OFCOM Speed report
 

It's that time again

http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2014/0...perfast-surge/

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Its good news for VM again :)

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But wait old bean the doomsayers will be out in force later today one imagines.:)

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Indeed :LOL:

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Most of the report is stating the obvious (A 120Mbit is faster than a 76Mbit connection, who would have thought that? ;)), but there is some good info in there too. At least they look at upload speeds now and show that a 76Mbit FTTC is faster than the 120Mbit cable in that respect.

Interesting to see that Virgin Media are the only ones who have a significant percentage drop in speed in the evenings between 8pm and 10pm. Even the adsl suppliers seem to have an insignificant change from the average 24 hour or maximum speeds. I thought all the upgrade work VM was supposed to be doing was going to do away with evening congestion?

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Really?

VM 120 drops to 106, and FTTC 76 drops to 61.

That works out to -
VM drop of 13%
FTTC drop of 20%

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Yes, really :)

Virgins percentage difference is much larger than the others when you look at the maximum speed and average speed numbers quoted and then compare that to the evening peak time hours. You are just comparing the headline speed of both services with the evening speed.

If you go by the highest maximum average of the services and then the same at peak times, Virgin slows down almost 12% compared to FTTC of 6%. Similar results if you take those values from the 24 hour average too.

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Yes, ones arrived clutching at straws as ever, VM will continue to be fastest as these results do not include any of the 152 etc increases.

Remember the posts saying once BT rolled fibre out, VM would be in trouble, looks like they were wrong and with the financial clout of LGI there will be far more innovation to come from what I have heard.

Watch this space.

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Indeed TB but alas some have their rose tinted glasses on and although Virgin ain't perfect they still are head and shoulders above most of the others.

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Simply pointing out a fact always seems to get some people so butthurt, as if someone has insulted the love of their life :rolleyes:

Put your skimpy red VM cheerleading costumes back in the closet you two, they are not needed.

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im on VM 152mb package and the slowest ive seen it drop when doing speed tests is to 141mb down and 10.6mb up.

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This threads gone in a predictable direction !!!!!!

Am I the only one who's glad to see the UK average increasing ?

We can argue and brag all we want but the fact is the majority still don't take the top tier services.

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I knew it would, that's why i sat back and waited. :tu:

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Personally, having just been supercharged from BB M 20Mb to the 50Mb product, I'm nonplussed by seeing my increase which delivers 54Mb.

Perhaps my needs are not typical as there are only two of us in the family unless the grandkids are visiting. The only thing we stream is the tennis as I can't justify Sky's price for sports.

The rest of our activity is well served by TiVo with its modest 10Mb connection to the internet.

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For the majority of homes I still think 20Mbits is more than enough. Even busy family homes don't really need faster than 30 or so at this moment in time when you consider that would handle a family of 6 all browsing, gaming and streaming a video each all at the same time.

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I use 120 meg because it costs me next to nothing ;)

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Can l have some of that.;)

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Just get a job with VM :)

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and live in a cabled area :(

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That's been the case for many years now...

I haven't looked at this report in detail yet but the last one did show VM's drops getting less severe over the last few years...

VM 120 drops from an average of 113.2-116.7 to 106.1-111.5, a drop of 5-7%

FTTC 76 drops from an average of 61.6-68.0 to 60.8-67.2, a drop of 1.0-1.0%.

Incidentally, it remains, as I pointed out last year, that VM 30Mb is slower than FTTC 38Mb, as is VM60 vs FTTC 76, despite VM having originally positioned and claimed both to be faster. I'm guessing the uplift to 50/100 was to fix that mistake...

Disappointingly, VM 120 is still only averaging around 85-88% of it's provisioned speed, though FTTC seems to be getting worse - or just more variable - my own recent congestion issues on BT FTTC being a great example...

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So if FTTC is sold as 76, but only provides 65 on average, that makes it better than something that is sold as 120, but provides 115 on average?

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I never said anything about marketed speeds, what it's "sold as", or which is "better", nor do I care.

Only from a technical point of view, something that's provisioned at 77.43Mbps vs. something provisioned at 133Mbps. We were talking about the effects of congestion after all, and congestion is a function of the underlying technology, not a function of what marketing choose to call something... You have to look at the underlying sync and payload rates to get any meaningful comparison.

As an example, is a service that runs at 10Mbps and drops to 5Mbps at peak times, averaging 7.5Mbps more congested than one that runs at 20Mbps and drops to 1Mbps, averaging 11Mbps? Is it "better"? What if the first was marketed as Upto 20Mb and the second was marketed as Up to 10Mb? Cause that's what you're asking. And frankly, answering a question like that is a minefield.

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No offence Denphone but you constantly make comments like this and I feel they're quite often responsible for the thread ending up the way this one has.

You also are the biggest "doomsayer" in every Sky thread. I think it's time you stopped now and you should grow up! Be positive and others will follow.

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Does anyone give a poop anymore? 30Mb is enough for 80% of people and the ISP's know it. Virginmedia sell 152mb but if all the customers used the full 152mb between 11am and 11pm the network would crumble.

On the other hand BT/Sky ect sell up to 76mb and a lot only get around 50mb. But the network could handle all customers using their connection between 11am-11pm.

Truth is networks only offer 50mb+ speeds because they can price them higher.

Sky and Talktalk are now about to launch a 1Gb FTTH connection in york, no one needs it. But they will be able to say they have the fastest connection when compared to VM.

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I always said I was an above average kind of guy :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/04/13.png

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Mines not to bad on Infinity either.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/04/6.png

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Mine does what i want it to which is download via the newsgroups quickly, Was streaming top gear in HD on netflicks whilst i did that test :)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/04/5.png

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My Virginmedia connection its supercharged upto 50Mb, its good for downloading but god awful for gaming/Skype/ and the like.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/04/4.png

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Sorry to burst your bubble but your download is pretty poor.

I've been supercharged also and get the full 54Mb, even wirelessly.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/829992982

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I agree my virginmedia download speed is quite poor. But scroll up an see my my infinity speedtest. An sorry to burst your bubble but your upload is very poor and your ping is dreadful.

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Sorry but I was not comparing Virgin Media with BT. Simply saying that your Virgin Media download is short of what it should be.

Reference upload, even 3Mb is too much for me as I rarely do any.

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With a ping of 8 to the speedtest server, your gaming should have been brilliant? Still a ton of jitter on the connection or something else?

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The nerd-o-sterone count is high on this thread.

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Not really, pinging a regional speedtest server on Virginmedia's network from a Virginmedia connection does not represent anything at all. Least of all how good and stable the connection would be for gaming.
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Do you read many of your own posts? I mean I'm happy to link if you really want some in depth anal commentary on the in's and outs of 500 meters of copper?

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Obviously. But getting a decent ping to a speedtest server usually suggests that similar pings will be gotten on UK gaming servers who are often on the same peering links.