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alanbjames 05-04-2014 11:18

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Hi everyone can someone please answer a question...

At the moment i am running a 27" and a 24" monitor as secondary.

The 27" is connected the DVI port and 24" through the standard VGA port.

Now the VGA lead has a dodgy pin and monitor keeps flickering so im gonna switch one monitor to HDMI and have one on the DVI.

Shall i put the 27" on HDMI and 24" on DVI as they both have same functions and ports.

Thanks.

tizmeinnit 05-04-2014 11:48

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both digital so I do not see it mattering. I use HDMI on my primary screen though but thats cuz its a tv same config as you

Kabaal 05-04-2014 11:48

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Either or really as the picture will be just the same with either. The only difference HDMI ever makes with mine are that some extra options open up in the monitor settings, stuff i wouldn't change anyway.

Jimmy-J 05-04-2014 12:41

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I must be doing something wrong, because no matter how high I set the resolution, when connected via HDMI, the image never looks good. :confused:

qasdfdsaq 05-04-2014 18:50

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The only resolution you should be setting is the native one.

If it still looks crap it's your monitor settings, nothing to do with the interface.

Kabaal 05-04-2014 18:58

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35686310)
The only resolution you should be setting is the native one.

If it still looks crap it's your monitor settings, nothing to do with the interface.

If i remember right mine looked a bit funky too the first time i used HDMI on the monitor. Scaling was off and everything was fuzzy but i can't remember what i did to sort it out other than it being easy to fix.

qasdfdsaq 05-04-2014 19:03

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Setting the correct resolution probably. There should be no scaling at all at native, which is what you should always be using.

tizmeinnit 05-04-2014 19:08

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35686315)
Setting the correct resolution probably. There should be no scaling at all at native, which is what you should always be using.

I have often had to use the scaling option at native resolution with ATI gfx cards

Kabaal 05-04-2014 19:14

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It wasn't the resolution. It was an AMD specific issue with HDMI and as i said, there was an easy fix for it i just can't remember what i did but if it's the same thing for Jimmy-J i'm sure 10mins googling would be all he needs.

Edit - should have refreshed the page before replying ^

tizmeinnit 05-04-2014 19:57

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Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35686318)
It wasn't the resolution. It was an AMD specific issue with HDMI and as i said, there was an easy fix for it i just can't remember what i did but if it's the same thing for Jimmy-J i'm sure 10mins googling would be all he needs.

Edit - should have refreshed the page before replying ^

and I should have put AMD and not ATI lol :)

dilli-theclaw 05-04-2014 20:24

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I had to change the over scan option on my TV to get the picture just right on the native resolution.

You can do this on the pc settings too but I just did it on the TV.

qasdfdsaq 07-04-2014 17:10

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35686316)
I have often had to use the scaling option at native resolution with ATI gfx cards

Had to? For what?

I can't think of any reason why you'd have to use the scaling option...

Unless you're trying to mirror a laptop display with an external monitor of different resolution? That's about the only reason I can think of

tizmeinnit 07-04-2014 17:56

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35686755)
Had to? For what?

I can't think of any reason why you'd have to use the scaling option...

Unless you're trying to mirror a laptop display with an external monitor of different resolution? That's about the only reason I can think of

to get the image to fill the screen correctly at native resolution. No settings on TV do it (set to monitor mode )


simple scaling option in CCC scales it up

my current tv does not need it

qasdfdsaq 08-04-2014 17:41

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Wait, the native resolution of the TV does not fill the TV screen but rescaling it in the graphics card does?

That makes no sense... Shouldn't even be possible.

Kabaal 08-04-2014 18:03

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35687051)
Wait, the native resolution of the TV does not fill the TV screen but rescaling it in the graphics card does?

That makes no sense... Shouldn't even be possible.

AMD's CCC underscans by default with HDMI so the slider need moved 'up' to 0% manually. A combination of that and it not playing well with monitors that are set to AV instead of PC for their HDMI inputs (causes blurry text) which is often the default and you see the issues we've been talking about here. It's very very common with AMD, not an issue with Nvidia.

Had to google again just to remember what i had to do with mine.

tizmeinnit 08-04-2014 21:33

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Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35687059)
AMD's CCC underscans by default with HDMI so the slider need moved 'up' to 0% manually. A combination of that and it not playing well with monitors that are set to AV instead of PC for their HDMI inputs (causes blurry text) which is often the default and you see the issues we've been talking about here. It's very very common with AMD, not an issue with Nvidia.

Had to google again just to remember what i had to do with mine.

^^^ this :)

you learn something new every day eh qas ;)

Ben B 08-04-2014 22:31

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If you don't like CCC (I found it to slow down my PC) you can also disable overscan in the registry http://www.avsforum.com/t/1251639/ho...control-center

tizmeinnit 08-04-2014 22:44

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Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35687208)
If you don't like CCC (I found it to slow down my PC) you can also disable overscan in the registry http://www.avsforum.com/t/1251639/ho...control-center

can not be much of a pc then lol

Ben B 08-04-2014 22:47

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Haha, either that or it was all in the mind, I have a tendency to get annoyed by things in the system tray. Have a laptop with both Intel HD and NVidia graphics now so it's all good

qasdfdsaq 08-04-2014 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35687059)
AMD's CCC underscans by default with HDMI so the slider need moved 'up' to 0% manually. A combination of that and it not playing well with monitors that are set to AV instead of PC for their HDMI inputs (causes blurry text) which is often the default and you see the issues we've been talking about here. It's very very common with AMD, not an issue with Nvidia.

Had to google again just to remember what i had to do with mine.

I've used AMD-only cards with the full CCC suite for five years and it's never once defaulted to underscanning on any interface.

But by very definition if it's underscanning or overscanning it's not running on native.

tizmeinnit 08-04-2014 23:00

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35687222)
I've used AMD-only cards with the full CCC suite for five years and it's never once defaulted to underscanning on any interface.

But by very definition if it's underscanning or overscanning it's not running on native.

how strange a 1080 screen set to 1080 screen does it then so obviously it does

Ben B 08-04-2014 23:28

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35687222)
I've used AMD-only cards with the full CCC suite for five years and it's never once defaulted to underscanning on any interface

Maybe overscanning is turned on on your display so it's cancelling out the underscan :D

qasdfdsaq 09-04-2014 18:48

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35687223)
how strange a 1080 screen set to 1080 screen does it then so obviously it does

The fact that it was overscanning meant it was scaling it to a non-native resolution. That's what overscanning does...

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Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35687230)
Maybe overscanning is turned on on your display so it's cancelling out the underscan :D

It doesn't have any such option or capability. It's a digital display and all digital modes are purely 1:1. There's overscanning/underscanning available on analogue (VGA, Component, and Composite inputs) but not HDMI.

Ben B 09-04-2014 20:57

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35687426)
It doesn't have any such option or capability. It's a digital display and all digital modes are purely 1:1. There's overscanning/underscanning available on analogue (VGA, Component, and Composite inputs) but not HDMI.

Strange, all my TVs have a 16:9 and Full setting on HDMI, the Full setting being the one without overscan

tizmeinnit 09-04-2014 21:09

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35687426)
The fact that it was overscanning meant it was scaling it to a non-native resolution. That's what overscanning does...



It doesn't have any such option or capability. It's a digital display and all digital modes are purely 1:1. There's overscanning/underscanning available on analogue (VGA, Component, and Composite inputs) but not HDMI.

do not care what you say it still did it

dilli-theclaw 09-04-2014 21:35

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35687426)
The fact that it was overscanning meant it was scaling it to a non-native resolution. That's what overscanning does...



It doesn't have any such option or capability. It's a digital display and all digital modes are purely 1:1. There's overscanning/underscanning available on analogue (VGA, Component, and Composite inputs) but not HDMI.

Maybe not on your display but overscan is an option on my HDMI screen.


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