, it did lose all my tabs once recently, following a system-wide bluescreen, which is something I'm used to Chrome doing...

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Thanks qasdfdsaq.

Bluescreen!!!!! For someone who gets a tad shaky https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/05/7.gifat the thought of even opening and typing in a black box the bluescreen has me running for the hills.

Methinks I will stay with V30 for a little longer and leave the alpha version to those with more courage than this timorous beastie. :D

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When Firefox first updated on my computer, it looked so much like Chrome that I had to check it was still using the Gecko engine (it is).

Installed the Classic Theme Restorer but having played around with the extension's options for a while, decided I really don't mind the new UI. The extension has been used for altering the tab appearance a bit but I'm wondering if I might not actually need it.

With 4 extensions installed and 3 tabs open, Firefox 29 is using 266Mb of memory. Out of interest, I totted up how much Chrome uses with all of its separate processes. With the same number of tabs and 5 extensions, it came out at 275Mb. About the same as Firefox.

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Who needs 24Gb of RAM?

I just updated Firefox on my Macbook Pro and have already reverted back. Don't like the new layout at all.

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Quite right, I considered 24, then thought it was too meagre, so I went with 32 ;)

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Indeed i am back on version 28.

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same here 29 looks far to much like chrome cant stand chrome

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People who run a lot of virtual machines as well as memory-heavy professional simulation software.

Hell, even 7zip uses 45GB to compress files with maximum settings.

The side effect being you can do just about anything else you want without worrying about running out. Plus given how cheap it was (when I bought it... costs twice as much today) and the fact a lack of RAM is often the biggest thing slowing down a computer, more is always better.

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I have 8gb on my Macbook Pro with an i7 cpu. Sometimes run vmware with win7.

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Good luck running multiple development or server VMs with 8-16GB RAM each...

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Thanks for the info on Firefox 31. I've been struggling with the idiosyncrasies of Firefox 29 and even more so since version 29.0.1 update running on Win 7HP and Vista Business. Been trying out Firefox 31 on my Win7HP lappy and so far all the issues I was having seem to have been resolved.