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martyh 15-04-2014 19:19

Tethering on VM
 
What's the big deal and why don't Virgin mobile of other providers allow it ?

Our Sky internet has been down for a few days due to a fault at the exchange so my 2 sons and I have used our mobile phones as modems to access the internet on our pc's,laptops and tablets ,one of my sons has received a text message from VM stating his service will be discontinued if he continues to tether ,we don't need to now as the line has been repaired but what is the problem ?

RobboEdin 15-04-2014 23:17

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You may find this thread useful:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1790721

tizmeinnit 15-04-2014 23:26

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you can get around it by using a user agent switcher on chrome

Pauls9 16-04-2014 14:13

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T-mobile are happy for users to tether. They even provide instructions. The only limit is in the fair use policy.

martyh 16-04-2014 17:42

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Originally Posted by Pauls9 (Post 35689373)
T-mobile are happy for users to tether. They even provide instructions. The only limit is in the fair use policy.

i just don't know why providers object:shrug:

Sirius 16-04-2014 18:25

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35689431)
i just don't know why providers object:shrug:

Maybe because some will get a better upload from there tethered phone than there broadband. They would then hit the torrents :LOL:

martyh 16-04-2014 21:06

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35689445)
Maybe because some will get a better upload from there tethered phone than there broadband. They would then hit the torrents :LOL:

funny you should mention that ;)

qasdfdsaq 16-04-2014 21:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35689087)
What's the big deal and why don't Virgin mobile of other providers allow it ?

Because they offer unlimited internet deals and hardly any providers allow unlimited tethering on unlimited data packages.

Sirius 16-04-2014 21:37

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35689509)
funny you should mention that ;)

See what i mean :D

jb66 16-04-2014 21:41

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35689520)
Because they offer unlimited internet deals and hardly any providers allow unlimited tethering on unlimited data packages.

No one does anymore

Ignitionnet 17-04-2014 10:23

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35689431)
i just don't know why providers object:shrug:

Bandwidth is more scarce and expensive on mobile networks. A single user caning a cell can put a big dent in its capacity.

martyh 17-04-2014 15:28

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35689651)
Bandwidth is more scarce and expensive on mobile networks. A single user caning a cell can put a big dent in its capacity.

Still doesn't make sense to me ,i could stream a film on my phone or i could still do it on my phone but connect it to a laptop and watch the film on a bigger screen ,same data allowance is used so why the hassle?

jb66 17-04-2014 18:54

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People who tether use more data, simples

progers 18-04-2014 08:51

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Tesco & O2 allow tethering

Stuart 20-04-2014 14:40

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35689720)
Still doesn't make sense to me ,i could stream a film on my phone or i could still do it on my phone but connect it to a laptop and watch the film on a bigger screen ,same data allowance is used so why the hassle?

While it is true, you are only using what you pay for, bear in mind that it costs them a lot of money for you to use the data so while they can't stop you using what you pay for, they aren't going to make it easier for you to use more data.

In fact, consumer ISPs base their business models on the assumption that most of the time, most of their users will not be using what they pay for. Truly unlimited internet costs a lot more than we, as consumers, pay for our unlimited internet plans.

Tethering is one thing that gets disabled simply because no matter what speed your internet connection and how much data your plan allows you to download, it will be a lot easier to download a lot of data on a laptop or PC than it is on a mobile phone or tablet. For example, if you do a fresh install of Windows or OSX, you will download around 1 gig of updates to get it up to data. Combine that with the fact that they can disable tethering and should a customer complain, they can legitimately argue that they are offering the service they advertise.

Maggy 20-04-2014 14:42

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Vodafone allow tethering..but then I'm paying for the data so I can use up my allowance as I see fit.

Ben B 21-04-2014 02:20

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35690534)
Vodafone allow tethering..but then I'm paying for the data so I can use up my allowance as I see fit.

Same with EE, but even with tethering I find it difficult to get anywhere near my 10GB limit

martyh 21-04-2014 10:22

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Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35690802)
Same with EE, but even with tethering I find it difficult to get anywhere near my 10GB limit

Same here ,i also find the 3g is far better than my crappy 6mg connection from sky/BT,and as Maggie said i pay for the data so i should be allowed to use it how i see fit

RobboEdin 21-04-2014 10:48

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35690826)
Same here ,i also find the 3g is far better than my crappy 6mg connection from sky/BT,and as Maggie said i pay for the data so i should be allowed to use it how i see fit

Unfortunately that is untrue. You are allowed to use any service according to the Ts&Cs of that service. If they say that you cannot use tethering then you cannot use tethering.

martyh 21-04-2014 10:59

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35690831)
Unfortunately that is untrue. You are allowed to use any service according to the Ts&Cs of that service. If they say that you cannot use tethering then you cannot use tethering.

oh i know that but it's one of T&C's that doesn't make any sense to me

RobboEdin 21-04-2014 11:35

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35690836)
oh i know that but it's one of T&C's that doesn't make any sense to me

Whether or not it makes any sense, you are stuck with it and if tethering is what you want to do, you will have to go elsewhere.

qasdfdsaq 24-04-2014 00:15

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35689530)
No one does anymore

T-Mobile still does but only on certain handset contracts.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35689720)
Still doesn't make sense to me ,i could stream a film on my phone or i could still do it on my phone but connect it to a laptop and watch the film on a bigger screen ,same data allowance is used so why the hassle?

Except it won't be the same data allowance, your laptop can (and probably will) stream at a higher quality. It can also play back video your phone is incapable of. You can also download larger files, as it has more storage space, etc.

Virgin N00b 24-04-2014 07:48

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35691939)
T-Mobile still does but only on certain handset contracts.

Three do as well.

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35691939)
Except it won't be the same data allowance, your laptop can (and probably will) stream at a higher quality. It can also play back video your phone is incapable of. You can also download larger files, as it has more storage space, etc.

(I think) what MartyH was reffering to, was connecting the phone to a laptop by using a cable.

So it's still the phone that's using the data allowance, but it's transferring it to the laptop screen via an HDMI out.

martyh 24-04-2014 14:09

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Originally Posted by Virgin N00b (Post 35691949)
Three do as well.



(I think) what MartyH was reffering to, was connecting the phone to a laptop by using a cable.

So it's still the phone that's using the data allowance, but it's transferring it to the laptop screen via an HDMI out.

nearly ;) i'm talking about using the phone as a modem connected to my laptop via a usb

Qtx 30-04-2014 16:29

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The bottom line is they want you to use as little bandwidth as possible and with tethering you will use more in the long run.

The Three contract i'm on has always had unlimited data and unlimited tethering. They do some traffic shaping during work hours to things like torrents although I still got 3 to 4Mbps (3G) when I torrented during those hours.

Tethered (wireless) a lot when I moved as it took a month to get a new net connection installed. Must have done 50GB that month between all the devices (wired devices had their gateway set to a wireless device that tethered to the phone) and in all honesty, if it wasn't for gaming occasionally, I could probably do without having a fixed line internet as it's so fast and stable. Usually don't even hit 1 or 2GB. Nice to have the option to use it as a backup though.

I assume the same Three contracts still work the same for new customers.

PsyCrow 29-06-2014 13:41

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Does anyone know what will happen to my service if I tether? I am on a 30-day sim only unlimited data tariff. I know I can do it as I have just tried it and it worked, but what will VM do if I continue to use it?

jb66 29-06-2014 14:48

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If they detect you doing it then they will block you from doing it in the future.

PsyCrow 14-07-2014 09:36

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I was away on holiday in a property that did not have Wi-Fi and I was able to tether 1.4GB of data. Not bothered if they block my from tethering as I can't see me needing to do it again any time soon.


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