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Bogof 30-03-2014 20:07
The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
So I have an xboxone and its crap. Tittanfall is just anoher FPS but with less depth and A LOT OF SCREEN TEARING. COD-Ghosts is on PS4 is 1080p and sometimes exceeds 60fps.

COD-Ghosts is 720p on Xbox one. I have tomb raider on both consoles and Mtel gear solid GZ on both consoles. An they both perform amazing on PS4 and nothing special on Xbox one.

Oh, if you want to checkout wether or not I own an Xbox-one add me "Ooh im good". If you have yet to buy a console BUY A PLAYSTATION 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cimt 30-03-2014 20:20
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So basically you buy games for the graphics? Opinion voided.

MadGamer 30-03-2014 20:26
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
I have to say, I can't tell the difference between 720p or 1080p to be honest. It all looks the same to me

SnoopZ 30-03-2014 20:38
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684706)
So I have an xboxone and its crap. Tittanfall is just anoher FPS but with less depth and A LOT OF SCREEN TEARING. COD-Ghosts is on PS4 is 1080p and sometimes exceeds 60fps.

COD-Ghosts is 720p on Xbox one. I have tomb raider on both consoles and Mtel gear solid GZ on both consoles. An they both perform amazing on PS4 and nothing special on Xbox one.

Oh, if you want to checkout wether or not I own an Xbox-one add me "Ooh im good". If you have yet to buy a console BUY A PLAYSTATION 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The X1 is fine so stop trolling, this thread needs to close.

Chris 30-03-2014 20:46
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
This thread doesn't need to do anything, except remain civil and on topic. ;)

Bogof 30-03-2014 21:01
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Graphics are important if they werent we would all still be playing PS2, Or no one would update there PC graphics card.

I own a XBOX-ONE and its under powered,

I was a big fan of xbox, from the original xbox to the xbox360, but Xbox one is not upto par!

dilli-theclaw 30-03-2014 21:05
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684735)
Graphics are important if they werent we would all still be playing PS2, Or no one would update there PC graphics card.

I own a XBOX-ONE and its under powered,

I was a big fan of xbox, from the original xbox to the xbox360, but Xbox one is not upto par!
Graphics are only part of a good game.

I still play elite on my BBC micro for example. Many millions play minecraft too.

Bogof 30-03-2014 21:07
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35684739)
Graphics are only part of a good game.

I still play elite on my BBC micro for example. Many millions play minecraft too.

I have a BBC micro and a VIC20 lol, but I also have a very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013. I buy consles for the exclusives that will not appear on PC.

An Minecraft is not about graphics, but would you play call of duty if it had Minecraft gaphics?

Bulky 30-03-2014 22:21
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684741)
I have a BBC micro and a VIC20 lol, but I also have a very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013. I buy consles for the exclusives that will not appear on PC.

An Minecraft is not about graphics, but would you play call of duty if it had Minecraft gaphics?
So why did you bother buying an xb1 when you have a very very powerful pc that cost £3300 to build in December 2013, you buy consoles for the exclusives that will not appear on pc like tomb raider definitive edition (of which you now have two maybe three copies if you bought it for pc as well) and titanfall and cod ghosts ........ Oh wait they are all available for your £3300 über computer built on December 2013 at 7:13 pm 36 seconds ......................:p:.

dilli-theclaw 30-03-2014 22:34
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684741)
I have a BBC micro and a VIC20 lol, but I also have a very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013. I buy consles for the exclusives that will not appear on PC.

An Minecraft is not about graphics, but would you play call of duty if it had Minecraft gaphics?
If it was a good game yes I would. I am the very last person to give a crap about the graphics of a game.

tizmeinnit 30-03-2014 22:42
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
play-ability and interesting concept comes before graphics imo

I used to be a really good FPS multiplayer but now I hate them because of the perk system in all of them . Console gaming has killed good skilled gaming as far as I am concerned

Stephen 30-03-2014 23:46
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Great graphics alone do not a good game make ;)

Most people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. Especially if the textures are really high in detail. So whether they end up setting the game to 900p or something just to get 60fps then there is not really a problem.

As for being underpowered thats just nonsense. Its just a new console and they just need to fully explore ways to get the most out of the system.

Bogof 30-03-2014 23:59
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It is under powered fact. An don't tell me about texture tiling an direct x 12 (assuming you understand those) it's 2015 before we see the results of those in games.

Xboxone was designed to be constantly connected to the net with kinect always on. When that idea fell flat with gamers Microsft had to rejig the system but never had the time.

XBOXONE IS A HORRID MESS!

Yes the ESRAM may come into its own with tiling. But by then PS4 will be lead platform for everything so developers will never bother to use it to its full potential.

For those who don't understand- google TILED RESOURCES.

Stephen 31-03-2014 00:30
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684815)
It is under powered fact. An don't tell me about texture tiling an direct x 12 (assuming you understand those) it's 2015 before we see the results of those in games.

Xboxone was designed to be constantly connected to the net with kinect always on. When that idea fell flat with gamers Microsft had to rejig the system but never had the time.

XBOXONE IS A HORRID MESS!

Yes the ESRAM may come into its own with tiling. But by then PS4 will be lead platform for everything so developers will never bother to use it to its full potential.

For those who don't understand- google TILED RESOURCES.
Unless its an Xbox exclusive title.

Also thats your opinion and doesn't in any make it a fact. Look at every other generation of console when they launched and then look at the games released after a couple of years, developers need to get to grips with the systems to be able to fully utilise the power at their disposal. Developers will already be working with DX12 and working on making the games look a lot more amazing for next year and beyond. Launch window games never are amazing.

Tezcatlipoca 31-03-2014 03:13
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I think you'd have more fun on NeoGAF than CF, OP, it's much more suited to trolling.

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OK, fine, I'll bite.

Yes, it is underpowered compared to the PS4. This has been apparent since they both launched back in November, given the variety of games that have been released at and after launch that render at 1080p on the PS4 and less than 1080p on the Xbox One (COD Ghosts, BF4, Assassin's Creed IV...) along with exclusives such as Titanfall and Ryse rendering at less than 1080p (792p and 900p, respectively) and the recent Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition rendering at 1080p but only having a frame rate of 30fps compared to the PS4 version's 60fps.

But, so what? If a game is *fun* and you *enjoy* it, does it really matter if it is only 720p or 900p instead of 1080p?

I have far more fun with Titanfall than COD, despite the odd bit of screen-tearing. COD Ghosts is an abomination, whatever system you play it on.

I loved every bit of Tomb Raider despite it only being 30fps. It still played brilliantly, and it did actually look gorgeous.

*You* obviously care, and that is fair enough. But I don't, and neither do many others here or elsewhere.

I do find it strange, though, that you continue to buy games though for a console you appear to hate so very very much, especially given your extreme obsession with graphical performance and your knowledge of the PS4's superior power.

Why buy Tomb Raider for both?

Why buy the very recent MGS for both?

Why buy COD Ghosts? [... for any system! ;) ]

etc.

Actually, given that you have a "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" and only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC", why buy any of those games except for MGS?

Tomb Raider, COD Ghosts, and Titanfall are all available for Windows PC, and would all perform far better on your "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" than on an Xbox One or even a PS4.

I can't actually think of any truly Xbox One exclusive games (as in, not on PC too) apart from Ryse and Forza 5, so why have you been wasting your money on others that you could get on PC and have also got on PS4?

Do you regret your choice so much that you must rant and rave about it to others? What drove you to create this thread?

If you really hate your Xbox One that much, I think you would be better off selling it, instead of continuing to buy games for it that you have also bought for the PS4 and which would actually be better on your "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013".

But still, have fun with whatever you do. I shall continue to enjoy playing on my "pile of bleep" Xbox One, and will get a PS4 once Naughty Dog release something :)

Bulky 31-03-2014 07:36
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I will also buy a ps4 when there are some exclusives worth playing , unchartered etc and did the same last generation.
I think I'll buy myself a pc as well , have a budget of £3301.24 and building on the 22nd April. This will come in handy so when I log into my mates xbox one using my gamertag I can see the uber graphical letdown of the xbox one and so I can spend a fortune buying the same game for my ps4,xbox one and pc and then do some reviews of my thoughts on here , hell everyone will probably think I'm a complete pleb but it will be worth me taking the time to give my opinion of which everyone is so dependent on here.

peanut 31-03-2014 08:05
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If I bought the 'next gen' console I would hope to expect it to live up to it's name, and that means better graphics, smoother and high frame rates and no screen tearing etc etc this meaning compared to the last consoles. This hasn't really been the case (yet).

I might be hard on the xbox one and quite rightly so, but I can also say the same about the PC too. The lack of big titles and exclusives for PC is very noticable and games are now opting for the gaming experience that are all too short lived and no re-playability when completed (after a couple of hours in some cases). This is happening for all formats which I have to say isn't worth the money for the price they are now asking.

I slated Titanfall as just another FPS that looks boring as hell. My reasoning is that it's just offers nothing new. I was very much into Unreal Tourny, BHD, Joint Ops etc, a bit of COD so Titanfall is just a gimmick that I feel doesn't have much to offer (after a short while). And at the same time it's not exactly next gen either for the XB1.

I feel that the PS4 might gain the ground whilst the XB1 takes the time to get repaired. I'm all for the new and I often take the plunge in being the first in line but I'm so glad this time around not to go ahead with the XB1.

I expect those that have bought the XB1 early to defend their purchase, and quite rightly too, they will get better - hopefully.

Bogof 31-03-2014 13:45
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There is no defending Xbone in its current state, its a mess.

I bought mine from game as abig bundle Titanfall, COD-Ghosts, a play an charge kit, 3 months xboxlive for £420. So remove the cost of the games and extras,, COD=£45 Titanfall=£45 Play&charge kit=£20 and 3 months live=£15 that means my xboxone cost me around £290. About all its worth.

If I had paid £429 for it I would be pretty pee'd off right now,

Stephen 31-03-2014 14:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35684840)
If I bought the 'next gen' console I would hope to expect it to live up to it's name, and that means better graphics, smoother and high frame rates and no screen tearing etc etc this meaning compared to the last consoles. This hasn't really been the case (yet).

I might be hard on the xbox one and quite rightly so, but I can also say the same about the PC too. The lack of big titles and exclusives for PC is very noticable and games are now opting for the gaming experience that are all too short lived and no re-playability when completed (after a couple of hours in some cases). This is happening for all formats which I have to say isn't worth the money for the price they are now asking.

I slated Titanfall as just another FPS that looks boring as hell. My reasoning is that it's just offers nothing new. I was very much into Unreal Tourny, BHD, Joint Ops etc, a bit of COD so Titanfall is just a gimmick that I feel doesn't have much to offer (after a short while). And at the same time it's not exactly next gen either for the XB1.

I feel that the PS4 might gain the ground whilst the XB1 takes the time to get repaired. I'm all for the new and I often take the plunge in being the first in line but I'm so glad this time around not to go ahead with the XB1.

I expect those that have bought the XB1 early to defend their purchase, and quite rightly too, they will get better - hopefully.
Repaired?? But it's not broke. Developers just haven't got used to the system. Remember the PS2? It's launch games looked awful compared to games released later in its life.

Ive not nought either console yet as I can't afford them but am still more than happy with my PS3 and Xbox 360 and Wii U for the time being.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684888)
There is no defending Xbone in its current state, its a mess.

I bought mine from game as abig bundle Titanfall, COD-Ghosts, a play an charge kit, 3 months xboxlive for £420. So remove the cost of the games and extras,, COD=£45 Titanfall=£45 Play&charge kit=£20 and 3 months live=£15 that means my xboxone cost me around £290. About all its worth.

If I had paid £429 for it I would be pretty pee'd off right now,
so really you just love telling people how much money you have?? :rolleyes:

Tezcatlipoca 31-03-2014 14:34
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684888)
There is no defending Xbone in its current state, its a mess.

I bought mine from game as abig bundle Titanfall, COD-Ghosts, a play an charge kit, 3 months xboxlive for £420. So remove the cost of the games and extras,, COD=£45 Titanfall=£45 Play&charge kit=£20 and 3 months live=£15 that means my xboxone cost me around £290. About all its worth.

If I had paid £429 for it I would be pretty pee'd off right now,
I'm still curious as to why you bought it at all, given that you have a "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" and only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC".

Did you not realise that it would be cheaper to just buy Titanfall and Ghosts for Windows PC instead, with the benefit of them performing far, far, far better on your "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" than on an Xbox One?

And why get Tomb Raider, when you also had it on PS4 and could also have had it on your "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013"?


Given the level of importance you place on graphical power, why did you ever bother with an Xbox One in the first place? I would have assumed that someone like you who places such importance on graphics would have known beforehand that many games on the Xbox One have a lower resolution or framerate than on the PS4? Plus, of course, as you have "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" you don't need one anyway to play anything other than Forza 5, Dead Rising 3, and Ryse (games you've not mentioned)...

peanut 31-03-2014 15:20
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But it does ask what is the best thing to go for. A PC or one of the consoles. Right now I don't think it is the right time to make any decision.

I don't need the media side of any of the consoles as my PC is rigged into my main TV. Gaming on the PC is too far in-between and no exclusives and it's way to early to decide on the consoles with their problems. And then the price of the games too.

So my best option would be to just wait it out, hopefully the prices will drop on the consoles / games, and for the XB1 to be fixed. Ideally I'd like a better PC but then I don't think it'll get much use for the price

Maybe things will be a lot different in a year or so, but I don't think then they'll be a clear winner of the consoles. Nor do I think PC gaming will get any better either.

Bogof 31-03-2014 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35684895)
I'm still curious as to why you bought it at all,
Don't be to curious, I have a lot of tech that over laps, I even have BT infinity and Virginmedia 50Mb internet connections at home.We always have a powerful home PC. For the family for work/uni photo editing,video editing and converting ect.

Hey, Some people spend literally £40 a week on booze, cigs, junk food. My vice is my Tech- Sue me....

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35684891)

so really you just love telling people how much money you have?? :rolleyes:

If I was saying I had a 7 bedroom mansion and drove a ferrari, yeah I could trying to say how much money I have. But a PC, A xboxone and a PS4? REALLY?LOL.

They could be on finance, or credit cards. I could be council estate rich, ya know your clothes a crap, your kids scruffy, ya never take ya kids out for meals or theme parks/holidays BUT I GOT A 55 INCH TELLY!!!:D:D:D

But yeah be sensible,

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It gets better,

Playstation 4 has now sold 7 million consoles, and its out selling the Xbox one 7 to 1 in Europe. Potentially 8-1 in the UK.

It must be that "Gamers" are buying the PS4, and those after a half hearted multimedia device that does everythng badly are going for the Xboxone.

Tezcatlipoca 31-03-2014 20:17
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684941)
Don't be to curious, I have a lot of tech that over laps, I even have BT infinity and Virginmedia 50Mb internet connections at home.We always have a powerful home PC. For the family for work/uni photo editing,video editing and converting ect.

Hey, Some people spend literally £40 a week on booze, cigs, junk food. My vice is my Tech- Sue me....
It's a legitimate thing to be curious about, given your posts in this thread.

So now you say you have an Xbox One as well because of "overlap", and your "powerful home PC" is actually "[f]or the family for work/uni photo editing,video editing and converting ect.[sic]"

So why did you previously say that you only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC"?

Which is true? :confused:

I find your posts in this thread to be quite bizarre.

You seem obsessed with graphics above all else, and yet you bought an Xbox One four months after launch...

That's four months since the so-called "Resolutiongate" began and it became widely known that COD Ghosts (and Assassin's Creed IV, Battlefield 4, etc.) all rendered at a lower resolution on the Xbox One compared to the PS4.

That's nearly two months since Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition was released and it became widely known that it ran at 60fps on the PS4 and only 30fps on the Xbox One.

You also bought your console after it was widely known that Titanfall only rendered at 792p on the Xbox One and had other performance issues compared to running on a Windows PC.

Given that, and given that you have a PS4, and given that you have a "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" and only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC", then why on Earth did you buy an Xbox One?

And why get games for it that are better on the PS4 you also have? Why get Tomb Raider and MGS Ground Zeroes for the Xbox One when you have the superior PS4 versions?

And why get games for it that are far far better on your "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" you also have? Why get Titanfall and COD Ghosts (& Tomb Raider) when your PC would run them so much better? Why get Titanfall at all when you previously said here at CF that it's "crap"?


It seems to me that you have only yourself to blame for your mistaken purchase. It's not like you bought it right at launch, you bought it a couple of weeks ago, months after it was known what the gap was like between the two systems (the other one of which you also own) and months after you got your "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013".

If you don't like it, just sell it and stop whinging about a mistake you could have avoided.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684941)
It must be that "Gamers" are buying the PS4, and those after a half hearted multimedia device that does everythng badly are going for the Xboxone.
So is that why you bought your Xbox One, then? ;)

Stephen 31-03-2014 20:36
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684941)


If I was saying I had a 7 bedroom mansion and drove a ferrari, yeah I could trying to say how much money I have. But a PC, A xboxone and a PS4? REALLY?LOL.

They could be on finance, or credit cards. I could be council estate rich, ya know your clothes a crap, your kids scruffy, ya never take ya kids out for meals or theme parks/holidays BUT I GOT A 55 INCH TELLY!!!:D:D:D

But yeah be sensible,

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It gets better,

Playstation 4 has now sold 7 million consoles, and its out selling the Xbox one 7 to 1 in Europe. Potentially 8-1 in the UK.

It must be that "Gamers" are buying the PS4, and those after a half hearted multimedia device that does everythng badly are going for the Xboxone.
Well at every opportunity your have stated your PC cost £3300 in December 2013 and also the price you paid for your totally unneeded Xbox One.

So the fact that the sales for Xbox One rose by 96% last week with over 70% of sales being for the Titanfall bundle. Also Titanfall has become the biggest selling game of 2014 already whilst only being available on PC and Xbox One.

So if 7 Mill PS4s sold what the the totals for the One?

Bogof 31-03-2014 21:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35685018)
Well at every opportunity your have stated your PC cost £3300 in December 2013
I mentioned it once!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685010)
It's a legitimate thing to be curious about, given your posts in this thread.

So now you say you have an Xbox One as well because of "overlap", and your "powerful home PC" is actually "[f]or the family for work/uni photo editing,video editing and converting ect.[sic]"

So why did you previously say that you only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC"?
Where do I say I have an xboxone "because of overlap" and my home pc is for the family and various uses. You will misquote and deliberately try to manipulate what I type. I however will not do that to you.

I have an xboxone, a PS4,a PC. But back on topic. The xboxone is really not up to par IN MY OPINION. An I bought it for exclusives like Halo-Titanfall etc. I will play these games and still voice my disapointment until such time as things change.

You should thank people like me prepared to let companys know when they got it wrong, so when they make the changes to xboxone gamers demand, you will benefit,

By the way you do understand I am commenting on the XBOXONE? This is not personal attack on anyone on this forum, despite the replies I am getting aimed at me personally, But ok I iwll bite, I think you've been exposed to too much estrogen.

Bulky 31-03-2014 21:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685028)
I mentioned it once!

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Where do I say I have an xboxone "because of overlap" and my home pc is for the family and various uses. You will misquote and deliberately try to manipulate what I type. I however will not do that to you.

I have an xboxone, a PS4,a PC. But back on topic. The xboxone is really not up to par IN MY OPINION. An I bought it for exclusives like Halo-Titanfall etc. I will play these games and still voice my disapointment until such time as things change.

You should thank people like me prepared to let companys know when they got it wrong, so when they make the changes to xboxone gamers demand, you will benefit,

By the way you do understand I am commenting on the XBOXONE? This is not personal attack on anyone on this forum, despite the replies I am getting aimed at me personally, But ok I iwll bite, I think you've been exposed to too much estrogen.
Halo not even out yet and titanfall as it's not an exclusive would have been better served on your £3300 pc which you bought in December 2013 ..........

Tezcatlipoca 31-03-2014 22:01
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685028)
Where do I say I have an xboxone "because of overlap" and my home pc is for the family and various uses. You will misquote and deliberately try to manipulate what I type. I however will not do that to you.
So what did you mean by this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35684895)
I'm still curious as to why you bought it at all, given that you have a "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" and only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC".
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35684941)
Don't be to curious, I have a lot of tech that over laps, I even have BT infinity and Virginmedia 50Mb internet connections at home.We always have a powerful home PC. For the family for work/uni photo editing,video editing and converting ect.
Why say in one post you that have a "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" and that you only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC", yet later talk about "over lap" and how you "always have a powerful home PC. For the family for work/uni photo editing,video editing and converting"?

Why *did* you buy it? :confused:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685028)
I have an xboxone, a PS4,a PC. But back on topic. The xboxone is really not up to par IN MY OPINION. An I bought it for exclusives like Halo-Titanfall etc. I will play these games and still voice my disapointment until such time as things change.
Halo is not even out, and does not even have a release date.

You said Titanfall was "crap", before it even came out. Why buy an Xbox One for a game you think is "crap"?

And, given that you also stated that you only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC", why buy an Xbox One for Titanfall - a game that is also on Windows PC...and a game that would perform far better on your "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013"?

All the games you've mentioned so far that are actually out are better graphically on PS4 or PC, both of which you have. So why have Ghosts and Tomb Raider and MGS GZ on Xbox One in addition to PS4? Or why not just have them all (bar MGS GZ) on PC? They're not exclusives...

Why get an Xbox One now, knowing that the PS4 (which you have) and PC (which you have) would perform better at the thing that you find most important? Why not wait until Halo was actually released, instead of wasting money on a console now just to play a game you think is crap, a game that would perform better on your PC?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685028)
You should thank people like me prepared to let companys know when they got it wrong, so when they make the changes to xboxone gamers demand, you will benefit
How will anyone benefit from you constantly ranting and raving about how the Xbox One is "crap" and a "pile of bleep"? How will anyone benefit from you gleefully reporting PS4 sales figures compared to the Xbox One?

It does not seem like particularly constructive or productive criticism to just constantly slag it off...Are you so upset by the choice you mistakenly made that you have to attack the Xbox One at every turn?


I don't know what you think, but I'm not a fanboy.

I have an Xbox One. I also have an Xbox 360, and a PS3. And I *will* buy a PS4. Hell, I'd buy one right now if it played 3D BDs, which is the only thing causing me to hold onto my PS3 at the moment. I will get one when The Last of Us or Uncharted 4 or another ND game comes out, although if it still doesn't have 3D BD support by then (& the Xbox One still doesn't too), then I'll have to find some space somehow or get a new unit with more shelves due to keeping the PS3.

I will happily criticise MS and the Xbox One, and have done here and on other forums, along with on social media and elsewhere.

I have gone on again and again about the mess of a UI and its reliance on Kinect, along with its terrible media capabilities for something marketed as an "all-in-one entertainment system".

I have taken part in the March and April system previews, and have started and posted in multiple threads in the preview forums providing feedback on what works, what does not, and what is *still* missing after four months.

Most (not all ;) ) of my criticism has been constructive, and together with other people's constructive criticism is far more likely to lead to people "benefiting" than your unconstructive ranting is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685028)
By the way you do understand I am commenting on the XBOXONE? This is not personal attack on anyone on this forum, despite the replies I am getting aimed at me personally, But ok I iwll bite, I think you've been exposed to too much estrogen.

I'm just trying to understand your "reasoning"...It baffles me. Why buy an underpowered system when you are obsessed with graphics. Why buy games for that underpowered system that you also have for the PS4 and could also have for your powerful PC, etc. etc. etc.

Bogof 31-03-2014 22:38
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685043)
Blah whinge moan blah....
The xboxone is under powered, if you havent bought a console yet buy the PS4..An this is form a xboxone owner ..ME! LOL.

Bulky 31-03-2014 22:43
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
I'm pretty sure I'd find titanfall pretty dull if I didn't play with others I knew , bogof you have to be the first and only person I've ever seen on xbox live with zero friends on your friends list ........ Hmmmmm

Bogof 31-03-2014 22:46
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35685056)
I'm pretty sure I'd find titanfall pretty dull if I didn't play with others I knew , bogof you have to be the first and only person I've ever seen on xbox live with zero friends on your friends list ........ Hmmmmm
I have a hell of a lot of people on my friends list, over 20 from work, 9 from my Sunday football league team, a few nephews, some general life mates, a few randoms form xbox a few from xboxlive I've gamed with for year but never met, a few from various forum clans/gaming nights

Although, to see my friendslist, you have to be on my friends list. I take if you're unaware of xbox's privacy settings?

Bulky 31-03-2014 22:51
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685057)
I have a hell of a lot of people on my friends list, over 20 from work, 9 from my Sunday football league team, a few nephews, some general life mates, a few randoms form xbox a few from xboxlive I've gamed with for year but never met, a few from various forum clans/gaming nights

Although, to see my friendslist, you have to be on my friends list. I take if you're unaware of xbox's privacy settings?
And all of a sudden you make your whole profile private after I said that ....... Hmmmmmm

Stephen 31-03-2014 22:51
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685054)
The xboxone is under powered, if you havent bought a console yet buy the PS4..An this is form a xboxone owner ..ME! LOL.
So even after Matt's lengthy post all you can respond with is the same generic posting you made already rather than explaining why you bought an Xbox One even though you already had a £3k PC and a PS4? and could have just bought Ghosts and Titanfall for the PC, saving yourself a few hundred pounds!

Consoles don't need to be as powerful as a PC to create great graphics that has been proved for years. It just takes time to get the power out of it. Best graphics always come later in a consoles lifespan.

Bogof 31-03-2014 23:08
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35685058)
And all of a sudden you make your whole profile private after I said that ....... Hmmmmmm
My "whole life"? Internet outrage and over statedness for the win lol...My xbox friendlist is set to viewable by friends only since 2005.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35685059)
So even after Matt's lengthy post all you can respond with is the same generic posting you made already rather than explaining why you bought an Xbox One even though you already had a £3k PC and a PS4?
So you want me to explain to you why I spend my money on the things I spend it on? I bought an xboxone because I can. Its crap, thats that.

Tezcatlipoca 31-03-2014 23:11
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685054)
The xboxone is under powered, if you havent bought a console yet buy the PS4..An this is form a xboxone owner ..ME! LOL.
So, still afraid to actually address any of my questions or points?



The *only* person who has been posting "[b]lah whinge moan blah...." has, I'm afraid, been you.


If you consider my questioning, or that of other people, to be "personal", then it's your own fault - you opened yourself up to those questions.

If you did not want people to question your illogical choices, you should not have told us about your illogical choices.

If you did not want people to question your contradictory statements, you should not have posted contradictory statements.

Bulky 31-03-2014 23:12
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685067)
My "whole life"? Internet outrage and over statedness for the win lol...

---------- Post added at 22:08 ---------- Previous post was at 22:07 ----------



So you want me to explain to you why I spend my money on the things I spend it on? I bought an xboxone because I can. Its crap, thats that.
But you were so keen for everyone to see and all of a sudden when your "I'm being genuine" is called into question you close everything of..... Hmmmm

Bogof 31-03-2014 23:20
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35685071)
But you were so keen for everyone to see and all of a sudden when your "I'm being genuine" is called into question you close everything of..... Hmmmm
What? I simply said check me on xboxlive if you don't believe I own a XBOXONE. Which you can do, your faux outrage is so 2008. Seriously, no one does it anymore. If you keep it up you'll be getting a "cool story bro" reply from me!

All I am saying is in my opinion xboxone is piece of crap!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685070)
So, still afraid to actually address any of my questions or points?
I've addressed your question.I BOUGHT A XBOXONE BECAUSE I CAN-Just like anyone else can lol. Sunk in yet?

Ya know, I have several radio stations preset into my car radio. Even though radio 1 plays all the songs CaptialFM plays. I still occasionally switch between to the 2 for certain shows.

Stephen 31-03-2014 23:23
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685067)

So you want me to explain to you why I spend my money on the things I spend it on? I bought an xboxone because I can. Its crap, thats that.
Well seen as it was you that brought the whole subject up by telling us about your amazing PC then spend hundreds on a console you didn't need as all the games you mentioned are on PC or PS4. So there was no need to buy a console you already knew had issues, and could have played the games in much better quality on your beast of a machine at over £3k.

Its not crap but its also not amazing. As long as it plays games then its doing its job.

Bogof 31-03-2014 23:27
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35685078)
Well seen as it was you that brought the whole subject up by telling us about your amazing PC then spend hundreds on a console you didn't need as all the games you mentioned are on PC or PS4. So there was no need to buy a console you already new had issues.

Its not crap but its also not amazing. As long as it plays games then its doing its job.
Its crap lol, unplug the Kinect and try to find anything. You can't get to settings without a oad of button press's/

It was designed for Kinect always connected, when they backed down from that the whole basis of the xboxone went tits up. IT DOES NOT WORK RIGHT NOW!!

PS4's "dashboard" equivalant is so much fast and mor edirect the the xboxone, go buy a PS4 trust me you will see how crap the Xbone is as a gaming console.

Stephen 31-03-2014 23:43
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
IMO they never 'backed down' just changed things a bit to let people disconnect the Kinect 2.0 if they want. Me I have no problem with it. My Kinect 1.0 is always connected to my 360 anyway and my console is always online when powered up so those features of the One aren't an issue.

It certainly didn't break the One by not being always required. Don't forget it was the voice of people on the internet that caused the One to be changed before launch, so you could say it was gamers that acutally broke the console ;)

My issue is that many features they perfected over years of the 360 were not included or not working at launch of the One. Look at the launch 360 compared to the way it is now. many UI overhauls and total redesigns. Where as the PS3 UI is horrid and hasn't been updated at all over the years. Microsoft do actually listen to their customers and amend things.

I will eventually buy both consoles when I can afford them. Getting married in three months so been forbidden to purchase any new consoles till after we've paid for all of that. However both consoles better hurry up and get 3D Blu ray playback enabled ASAP.

Bogof 31-03-2014 23:49
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35685090)
IMO they never 'backed down' just changed things a bit to let people disconnect
LMAO, They said Xboxone wont work without Kinect, Gamers said fine we wont buy it then. Microsoft then BACKED DOWN and said OK we've listened and xbox now works without Kinect.

If you have a Kinect 1080p camera in your living room recording vioce or video whenever it wants (I am sure you fully read the terms agreement).

I mean you agreed to xboxone terms you agreed to letting Microsoft acessing your voice and video images whenever they want. Of course you know this, as you agreed to it. You have to agree to it, I just unplugged Kinect.

An surely you didnt buy a games console for 3D bluray playback?

Bulky 31-03-2014 23:51
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Posted before release date ......."If you want another mindlessly dumb FPS with Mechs and no brain needed to play it, Titanfall is your game.

It is like COD, apart from its crap, the novelty of Titans wears off within the first hour, then all you have is a FPS that's not as good as COD, an COD is not that good lol."

And then went and bought an xbox one just to play it ........

Tezcatlipoca 31-03-2014 23:52
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685075)
I've addressed your question.I BOUGHT A XBOXONE BECAUSE I CAN-Just like anyone else can lol. Sunk in yet?

Touchy much?


You said you had various games for the Xbox One *and* PS4 - rather than bolster your argument, this just looks foolish and a waste of money, especially given your love of graphics and hatred of the console.

You said that you only bought consoles to play exclusives not available on PC - yet you got Titanfall and COD Ghosts with your Xbox One (both available on PC), and Tomb Raider (which you have on PS4 and is also available on PC)... plus of course you said you had a £3300 PC, which really calls into question why you would buy *any* of the games you have mentioned except for MGS Ground Zeroes (the only console exclusive, but one which, strangely, you have on *both* consoles).

You said that you bought the Xbox One for Halo and Titanfall - yet Halo is not out yet (and not even dated), and you have previously slated Titanfall as being "crap".


When pressed on these strange choices or contradictory statements, you then either ignore the questions completely, or get ultra-defensive...

Sunk in yet? ;)

Gary L 31-03-2014 23:55
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
I wouldn't get an Xbox One. I hate things you can talk to.
"Xbox, play"
I don't even talk to my Ipad. it's quicker to do it yourself.

I talk to my Furby though.

Bogof 31-03-2014 23:58
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685098)
Touchy much?
Not really:confused::confused:

At some point you're going to realise you are arguing again'st my OPINION. Once you've realised that go and google what opinions mean. You will not change my opinion. When this sinks in you will undertand so much about your fellow man.

Unfortunately this is not Nazi Germany and you are not Hitler (slight over exaggeration accepted) you will at some point have to understand in my opinion XBOXONE is awful, crap, underpowered, piece of *bleep"

Stephen 01-04-2014 00:00
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685093)
LMAO, They said Xboxone wont work without Kinect, Gamers said fine we wont buy it then. Microsoft then BACKED DOWN and said OK we've listened and xbox now works without Kinect.

If you have a Kinect 1080p camera in your living room recording vioce or video whenever it wants (I am sure you fully read the terms agreement).

I mean you agreed to xboxone terms you agreed to letting Microsoft acessing your voice and video images whenever they want. Of course you know this, as you agreed to it. You have to agree to it, I just unplugged Kinect.

An surely you didnt buy a games console for 3D bluray playback?
well I use my PS3 as a Blu Ray player more than I do games now. So if I can save more space by getting rid of my launch console which is huge then all the better.

Bogof 01-04-2014 00:00
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35685101)
I wouldn't get an Xbox One. I hate things you can talk to.
"Xbox, play"
I don't even talk to my Ipad. it's quicker to do it yourself.

I talk to my Furby though.
Xboneone is aswful, its underpowered, crap as a media player, poor as a game console, and if you read a lot of reports Microsoft now want to "dump" the xbox brand within 6 months. With Amazon mentioned a possible buyer.

Stephen 01-04-2014 00:08
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685105)
Xbox one is aswful, its underpowered, crap as a media player, poor as a game console, and if you read a lot of reports Microsoft now want to "dump" the xbox brand within 6 months. With Amazon mentioned a possible buyer.
Thats just one person's OPINION so you don't actually have to take any notice of it.

Get a One if you want to. :cool:

Microsoft will never 'dump' the Xbox brand.

Bulky 01-04-2014 00:15
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685103)
Not really:confused::confused:

At some point you're going to realise you are arguing again'st my OPINION. Once you've realised that go and google what opinions mean. You will not change my opinion. When this sinks in you will undertand so much about your fellow man.

Unfortunately this is not Nazi Germany and you are not Hitler (slight over exaggeration accepted) you will at some point have to understand in my opinion XBOXONE is awful, crap, underpowered, piece of *bleep"
He's not arguing against your opinion because your opinion judging by the majority of your posts on this forum means very little , he's not even arguing and neither am I, your posts contradict themselves , your logic is none existent , if you'd said you were a spoilt spotty teenager then I could probably understand but this doesn't seem to be the case.

Tezcatlipoca 01-04-2014 00:19
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685103)
Not really:confused::confused:

At some point you're going to realise you are arguing again'st my OPINION. Once you've realised that go and google what opinions mean. You will not change my opinion. When this sinks in you will undertand so much about your fellow man.

Unfortunately this is not Nazi Germany and you are not Hitler (slight over exaggeration accepted) you will at some point have to understand in my opinion XBOXONE is awful, crap, underpowered, piece of *bleep"
Have you ever heard of Godwin's Law? ;)



As for your opinion... Yes, it is your opinion that the Xbox One is "awful" and "crap" and so on. I am not questioning that - it is your right to have an opinion, no matter how badly articulated it may be.


What I am questioning is your bizarre choices and your contradictory statements.

As in:


You said you had various games for the Xbox One *and* PS4 - rather than bolster your argument, this just looks foolish and a waste of money, especially given your love of graphics and hatred of the console.

You said that you only bought consoles to play exclusives not available on PC - yet you got Titanfall and COD Ghosts with your Xbox One (both available on PC), and Tomb Raider (which you have on PS4 and is also available on PC)... plus of course you said you had a £3300 PC, which really calls into question why you would buy *any* of the games you have mentioned except for MGS Ground Zeroes (the only console exclusive, but one which, strangely, you have on *both* consoles).

You said that you bought the Xbox One for Halo and Titanfall - yet Halo is not out yet (and not even dated), and you have previously slated Titanfall as being "crap".


When pressed on these strange choices or contradictory statements, you then either ignore the questions completely, or get ultra-defensive...

Bogof 01-04-2014 00:37
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685117)
Have you ever heard of Godwin's Law? ;)



As for your opinion... Yes, it is your opinion that the Xbox One is "awful" and "crap" and so on. I am not questioning that - it is your right to have an opinion, no matter how badly articulated it may be.


What I am questioning is your bizarre choices and your contradictory statements.

As in:


You said you had various games for the Xbox One *and* PS4 - rather than bolster your argument, this just looks foolish and a waste of money, especially given your love of graphics and hatred of the console.

You said that you only bought consoles to play exclusives not available on PC - yet you got Titanfall and COD Ghosts with your Xbox One (both available on PC), and Tomb Raider (which you have on PS4 and is also available on PC)... plus of course you said you had a £3300 PC, which really calls into question why you would buy *any* of the games you have mentioned except for MGS Ground Zeroes (the only console exclusive, but one which, strangely, you have on *both* consoles).

You said that you bought the Xbox One for Halo and Titanfall - yet Halo is not out yet (and not even dated), and you have previously slated Titanfall as being "crap".


When pressed on these strange choices or contradictory statements, you then either ignore the questions completely, or get ultra-defensive...
I'm neither ignoring or getting defensive- ok here goes I BOUGHT A XBOXONE BECAUSE I CAN. It really is that simple.

An I think it's rubbish when compared to PS4. Ok? Happy?

Oh an Godwin's law does not apply here. As you seem to be demanding I explain to you what I choose to spend my wages on. You can't cope with the fact I bought an xboxone because I can.

I understand some need to save £750 to by both, I don't .

Stephen 01-04-2014 01:14
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
I don't have to save. I mentioned I am paying for a wedding. That's taking all my money right now. Otherwise I could get both in a month.

adzii_nufc 01-04-2014 02:44
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
I have both.. Compared to my PC they're always going to look crap? Anyone with a brain could understand that.. But then find me a game like Uncharted on PC. Sure it doesn't run at 1080p but it's easily one of the greatest games ever. Same applies to gears of war and so on. I enjoyed the hell out Forza 4 despite having Projects Cars and LFS on PC..

I'm not really a fan of the Xbox or PS4 but I'm a fan of the games.

Bogof reminds me of the south park *as burgers episode.

Tezcatlipoca 01-04-2014 02:53
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685120)
I'm neither ignoring or getting defensive- ok here goes I BOUGHT A XBOXONE BECAUSE I CAN. It really is that simple.

An I think it's rubbish when compared to PS4. Ok? Happy?

Oh an Godwin's law does not apply here. As you seem to be demanding I explain to you what I choose to spend my wages on. You can't cope with the fact I bought an xboxone because I can.

I understand some need to save £750 to by both, I don't .
I can cope with the fact you bought both, I just don't understand it. And I could quite easily buy a PS4 now if I wanted, but I have neither the space nor the connections to have one and keep my PS3, which I won't ditch until the PS4 (or Xbox One) has feature parity, or an ND game comes out. This is not jealousy over your ability to buy both or your £3300 PC, it is confusion caused by your frankly ridiculous posts.

I don't understand it because you clearly hate it.

I don't understand it because it was widely known *before* you bought it that it was worse than the PS4 at what you cherish the most - graphics, so why did you still buy it? Did you somehow avoid hearing about "resolutiongate" over the past four months? You must surely have known before you bought it that it would be outperformed by the PS4? Or did you just buy it so that you could complain about it?

I don't understand it because you claim to have a £3300 über-PC and claim that you only buy consoles to play exclusives, yet you have both of the new consoles and not only bizarrely have some of the same games for both consoles but also have games for one or both that are actually also available for your £3300 PC, games that are not console exclusive and which would perform amazingly well on your £3300 PC - far better than on an Xbox One or even on a PS4.

I don't understand it because you said you bought it for Halo and Titanfall, even though there is currently no Halo game for the Xbox One (except for that crap twin-stick one) and even though you have previously said, just a few weeks ago, that Titanfall is "crap".

And yes, you are ignoring the questions and you are going on the defensive. Repeatedly.

*You* told us about a variety of strange choices you had made & *you* made contradictory statements. You can't expect to say what you did and not get called on it...

I asked about those things, you ignored me.

I asked again, and you replied with "because". Which really is a rather poor answer, especially given what you had previously been posting. It's the kind of answer a child gives, "BECAUSE!".

As I said before, I am not arguing with or challenging your opinion regarding the Xbox One being crap... I'm just asking about the following:

You said you had various games for the Xbox One *and* PS4 - rather than bolster your argument, this just looks foolish and a waste of money, especially given your love of graphics and hatred of the console.

You said that you only bought consoles to play exclusives not available on PC - yet you got Titanfall and COD Ghosts with your Xbox One (both available on PC), and Tomb Raider (which you have on PS4 and is also available on PC)... plus of course you said you had a £3300 PC, which really calls into question why you would buy *any* of the games you have mentioned except for MGS Ground Zeroes (the only console exclusive, but one which, strangely, you have on *both* consoles).

You said that you bought the Xbox One for Halo and Titanfall - yet Halo is not out yet (and not even dated), and you have previously slated Titanfall as being "crap".

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Oh, and here's Godwin's Law:

Quote:
Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" [2][3]—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

(snip)

There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[3] than others.[1] For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.[8] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.
... and here is what you said:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685103)
Unfortunately this is not Nazi Germany and you are not Hitler (slight over exaggeration accepted) you will at some point have to understand in my opinion XBOXONE is awful, crap, underpowered, piece of *bleep"
And as I pointed out before, I was not challenging your opinion - you can believe whatever you want about the Xbox One. I am questioning your bizarre choices and your contradictory statements...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35685136)
I have both.. Compared to my PC they're always going to look crap? Anyone with a brain could understand that.. But then find me a game like Uncharted on PC. Sure it doesn't run at 1080p but it's easily one of the greatest games ever. Same applies to gears of war and so on. I enjoyed the hell out Forza 4 despite having Projects Cars and LFS on PC..

I'm not really a fan of the Xbox or PS4 but I'm a fan of the games.

Bogof reminds me of the south park *as burgers episode.
Tomb Raider! ;) :D *

But yes, a gaming PC will always be better than a console for pure grunt and graphical power, yet there are plenty of console games that - despite not having the graphics of a PC game - are still bloody good *games*.



* [Although Uncharted is probably a bit more cinematic, and definitely has better supporting characters]

adzii_nufc 01-04-2014 02:56
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
One of you grab a screenie of Titanfall when you can from your Xbox ones. I'll screenie it at 1080p when I get home and we'll set him off again :D

Bogof 01-04-2014 06:51
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685137)
I can cope with the fact you bought both, I just don't understand it. And I could quite easily buy a PS4 now if I wanted, but I have neither the space nor the connections to have one and keep my PS3, which I won't ditch until the PS4 (or Xbox One) has feature parity, or an ND game comes out. This is not jealousy over your ability to buy both or your £3300 PC, it is confusion caused by your frankly ridiculous posts.

I don't understand it because you clearly hate it.

I don't understand it because it was widely known *before* you bought it that it was worse than the PS4 at what you cherish the most - graphics, so why did you still buy it? Did you somehow avoid hearing about "resolutiongate" over the past four months? You must surely have known before you bought it that it would be outperformed by the PS4? Or did you just buy it so that you could complain about it?

I don't understand it because you claim to have a £3300 über-PC and claim that you only buy consoles to play exclusives, yet you have both of the new consoles and not only bizarrely have some of the same games for both consoles but also have games for one or both that are actually also available for your £3300 PC, games that are not console exclusive and which would perform amazingly well on your £3300 PC - far better than on an Xbox One or even on a PS4.

I don't understand it because you said you bought it for Halo and Titanfall, even though there is currently no Halo game for the Xbox One (except for that crap twin-stick one) and even though you have previously said, just a few weeks ago, that Titanfall is "crap".

And yes, you are ignoring the questions and you are going on the defensive. Repeatedly.

*You* told us about a variety of strange choices you had made & *you* made contradictory statements. You can't expect to say what you did and not get called on it...

I asked about those things, you ignored me.

I asked again, and you replied with "because". Which really is a rather poor answer, especially given what you had previously been posting. It's the kind of answer a child gives, "BECAUSE!".

As I said before, I am not arguing with or challenging your opinion regarding the Xbox One being crap... I'm just asking about the following:

You said you had various games for the Xbox One *and* PS4 - rather than bolster your argument, this just looks foolish and a waste of money, especially given your love of graphics and hatred of the console.

You said that you only bought consoles to play exclusives not available on PC - yet you got Titanfall and COD Ghosts with your Xbox One (both available on PC), and Tomb Raider (which you have on PS4 and is also available on PC)... plus of course you said you had a £3300 PC, which really calls into question why you would buy *any* of the games you have mentioned except for MGS Ground Zeroes (the only console exclusive, but one which, strangely, you have on *both* consoles).

You said that you bought the Xbox One for Halo and Titanfall - yet Halo is not out yet (and not even dated), and you have previously slated Titanfall as being "crap".

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Oh, and here's Godwin's Law:



... and here is what you said:



And as I pointed out before, I was not challenging your opinion - you can believe whatever you want about the Xbox One. I am questioning your bizarre choices and your contradictory statements...

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Tomb Raider! ;) :D *

But yes, a gaming PC will always be better than a console for pure grunt and graphical power, yet there are plenty of console games that - despite not having the graphics of a PC game - are still bloody good *games*.



* [Although Uncharted is probably a bit more cinematic, and definitely has better supporting characters]
Ya, xboxone is crap in my opinion- thanks for the essay I might read it one day.;-)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35685139)
One of you grab a screenie of Titanfall when you can from your Xbox ones. I'll screenie it at 1080p when I get home and we'll set him off again :D
Nah I will just wait for the Titanfall 4k update on PC. Then download a demo an screen shot that . Although unless ya have a 4k monitor you won't get the benefit.

adzii_nufc 01-04-2014 07:09
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
So what you really mean is you're going to buy the game you said was a pile of crap? :erm:

Bogof 01-04-2014 07:41
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35685153)
So what you really mean is you're going to buy the game you said was a pile of crap? :erm:
I have titanfall on xboxone. Don't really play it much the awful screen tearing at times an frame rate drops ruin it. An I won't be BUYING a demo.

adzii_nufc 01-04-2014 08:35
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
So how do you plan on playing it at this 4K you speak of? I was unaware EA offered demo's on always online games. :rolleyes:

peanut 01-04-2014 09:24
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
So basically the Xbox One at the moment isn't worth the asking price. That you can't argue with. Unfortunately for some, they've paid over the odds for something that doesn't work very well out of the box, that's not good enough in my opinion. I reckon they should at least compensate those that have bought the console the day it was released.

Personally I have many friends who all have 360s (the same with the PS3) and none have chosen to get the XB1, they too are waiting to see how things pan out between that and the PS4. So far it's not looking good for the XB1, so I can see why it's not selling very well. We do like to play against each other but there's no reason yet to warrant any kind of change.

I'm all for hearing bad reviews too, though it's not hard to find them at the mo. I have the usual trouble is believing most review sites these days so I'd rather go on opinions from people that have them.

The way this thread has gone sums up CF pretty well. Poor in my opinion.

Bogof 01-04-2014 09:29
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35685172)
So basically the Xbox One at the moment isn't worth the asking price. That you can't argue with. Unfortunately for some, they've paid over the odds for something that doesn't work very well out of the box, that's not good enough in my opinion. I reckon they should at least compensate those that have bought the console the day it was released.

Personally I have many friends who all have 360s (the same with the PS3) and none have chosen to get the XB1, they too are waiting to see how things pan out between that and the PS4. So far it's not looking good for the XB1, so I can see why it's not selling very well. We do like to play against each other but there's no reason yet to warrant any kind of change.

I'm all for hearing bad reviews too, though it's not hard to find them at the mo. I have the usual trouble is believing most review sites these days so I'd rather go on opinions from people that have them.

The way this thread has gone sums up CF pretty well. Poor in my opinion.
My honest straight up unbiased advice is you want one of the nextgen consoles buy a PS4. Although waiting before you buy either maybe wiser.

But plain an simple the xboxone is a mess. The Operating system is junk, the games struggle, xboxlive's social features are pretty much broke.

dilli-theclaw 01-04-2014 09:51
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685173)
My honest straight up unbiased advice is you want one of the nextgen consoles buy a PS4. Although waiting before you buy either maybe wiser.

But plain an simple the xboxone is a mess. The Operating system is junk, the games struggle, xboxlive's social features are pretty much broke.
With all due respect you've just spent several pages telling us how crap the xbox one is you cannot possibly tell anyone you have an unbiased opinion / advice on it!

Bogof 01-04-2014 09:56
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35685176)
With all due respect you've just spent several pages telling us how crap the xbox one is you cannot possibly tell anyone you have an unbiased opinion / advice on it!
On what basis could I be considered biased? I had a 360 from launch really enjoyed it. Have had a few gamertags along the way and my current one has a 5 year tenure.

I have spent lots of money on xboxlive/xbox360 games/accessories. But somehow Microsoft have managed to break everything that was good about xbox. Unfortunately people like me, gamers who would of naturally moved onto a xboxone are choosing PS4. An there is a reason,

dilli-theclaw 01-04-2014 09:58
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685178)
On what basis could I be considered biased? I had a 360 from launch really enjoyed it. Have had a few gamertags along the way and my current one has a 5 year tenure.

I have spent lots of money on xboxlive/xbox360 games/accessories. But somehow Microsoft have managed to break everything that was good about xbox.
On the basis you've just spent several pages telling everyone how crap it is. Do keep up.

Bogof 01-04-2014 10:10
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35685179)
On the basis you've just spent several pages telling everyone how crap it is. Do keep up.
ITS ONLY MY OPINION, Understand, other have said they think the console is good. So am I to assume they're also biased? Or are are they simply offering up an opinion?:confused:

dilli-theclaw 01-04-2014 10:15
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685185)
ITS ONLY MY OPINION, Understand, other have said they think the console is good. So am I to assume they're also biased? Or are are they simply offering up an opinion?:confused:
You don't need to shout I know it's your opinion. Others have said it's good yes. YOU have just spent several pages slagging it off though.

Also I didn't say you shouldn't offer your opinion just that the claim it was unbiased was ludicrous.

peanut 01-04-2014 10:16
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
I think he means by the way you've said it. Say you think it's crap once - unbiased, say it 100 times - unbiased. Then state on the 101st time 'my unbiased opinion it's crap' = void.

Or you can see it that if you're been consistent and emphasising as a whole, then it is still unbiased.

Tezcatlipoca 01-04-2014 14:46
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685151)
Ya, xboxone is crap in my opinion- thanks for the essay I might read it one day.;-)

Despite your previous claim, it seems that you are still ignoring the questions. As I said before, I am not questioning your opinion that the Xbox One is "crap" - I am questioning your strange choices and contradictory statements.

So, again, can you explain the following?...

You said you had various games for the Xbox One *and* PS4 - rather than bolster your argument, this just looks foolish and a waste of money, especially given your love of graphics and hatred of the console.

You said that you only bought consoles to play exclusives not available on PC - yet you got Titanfall and COD Ghosts with your Xbox One (both available on PC), and Tomb Raider (which you have on PS4 and is also available on PC)... plus of course you said you had a £3300 PC, which really calls into question why you would buy *any* of the games you have mentioned except for MGS Ground Zeroes (the only console exclusive, but one which, strangely, you have on *both* consoles).

You said that you bought the Xbox One for Halo and Titanfall - yet Halo is not out yet (and not even dated), and you have previously slated Titanfall as being "crap".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685151)
Nah I will just wait for the Titanfall 4k update on PC. Then download a demo an screen shot that . Although unless ya have a 4k monitor you won't get the benefit.

Why didn't you just get it on PC in the first place, instead of buying an Xbox One for it?

You know, given that you previously said that you have a "very very powerful PC that cost £3300 to build in december 2013" and that you only buy consoles "for the exclusives that will not appear on PC"...

Of course, as you also previously said that it is a "mindlessly dumb FPS with Mechs and no brain needed to play it" and that it is "like COD, apart from its crap", then why did you buy it at all anyway? :confused:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685156)
I have titanfall on xboxone. Don't really play it much the awful screen tearing at times an frame rate drops ruin it. An I won't be BUYING a demo.
The screen tear and framerate issues on the Xbox One version of Titanfall were well known before you bought it... They were even known about during the beta (which you took part in). I find it hard to believe that someone so obsessed with graphical performance would not have read about the issues with Titanfall's performance on the Xbox One, nor noticed them himself when playing the beta.


So:

- Given that the technical issues with the Xbox One version of Titanfall were known about before you bought your Xbox One + Titanfall.

- And given that you played and hated the Titanfall beta before you bought your Xbox One + Titanfall.

- And given that even if you did actually like Titanfall, rather than consider it to be "crap", you would obviously have been better off getting it for your £3300 PC rather than the Xbox One.

- And given that you previously claimed you only buy consoles for exclusives, because you have a £3300 PC for everything else.

... Then why oh why did you buy an Xbox One with Titanfall?

Why claim you only buy consoles for exclusives, and yet later claim that you bought the Xbox One for Titanfall (which is not exclusive)? [and why buy other games that are not exclusives]

Why say you think that Titanfall is "crap", and yet later claim that you bought the Xbox One for Titanfall?


All of the issues you have with the Xbox One were well known before you bought it, so why buy it? For the exclusives? But you clearly didn't get it for exclusives. For Titanfall? But you hate Titanfall.

Do you deliberately buy things you know that you will hate just so that you can rant about them online? :confused:

Bogof 01-04-2014 15:36
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Mat, I BOUGHT AN XBOX- BECAUSE I CAN simple. You've got a real boner for this haven't ya kid
. Your strange concern for how I spend my wages is quite cute though. But it's none of your concern.

Derek 01-04-2014 16:10
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685241)
Mat, I BOUGHT AN XBOX- BECAUSE I CAN simple
I've some magic beans I can sell you. The graphics are terrible but it'll give you something slightly more relevant to moan about.

I fail to see your whole thinking behind this thread, other than a willy waving contest about your very expensive computer. The graphical differences between the X1 and PS4 were already well known to anyone with the slightest interest in gaming.

To buy one knowing this and then moan about it is pretty strange IMO.

Stephen 01-04-2014 16:12
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Because I can isn't really an answer though. It's just a cop out.

Like asking why I stood one one leg for an hour and giving because I can as the answer.

You must really have WANTED the console and the game, If you already knew of the console limitations and issues.

Any normal person would have just bought it for PC if they had a £3300 gaming rig.

Bogof 01-04-2014 16:17
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35685252)
Because I can isn't really an answer though. It's just a cop out.

Like asking why I stood one one leg for an hour and giving because I can as the answer.

You must really have WANTED the console and the game, If you already knew of the console limitations and issues.

Any normal person would have just bought it for PC if they had a £3300 gaming rig.
I saw it on a good offer, I bought it, it's a bit crap. I'm not losing any sleep.

No one here ever impulse buy?

Stephen 01-04-2014 17:23
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Impulse buy yes but usually sweets or a game not an actual console or anything expensive. I've normally thought about something like that and know I want one.

If that was me and I had a £3300 PC I would have just bought the game for PC as it would look better and also be a lot cheaper especially knowing the graphical issues the game has on the One.

Bogof 01-04-2014 17:33
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35685262)
Impulse buy yes but usually sweets or a game not an actual console or anything expensive. I've normally thought about something like that and know I want one.

If that was me and I had a £3300 PC I would have just bought the game for PC as it would look better and also be a lot cheaper especially knowing the graphical issues the game has on the One.
Like you said "if it was me" well it wasn't you it was me so that's settled that. You do know that there is no need for you to understand why I buy the things I do. God damn 3 weeks ago on a trip to birmingham I bought 3 pairs on levis 501's an guess what? I bought another pair of jeans today.

MadGamer 01-04-2014 18:07
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Microsoft know that there are problems with the Xbox one at the moment, which is why they are continually improving it, albeit slowly, with system updates/OS updates, as other people have said, games at the moment don't run at 1080p, because developers need to get to grips with the system to take full advantage of its capabilities. Yes sure there are broken features, but as I said above in this post Microsoft are fixing the problems slowly and are responding to customer feedback

Bogof 01-04-2014 18:22
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadGamer (Post 35685270)
Microsoft know that there are problems with the Xbox one at the moment, which is why they are continually improving it, albeit slowly, with system updates/OS updates, as other people have said, games at the moment don't run at 1080p, because developers need to get to grips with the system to take full advantage of its capabilities. Yes sure there are broken features, but as I said above in this post Microsoft are fixing the problems slowly and are responding to customer feedback
Wahoooo a comment about the actual xboxone, not how I choose spend to money. You raise some good points, I hope you're right because right now the console is a mess.

Stephen 01-04-2014 18:39
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685275)
Wahoooo a comment about the actual xboxone, not how I choose spend to money. You raise some good points, I hope you're right because right now the console is a mess.
Funny that. I mentioned most of those points in my posts on more than one occasion. But like some other posts you chose to ignore them.

However buying something you already know has faults and issues is stupid. It's even more stupid to start a thread slating a console when you didn't need to purchase it at all. Due to the problems you knew about.

Would be like buying a car with a flat tyre then complaining to folk that it had a flat tyre.

Bogof 01-04-2014 18:45
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35685279)
Funny that. I mentioned most of those points in my posts on more than one occasion. But like some other posts you chose to ignore them.

However buying something you already know has faults and issues is stupid. It's even more stupid to start a thread slating a console when you didn't need to purchase it at all. Due to the problems you knew about.

Would be like buying a car with a flat tyre then complaining to folk that it had a flat tyre.
Do not worry about what I choose to spend my money on. I'm sure you have far more important things in your life eh kidda.

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Right taking mrs an kids out for the evening, it's such lovely sunshine right now. Please continue to leave your comments I will reply at some point.

MadGamer 01-04-2014 19:13
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Sure the Xbox one has it's faults, I just haven't experienced them yet, and if I have I haven't realised or taken any notice, but I enjoy it for the games and features, sure the graphics look great, but that wasn't the only reason I bought an Xbox One

Tezcatlipoca 01-04-2014 21:24
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685241)
Mat, I BOUGHT AN XBOX- BECAUSE I CAN simple. You've got a real boner for this haven't ya kid
. Your strange concern for how I spend my wages is quite cute though. But it's none of your concern.
Ah, "because" again, rather than actually explaining your illogical choices or explaining why you have been contradicting yourself.


If you consider my questioning, or that of other people, to be "personal" and think it's none of my concern or anyone else's, then it's your own fault - you opened yourself up to these questions.

If you did not want people to question your illogical choices, you should not have told us about your illogical choices.

If you did not want people to question your contradictory statements, you should not have posted contradictory statements.



You really should have got your story straight before you started this thread, then it may have gone the way you wanted and you wouldn't have myself or others asking you simple questions about what you have been claiming, questions you keep dodging.


Instead of getting angry because of your illogical purchase, why not just sell it. I'd bet it would make you a happier person to not have such a hated console that you really never should have bought in the first place, given everything you have posted. It is not too late to fix your regrets.

Bogof 01-04-2014 21:36
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685329)
Snip.
You type so much crazy nonsense lol, I bought an xboxone - as a owner of xboxone it think it's crap. Deal with it and stop getting ya knickers in a twist lol.

Oh an the xboxone was an impulse buy. That should stop your next 20 paragraph dummy spitting crying session.

Oh, any what's your obsession with the word hate lol. Such a strong emotion when talking about a kids video game console. I think crap is quite strong enough.

So no more asking why I bought it.I was walking past game they had a deal that effectively meant I paid £290 for the oboxone. So on an impulse I bought it. An it's rubbish, I understand you paid £429 for yours LMAO you got done kid lol.

I'm not dodging your questions you're choosing not to listen to the answer. My xboxone purchase was an impulse buy. An it's a crap mess of a console lol.

Ohh an the deal also included the stereo headset. So I guess the console was around £230.

My advice to anyone who wants a new console is to buy the PS4 it is just better.

An I'm not blaming anyone neither am I bitter. I just think the xbone is very very poor.

Tezcatlipoca 01-04-2014 22:02
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Crazy nonsense? Really?

I have no dummy to spit out, have not been crying, and have stayed calm and focussed throughout. You, on the other hand, have been ranting. You have been defensive and evasive when asked the very simple questions that I asked - questions that were only asked because of the mixture of illogical and contradictory things you have been saying. Oh and to top it off, you even raised a Nazi comparison earlier in the thread...


You said you bought consoles for exclusives you could not get for your £3300 PC.

This cannot be true, plus makes no sense, because the two games you bought with it are not exclusive, nor are the other games you have mentioned - all bar Titanfall are on PS4 and all bar MGS GZ are on Windows PC.


Then you said you bought it for Halo and Titanfall.

This also cannot be true, plus also makes no sense, because Halo is not out (and does not even have a release date) and more importantly because you previously slated Titanfall and said it was, amongst other things, "crap".


Your latest claim is simply that it was an "impulse buy" and that the reason you bought it is... "because".

While I do not know if this is true or not, it also makes no logical sense, given that you quite clearly place such a high importance on graphics, and given that you must have known about the Xbox One's inferior graphical power compared to your PS4 & especially your £3300 PC, and given that all the games you have for it would be better on your PS4 and/or PC (with you even having some of them on both Xbox One and PS4)... Why throw your money away on something that you must have known was pointless for you given that you have a PS4 and PC? Why throw your money away on something that you must have known would most definitely not please you when it came to graphics?


We all make impulse buys, but yours seems to have been a ridiculously ill-thought out mistake given the systems you already own and given your obsession with graphics. Not bitter? Really? This whole thread (and other posts in other threads) reeks of the enormous bitterness and regret that you must surely feel from making such a poor (or uninformed?) choice.

Bogof 01-04-2014 22:10
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Matt, get laid.

Tezcatlipoca 01-04-2014 22:17
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
:rofl:

I take it that means that you are still unwilling or unable to explain why you kept contradicting yourself?

Fair enough, you don't want to admit it.

I still think you'd be much better off if you sold it, then you could let go of your bitterness and concentrate on PC/PS4 gaming instead of going around ranting about the Xbox One all the time ;) :)

Bogof 01-04-2014 22:23
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685343)
:rofl:

I take it that means that you are still unwilling or unable to explain why you kept contradicting yourself?

Fair enough, you don't want to admit it.

I still think you'd be much better off if you sold it, then you could let go of your bitterness and concentrate on PC/PS4 gaming instead of going around ranting about the Xbox One all the time ;) :)
No contradictions here. I bought the xboxone on an impulse buy and it's crap. How simple can it be. I have said this consistently to you but you don't seem capable of taking this on board. But don't worry I'm not going anywhere and will keep repeating myself until it eventually sinks in.


But now you're demanding I sell it after demanding an explanation as to why I bought it lol.

Stuart 01-04-2014 22:26
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685075)
I've addressed your question.I BOUGHT A XBOXONE BECAUSE I CAN-Just like anyone else can lol. Sunk in yet?

Ya know, I have several radio stations preset into my car radio. Even though radio 1 plays all the songs CaptialFM plays. I still occasionally switch between to the 2 for certain shows.
The difference being that I assume you didn't spend several hundred pounds on a radio just so you could listen to different stations.

Personally, I can afford both consoles, but I've taken the decision to wait and see which console has games that *interest* me. I did that when I chose an Xbox 360 and also when I chose both a PS2 and Xbox. IMO, it's nice to have good graphics, and given the choice between running a game at 720P or 1080P, I'll choose 1080P with as much detail as the machine I am using (be it a Console or PC) or game can muster. But, even with the best graphics currently available, if a game has a crap storyline or is simply not well designed, I am not interested.

It's also worth remembering that Stephen is right, the first couple of generations of games for *any* console are not the best (with a few exceptions) on that console. It takes developers a while to work out how to get the best from a machine. Want proof? Compare the early PS3/Xbox 360 games against the latest ones.

One final point. With the budgets for the larger games increasing (and in some cases being higher than budgets for major films), I think the days of the console exclusive are limited. I think you'll find that while games may carry on launching on one console or the other several days or weeks before the other console, unless Sony or Microsoft invest some serious money in game developers, the only way those developers will make a profit (or even cover their costs) is to ensure the games are released on as many platforms as possible.

Bogof 01-04-2014 22:29
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35685346)
The difference being that I assume you didn't spend several hundred pounds on a radio just so you could listen to different stations.

Personally, I can afford both consoles, but I've taken the decision to wait and see which console has games that *interest* me. I did that when I chose an Xbox 360 and also when I chose both a PS2 and Xbox. IMO, it's nice to have good graphics, and given the choice between running a game at 720P or 1080P, I'll choose 1080P with as much detail as the machine I am using (be it a Console or PC) or game can muster. But, even with the best graphics currently available, if a game has a crap storyline or is simply not well designed, I am not interested.

Cool story bro.

Bulky 01-04-2014 22:33
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685341)
Matt, get laid.
Yet again you seem to me acting like a spoilt spotty little child, I find it hard to believe any of your claims to be honest and would go as far as to think your head may be full of internet magic as all you post are childish comments/replies with no mature reasoning or structure to your posts.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685348)
Cool story bro.
And again

Tezcatlipoca 01-04-2014 22:34
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685345)
No contradictions here. I bought the xboxone on an impulse buy and it's crap. How simple can it be. I have said this consistently to you but you don't seem capable of taking this on board. But don't worry I'm not going anywhere and will keep repeating myself until it eventually sinks in.


But now you're demanding I sell it after demanding an explanation as to why I bought it lol.
You have been anything but consistent when it comes to why you got it. The only thing that has been consistent is that you don't like it.


I've posted your contradictions more than once:

e.g. in my recent post:

Quote:
You said you bought consoles for exclusives you could not get for your £3300 PC.

This cannot be true, plus makes no sense, because the two games you bought with it are not exclusive, nor are the other games you have mentioned - all bar Titanfall are on PS4 and all bar MGS GZ are on Windows PC.


Then you said you bought it for Halo and Titanfall.

This also cannot be true, plus also makes no sense, because Halo is not out (and does not even have a release date) and more importantly because you previously slated Titanfall and said it was, amongst other things, "crap".


Your latest claim is simply that it was an "impulse buy" and that the reason you bought it is... "because".

While I do not know if this is true or not, it also makes no logical sense, given that you quite clearly place such a high importance on graphics, and given that you must have known about the Xbox One's inferior graphical power compared to your PS4 & especially your £3300 PC, and given that all the games you have for it would be better on your PS4 and/or PC (with you even having some of them on both Xbox One and PS4)... Why throw your money away on something that you must have known was pointless for you given that you have a PS4 and PC? Why throw your money away on something that you must have known would most definitely not please you when it came to graphics?
Or this one, which even has links to your past claims.


And I'm not demanding you sell it... I just think it makes the most sense, and I would have thought you'd see that yourself (then again, probably not...). You do, after all, think that it is crap. And you do, after all, also have a PS4 that you can play all the same games on except for Titanfall (which you think is "crap" anyway). And you do, after all, also have a £3300 PC that you can play all the same games on except for MGS GZ. And you do, after all, place graphics above all else. So it really makes no sense as to why you bought it (especially given the previous claims you made before the latest "impulse buy" claim) and really makes no sense as to why you still own it. Unless it's just as a way of justifying your rabid criticism of it, so you can say "I have an Xbox One and it is crap" instead of simply "The Xbox One is crap".

Stuart 01-04-2014 22:37
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685348)
Cool story bro.
There was I thinking I could have a rational debate with you. Clearly, I was wrong.

Bogof 01-04-2014 22:44
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685352)
You have been anything but consistent when it comes to why you got it. The only thing that has been consistent is that you don't like it.


I've posted your contradictions more than once:

e.g. in my recent post:



Or this one, which even has links to your past claims.


And I'm not demanding you sell it... I just think it makes the most sense, and I would have thought you'd see that yourself (then again, probably not...). You do, after all, think that it is crap. And you do, after all, also have a PS4 that you can play all the same games on except for Titanfall (which you think is "crap" anyway). And you do, after all, also have a £3300 PC that you can play all the same games on except for MGS GZ. And you do, after all, place graphics above all else. So it really makes no sense as to why you bought it (especially given the previous claims you made before the latest "impulse buy" claim) and really makes no sense as to why you still own it. Unless it's just as a way of justifying your rabid criticism of it, so you can say "I have an Xbox One and it is crap" instead of simply "The Xbox One is crap".
Matt, all I'm hearing is someone who paid £429 for an xboxone and needs to convince themselves it was worth it. I can tell you right it wasn't.

If you bought an xboxone today you get a lot more for a lot less, that must hurt matt. But ya know, it's not my fault. But if I paid £429 for it, I really would be peed off.

Stephen 01-04-2014 22:56
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
I think someone needs to head back under the bridge!

No possibility of a rational conversation with it.

---------- Post added at 21:56 ---------- Previous post was at 21:53 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685356)
Matt, all I'm hearing is someone who paid £429 for an xboxone and needs to convince themselves it was worth it. I can tell you right it wasn't.

If you bought an xboxone today you get a lot more for a lot less, that must hurt matt. But ya know, it's not my fault. But if I paid £429 for it, I really would be peed off.
Yet as you claimed previously you had a PS4 and a mega PC so had no need for an Xbox One, however then went and bought one anyway and start a thread to try and totally slag the console off when you actually knew all that information before you spent your money. So really shouldn't be coming here and ranting about the consoles problems as you knew about them before purchasing.

As I put it earlier like buying a car with a flat tyre and then whinging about the flat tyre. Its just silly and pointless.

Sell the console and move on.

Tezcatlipoca 01-04-2014 23:35
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685356)
Matt, all I'm hearing is someone who paid £429 for an xboxone and needs to convince themselves it was worth it. I can tell you right it wasn't.

If you bought an xboxone today you get a lot more for a lot less, that must hurt matt. But ya know, it's not my fault. But if I paid £429 for it, I really would be peed off.
I don't actually care - unlike you I like my Xbox One. I also understand the perils of being an early adopter. Plus I was fully aware of the various issues with the Xbox One (seemingly unlike you, unless you did know of all the issues but bought one anyway even though it would have been blatantly obvious that you would immediately dislike it? Either way, it's a very stupid decision you made...)...


But, seeing as you think it is "crap" and "not worth it", why did you buy yours?

Was it claim number one, for the exclusive games? Even though the games you have are all available on PS4 (which you have) and/or PC (which you have)...

Was it claim number two, for Halo and Titanfall? Even though Halo has not even been dated let alone released, even though Titanfall is also available on PC, and even though you previously said that Titanfall is "crap"...

Was it claim number three (the current one), where you now say that it was simply an "impulse buy" and that the reason you bought it is... "Because".


Which of these contradictory claims is true?

Why did you buy it, given that you must have known beforehand what it was like? You must have known about "Resolutiongate" and the UI and Kinect and so on and so on...

Why do you still have it, now that you have experienced first-hand what it is like and can get (or already have!) the same games on PS4 and PC, where you know they will perform better?

Bogof 02-04-2014 00:08
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Seriously- this thing is **** pants poor. It seems watchdogs is going to be seriously better on PS4 than it is on xboxone.

Better graphics, better physics, more content. That's it my kids getting the short straw, the xboxone is going in their bedroom like it or lump it. Yes I'm a bad dad.


Oh an matt, it was an impulse buy, although I have told you this several times but you're seem incapable of understanding this.

Stephen 02-04-2014 00:29
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Just sell the damn thing if its really that bad!!!!

personally I think this thread has run its course and has no where left to go.

SnoopZ 02-04-2014 01:36
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35685377)
Just sell the damn thing if its really that bad!!!!

personally I think this thread has run its course and has no where left to go.
I agree I am surprised he was left to troll so long.

Tezcatlipoca 02-04-2014 01:46
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685376)
Oh an matt, it was an impulse buy, although I have told you this several times but you're seem incapable of understanding this.
I would understand it if that had been your story from the beginning of this thread, but it has not been... I have posted your inconsistent claims multiple times now, and you still ignore and evade the questions...



As I said earlier tonight, you really should have got your story straight before you started this thread.

MadGamer 02-04-2014 07:32
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685356)
Matt, all I'm hearing is someone who paid £429 for an xboxone and needs to convince themselves it was worth it. I can tell you right it wasn't.

If you bought an xboxone today you get a lot more for a lot less, that must hurt matt. But ya know, it's not my fault. But if I paid £429 for it, I really would be peed off.
I don't think it was a waste at launch, I got a day one edition with FIFA, I also bought CoD and Forza at launch too, because those games interest me, though I have now bought Battlefield 4 and deleted CoD.

Bogof 02-04-2014 09:45
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35685383)
I would understand it if that had been your story from the beginning of this thread, but it has not been... I have posted your inconsistent claims multiple times now, and you still ignore and evade the questions...



As I said earlier tonight, you really should have got your story straight before you started this thread.
Wow lol, you're stark raving mad...

I was always going to get a xboxone for certain games I want to play. I was NEVER paying £429 for the thing though, thats a pee take. I saw it on offer when I was looking for something else, I BOUGHT IT...Ya see, do you understand the freedom and choice with have in the UK?

An once we have used our freedom and choice to buy something, an we then find it to be a bit rubbish. We're free to go to the internet and tell people its rubbish. I think the fact you paid the stupid price of £429 for your xboxone makes you feel the need to justify it. No one cares, you got riped off you paid to much.

You can go out now and buy the titanfall bunble with Forza 5 for £349. My local game store has 18!! preowned xboxones. The trade in price is now £200 from £330 then £280 then £250 then £230 an now £200.

Thats because so many people bought one, found it to be not very good and traded it in for a PS4. I already have both ;) and my xboxone was part of an amazing weekend only bundle. So I paid nowhere near as much as you. It must hurt being ripped off soo badly.

Derek 02-04-2014 11:02
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35685404)
So I paid nowhere near as much as you. It must hurt being ripped off soo badly.
Good for you. You can put the money towards your next super dooper, very expensive, ultra powerful PC that will sit in corner while you play a sega master system and moan about how it won't play games as well as other systems. :rolleyes:

peanut 02-04-2014 11:14
Re: The Xbox-one is pile of "bleep" thread.
 
Day one adopters know full well that the prices will drop quite quickly, but that is irrelevant, that is the price you pay and everyone knows it.

It does makes me wonder how many will not make the same - could I say 'mistake' again? As I am glad I didn't press the buy button though was tempted to get one myself.

Some people do buy tech regardlessly and if I had the money I probably would do the same. No different to say I have 8 watches, they all tell the time and I will probably buy another at some point and yes I did make a mistake with one. But that's how it goes.

If I had a really powerful PC, it wouldn't matter as I'd still get a console to allow me to play with mates and I like to just switch on and play with no hassles.

I can say the same about people who go after the latest mobile phone and queue up for it, I call them crazy but it is each to their own.


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