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nodrogd 05-03-2014 10:12
BBC3 to become online only
 
The BBC is considering making BBC3 online only as part of cost cutting measures:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26447089

peanut 05-03-2014 10:14
re: BBC3 to become online only
 
Bad move if you ask me, they should drop BBC4 (& HD for BBC3 &4 if that saves money) first.

tizmeinnit 05-03-2014 10:15
re: BBC3 to become online only
 
They should start advertising and stop relying on the licence fee

toady 05-03-2014 10:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35677965)
They should start advertising and stop relying on the licence fee
Sounds like something a Daily Mail reader would say. :D

I like watching programmes without adverts and a lot of the BBC output would never be created on a commercial channel

denphone 05-03-2014 10:24
re: BBC3 to become online only
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35677961)
The BBC is considering making BBC3 online only as part of cost cutting measures:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26447089
They should get rid of the dreadful BBC Parliament channel where we constantly see politicians behaving like children when they should be behaving like responsible adults but alas sadly that's too much to ask.

tizmeinnit 05-03-2014 10:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toady (Post 35677969)
Sounds like something a Daily Mail reader would say. :D

I like watching programmes without adverts and a lot of the BBC output would never be created on a commercial channel
so do I that is why I watch on tivo and skip.

nomadking 05-03-2014 10:35
re: BBC3 to become online only
 
How much money would be saved? They still have the cost of making the programmes. More peak time internet demand is going to cause problems.

peanut 05-03-2014 10:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35677972)
How much money would be saved? They still have the cost of making the programmes. More peak time internet demand is going to cause problems.
Though less program's would be made if its straight to online only. So can't see that lasting.

tweetiepooh 05-03-2014 10:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35677971)
so do I that is why I watch on tivo and skip.
Still prefer not to have to keep skipping 5 mins of TV every 15 mins or so. Much better to have no ads.

Stuart 05-03-2014 10:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35677965)
They should start advertising and stop relying on the licence fee
Which would cause massive problems for commercial TV, possibly bankrupting several channels (including ITV from what I have heard from people in the industry).

Simple economics.

I mention economics because when you introduce more supply into a market with a fixed size, prices go down. Advertising budgets are finite. They will not suddenly increase because the BBC is accepting advertising.

In short, you would suddenly introduce a far greater supply of advertising space to a market that is already saturated (thanks to hundreds of digital TV and radio channels), and the price (which those companies need to stay relatively high to remain profitable) will crash.

denphone 05-03-2014 10:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35677963)
Bad move if you ask me, they should drop BBC4 (& HD for BBC3 &4 if that saves money) first.
Why as there are some useful programmes on there sometimes that appeal to different groups.

tizmeinnit 05-03-2014 10:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35677976)
Which would cause massive problems for commercial TV, possibly bankrupting several channels (including ITV from what I have heard from people in the industry).

Simple economics.

I mention economics because when you introduce more supply into a market with a fixed size, prices go down. Advertising budgets are finite. They will not suddenly increase because the BBC is accepting advertising.

In short, you would suddenly introduce a far greater supply of advertising space to a market that is already saturated (thanks to hundreds of digital TV and radio channels), and the price (which those companies need to stay relatively high to remain profitable) will crash.

the the companies that seem to keep adding crap channels do not seem to be worrying to much about that economic formula. I would welcome a cull of the crap channels as well as dropping the tv licence.

Stuart 05-03-2014 11:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35677972)
How much money would be saved? They still have the cost of making the programmes. More peak time internet demand is going to cause problems.
One major cost will be carriage. I shouldn't think for a second that Sky, Virgin and the companies that transmit Freeview carry the BBC's channels (beyond 1 and 2 which I believe they are required to carry) for free.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35677980)
the the companies that seem to keep adding crap channels do not seem to be worrying to much about that economic formula. I would welcome a cull of the crap channels as well as dropping the tv licence.
So would I welcome a cull of the crap channels. The problem is that introducing a small channel that serves maybe 5-600,000 viewers will not adversely affect the market. Introduce a channel that with it's more popular broadcasts can count nearly half the country as viewers, and that impact will be significant.

harry_hitch 05-03-2014 11:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35677961)
The BBC is considering making BBC3 online only as part of cost cutting measures:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26447089
Hope so. I, personally, find the channel offers very little entertainment value for me. Would much rather the BBC spent the potential savings else where.

Taf 05-03-2014 11:25
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I wish they would fill BBC1 and 2 with decent programming instead of spreading it over 4 channels, cull the news and parliament channel, and perhaps have a dedicated sports/news channel so they don't keep on screwing with the main channels' scheduling.

denphone 05-03-2014 11:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35677989)
Hope so. I, personally, find the channel offers very little entertainment value for me. Would much rather the BBC spent the potential savings else where.
BBC3 is not for me as l prefer BBC2 and BBC4 but it does get decent figures for some of its programming.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ers-family-guy

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35677991)
I wish they would fill BBC1 and 2 with decent programming instead of spreading it over 4 channels, cull the news and parliament channel, and perhaps have a dedicated sports/news channel so they don't keep on screwing with the main channels' scheduling.
l do agree with your point on its sports content Taf as they should not be putting Rugby and some other sports on BBC1 at prime time in my humble opinion unless its the Olympics as there are many people who have no interest in most sports at all.

Maggy 05-03-2014 11:39
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I watch BBC 3&4.I find the programming that the BBC doesn't show on other channels much more interesting than most of that on BBC1 and BBC 2.If they got rid of them then they will be breaking their remit to offer choice across the board.

The best way to save money is to have less chiefs and employ minions on a lower rate of pay and no golden handshakes if they crap things up. I note with interest that some are jumping ship to other channels.

alwaysabear 05-03-2014 11:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35677970)
They should get rid of the dreadful BBC Parliament channel where we constantly see politicians behaving like children when they should be behaving like responsible adults but alas sadly that's too much to ask.
They are what they are Den a bunch of Public School boys who still think they are in the debating chamber at school.:(

chris9991 05-03-2014 11:54
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Will those who cannot or will not get fast enough broadband, get a discount on their licence fee?

muppetman11 05-03-2014 12:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35678002)
Will those who cannot or will not get fast enough broadband, get a discount on their licence fee?
That's the best point on the thread , many rural areas still have BB speeds that struggle with basic internet tasks let alone streaming TV , many older people don't want or have the know how to be connecting additional devices to watch this content , and who wants to sit at the computer to watch shows.

Chris 05-03-2014 12:06
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If they need to save money, they should stop broadcasting CBBC on weekdays when their entire audience is supposed to be at school.

OLD BOY 05-03-2014 12:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35678003)
That's the best point on the thread , many rural areas still have BB speeds that struggle with basic internet tasks let alone streaming TV , many older people don't want or have the know how to be connecting additional devices to watch this content , and who wants to sit at the computer to watch shows.
Alas, I do believe that this is the way we are going. Linear channels are not the future for TV. I don't see how this is a problem, though, provided that the Broadband/On Demand access issue is resolved.

As far as older people are concerned, I would be amazed if they were perturbed about the loss of BBC 3, given that this is a young person's channel and carries little material that would interest them.

Once everyone has access to on demand I can see all the BBC channels migrating to this method of broadcasting if it is cheaper. The commercial channels will be slower to go across because at present the advertising revenue is too lucrative to lose. However, this will change with time, in my opinion.

vincerooney 05-03-2014 12:18
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No idea why they're going to kill BBC 3 when at least its an original channel. Majority of BBC 4 programming can go to BBC 2 which has always been alternative tv shows. BBC2/4 are too similar in that sense.

BBC also spends money on two childrens tv channels which i see no point in. CBBC is aimed at school children. So start that at 3.30. CBEEBIES for toddlers can run on CBBC channel whilst the kids are in school.

Two channels axed straight away and money saved

Chris 05-03-2014 12:18
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Linear TV will be with us for decades yet. Too many people have too much money invested in transmitter towers, satellites and all the rest. Plus, the sort of Internet speeds required to properely replace a 1080HD picture are still a distant dream for whole swathes of the country.

Don't forget, only about half the households in the UK have any sort of TV subscription. For a huge number of people, the TV is still something you turn on and tune in according to a relatively limited schedule.

OLD BOY 05-03-2014 12:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35678010)
Linear TV will be with us for decades yet. Too many people have too much money invested in transmitter towers, satellites and all the rest. Plus, the sort of Internet speeds required to properely replace a 1080HD picture are still a distant dream for whole swathes of the country.

Don't forget, only about half the households in the UK have any sort of TV subscription. For a huge number of people, the TV is still something you turn on and tune in according to a relatively limited schedule.
Possibly we will still have linear TV in decades to come, although I wouldn't bet on that. However, if BT manage to complete their super-fast broadband project within the next few years, this will change everything.

denphone 05-03-2014 12:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35677999)
I watch BBC 3&4.I find the programming that the BBC doesn't show on other channels much more interesting than most of that on BBC1 and BBC 2.If they got rid of them then they will be breaking their remit to offer choice across the board.

The best way to save money is to have less chiefs and employ minions on a lower rate of pay and no golden handshakes if they crap things up. I note with interest that some are jumping ship to other channels.
Yes l see these two have deserted the ship.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/b...id-not-3203696

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/j...ryfile-3201407

muppetman11 05-03-2014 12:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35678012)
Possibly we will still have linear TV in decades to come, although I wouldn't bet on that. However, if BT manage to complete their super-fast broadband project within the next few years, this will change everything.
You mean the fibre network there now delivering linear TV channels over via multicast. ;)

ocav 05-03-2014 12:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35677984)
One major cost will be carriage. I shouldn't think for a second that Sky, Virgin and the companies that transmit Freeview carry the BBC's channels (beyond 1 and 2 which I believe they are required to carry) for free.

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So would I welcome a cull of the crap channels. The problem is that introducing a small channel that serves maybe 5-600,000 viewers will not adversely affect the market. Introduce a channel that with it's more popular broadcasts can count nearly half the country as viewers, and that impact will be significant.
Wrong there Stuart, all the BBC Channels are must carriage.

However they don't pay any fees anymore, Sky dropped them last week and Virgin have never charged the BBC.

Chris 05-03-2014 13:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35678012)
Possibly we will still have linear TV in decades to come, although I wouldn't bet on that. However, if BT manage to complete their super-fast broadband project within the next few years, this will change everything.
Yes, well, we shall see about that. There's no sign of anything happening around here, not even any plans for the subsidised roll out which would be essential to bring super fast broadband to areas such as where I live.

The thing you need to remember is, we have regulated broadcasting with public service channels that are obliged to provide a universal service. If BT gets to 95% of the population and refuses to go further because it costs them too much, the government won't pay or the technical challenges are too great, then that leaves 5% that by law must still be served. Linear broadcast by terrestrial transmitter or by satellite would have to continue for that reason alone.

RichardCoulter 05-03-2014 14:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35678019)
Wrong there Stuart, all the BBC Channels are must carriage.

However they don't pay any fees anymore, Sky dropped them last week and Virgin have never charged the BBC.
The BBC were also gifted capacity on Freeview.

Gunslinger 05-03-2014 14:37
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What will they use the Freeview & Sky slots for? BBC1+1 maybe?

Chris 05-03-2014 14:39
Re: BBC3 to become online only
 
The news is now confirmed, though still not officially announced.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26447089

denphone 05-03-2014 15:19
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One suspects BBC+1 will take over the slot on the EPG if l have hazard a guess.

chris9991 05-03-2014 15:37
Re: BBC3 to become online only
 
If the BBC don't want to put original programming in the BBC Three slot, then it should be opened up to new bidders before the BBC can use it for BBC1+1. Otherwise, it's just more repeats.

RichardCoulter 05-03-2014 15:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunslinger (Post 35678033)
What will they use the Freeview & Sky slots for? BBC1+1 maybe?
Space is limited on Freeview, so this move will indeed allow the BBC to launch BBC1+1 on the platform.

I'm not sure this will save much transmission wise on satellite, especially now that Sky have agreed to waive the BBC Platform Contribution Charge.

As BBC3 is carried for free by VM, I wonder if there is scope to keep some sort of BBC3 service on cable?

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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35678041)
If the BBC don't want to put original programming in the BBC Three slot, then it should be opened up to new bidders before the BBC can use it for BBC1+1. Otherwise, it's just more repeats.
On Freeview the BBC own the slot, on Sky virtually anyone can open a channel if they wish to do so anyway. The same goes for cable, subject to the agreement of the owners.

Chris 05-03-2014 15:45
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I'm not sure what the plan is here, if the intention is to save money. In broadcast terms, Three is the same channel as Cbeebies. One shuts down at 1858, the other starts at 1900, in the same stream on the same mux. The EPG of your chosen tellybox generally (but not always) maintains the illusion of separateness by preventing you seeing the channels on each other's EPG number.

Therefore they can't relinquish that slot because they still need it, unless they're going to make the blindingly obvious money-saving decision and stop broadcasting programmes for school-age kids during the school day. They could then consolidate Cbeebies and CBBC into the same channel for broadcast from 0600 to 1900 daily (which is more or less what CITV does already) and then switch to BBC Four for the evening.

RichardCoulter 05-03-2014 18:13
Re: BBC3 to become online only
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35678045)
I'm not sure what the plan is here, if the intention is to save money. In broadcast terms, Three is the same channel as Cbeebies. One shuts down at 1858, the other starts at 1900, in the same stream on the same mux. The EPG of your chosen tellybox generally (but not always) maintains the illusion of separateness by preventing you seeing the channels on each other's EPG number.

Therefore they can't relinquish that slot because they still need it, unless they're going to make the blindingly obvious money-saving decision and stop broadcasting programmes for school-age kids during the school day. They could then consolidate Cbeebies and CBBC into the same channel for broadcast from 0600 to 1900 daily (which is more or less what CITV does already) and then switch to BBC Four for the evening.
Yes, it doesn't seem to make much sense from the information we have thus far.

When the BBC talk about making BBC3 online only, we are assuming that they mean i player only. Perhaps it means (on Freeview at least) delivery for BBC3 via IPTV in the same way as the 'Connect' services??

Chad 05-03-2014 18:39
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On the BBC website they have revealed each channels budget:

BBC One: £1,051m
BBC Two: £415m
BBC Three: £85m
BBC Four: £49m
CBBC: £79m
CBeebies: £29m
BBC News Channel: £53m
BBC Parliament: £2m

£79m on CBBC? That's pretty hefty.

Sirius 05-03-2014 18:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35678004)
If they need to save money, they should stop broadcasting CBBC on weekdays when their entire audience is supposed to be at school.
Or even better stop paying there top executives massive pay and severance payments when they decided they need to replace them.

andy_m 05-03-2014 19:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35678078)
On the BBC website they have revealed each channels budget:

BBC One: £1,051m
BBC Two: £415m
BBC Three: £85m
BBC Four: £49m
CBBC: £79m
CBeebies: £29m
BBC News Channel: £53m
BBC Parliament: £2m

£79m on CBBC? That's pretty hefty.
In fairness to the BBC, they have a long tradition of very decent original children's programming. BBC one being more than the rest combined, though? And BBC three costing more than four?

OLD BOY 05-03-2014 19:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35678021)
Yes, well, we shall see about that. There's no sign of anything happening around here, not even any plans for the subsidised roll out which would be essential to bring super fast broadband to areas such as where I live.

The thing you need to remember is, we have regulated broadcasting with public service channels that are obliged to provide a universal service. If BT gets to 95% of the population and refuses to go further because it costs them too much, the government won't pay or the technical challenges are too great, then that leaves 5% that by law must still be served. Linear broadcast by terrestrial transmitter or by satellite would have to continue for that reason alone.
Interesting you should say that. How will the BBC get around this little requirement if they put the BBC3 channel online?

Chad 05-03-2014 19:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35678088)
Interesting you should say that. How will the BBC get around this little requirement if they put the BBC3 channel online?
Maybe they'll argue the channel isn't being broadcast, it's being streamed. Are the rules different for an internet only channel.

OLD BOY 05-03-2014 19:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35678090)
Maybe they'll argue the channel isn't being broadcast, it's being streamed. Are the rules different for an internet only channel.
In which case, there's nothing to stop them from showing all their channels in that way in the medium to long term.

Mr K 05-03-2014 20:35
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It's a shame but I'm glad it's not BBC4 they axed, leave the low brow stuff to Sky. Its preferable to having adverts on the Beeb.

Maybe people will now see the consequence of a licence fee freeze and a Govt. who hates the BBC.

As for BBC 3's output now being iPlayer, that's a bummer for anyone that's got TiVo ......

Stephen 05-03-2014 20:39
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Amended the title slighty as its not 100% yet.

RichardCoulter 05-03-2014 20:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35678093)
In which case, there's nothing to stop them from showing all their channels in that way in the medium to long term.
Indeed. I hope that linear channels aren't replaced by VOD, but I think that long term all or most TV will be delivered via the internet.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35678107)
It's a shame but I'm glad it's not BBC4 they axed, leave the low brow stuff to Sky. Its preferable to having adverts on the Beeb.

Maybe people will now see the consequence of a licence fee freeze and a Govt. who hates the BBC.

As for BBC 3's output now being iPlayer, that's a bummer for anyone that's got TiVo ......
The BBC closing or reducing the prescence of their FTA channels are a dream come true for the private broadcasting sector.

v0id 05-03-2014 21:07
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What they should have done is get rid of the CBBC channel, and brought children's telly back to BBC1 afternoons

Chris 05-03-2014 21:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35678108)
Amended the title slighty as its not 100% yet.
Really no need... ;)

theone2k10 05-03-2014 23:19
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It is 100% the 90 second update on bbc1 at 8pm confirmed it.

Chris 05-03-2014 23:34
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Yep, there is no doubt. The news has leaked, the Beeb clearly wanted to spin it positively but someone on the inside is hacked off and leaked it to the News department, and there are few things BBC journalists love more than sticking the knife into their own management. :D

theone2k10 06-03-2014 01:30
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35678147)
Yep, there is no doubt. The news has leaked, the Beeb clearly wanted to spin it positively but someone on the inside is hacked off and leaked it to the News department, and there are few things BBC journalists love more than sticking the knife into their own management. :D
I honestly think more linar channels will follow suite, i've said time and time again that channels were moving towards streaming online lol. Next will be BBC4 and itv 2,3,4 i think.

steveh 06-03-2014 07:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35678078)
£79m on CBBC? That's pretty hefty.
In TV terms that's really nothing. X-Factor costs around £1.7m per show.

nodrogd 06-03-2014 10:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35678156)
I honestly think more linar channels will follow suite, i've said time and time again that channels were moving towards streaming online lol. Next will be BBC4 and itv 2,3,4 i think.
It certainly cuts out the "middleman" as far as the requirement for having a TV platform for delivery. It also may give OFCOM more excuses to grab further DTT spectrum for Broadband use in future.

Gavin-D 06-03-2014 11:47
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BBC Three will be removed from TV in autumn 2015 and will be replaced by BBC one +1 BBC One drama will receive a £30m boost from the closure BBC Three.

BBC Three will see its cost reduced from £85m to £25m

OLD BOY 06-03-2014 12:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35678107)
It's a shame but I'm glad it's not BBC4 they axed, leave the low brow stuff to Sky. Its preferable to having adverts on the Beeb.

Maybe people will now see the consequence of a licence fee freeze and a Govt. who hates the BBC.

As for BBC 3's output now being iPlayer, that's a bummer for anyone that's got TiVo ......
Why do you say that, Mr K? I have a TIVO and I will be quite happy to view any BBC 3 programmes I want to see on the BBC iPlayer carried by my TIVO.

Given that you have a TIVO, why would you not be happy for BBC 4 also to go onto the i-Player rather than as a linear channel? I would rather it went on line but with the money saved used to reinvigorate the channel, which is very short of funding at present.

muppetman11 06-03-2014 12:42
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Because iPlayer offers an inferior picture over the linear HD channel , many don't have BB connections quick enough to stream iPlayer at HD.

OLD BOY 06-03-2014 12:48
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35678229)
Because iPlayer offers an inferior picture over the linear HD channel , many don't have BB connections quick enough to stream iPlayer at HD.
Do you mean on the TIVO box, MM? Mine has a very good picture with the HD option selected.

paultrademark 06-03-2014 12:57
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It's well documented over on the VM Community forums that lots of people have issues with the BBC iPlayer app on TiVo and continue to do so.

I personally have had issues with it in the past with poor PQ, so just use the app on my Smart TV with no issues at all.

fromthenorth 06-03-2014 12:59
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I've given up trying to use BBC iPlayer through my TiVo box -Really slow and glitchy. Always use the app on my smart Samsung TV instead. Quick and painless

OLD BOY 06-03-2014 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35678232)
It's well documented over on the VM Community forums that lots of people have issues with the BBC iPlayer app on TiVo and continue to do so.

I personally have had issues with it in the past with poor PQ, so just use the app on my Smart TV with no issues at all.
OK, understood. Maybe we should all make representations to the BBC to sort the i-Player out on all their platforms before making this change.

However, I have to say that given that I am not having any problems on my TIVO (at the moment), maybe the problem is Virgin Media's signal or something like that, because clearly the TIVO is capable of working well.

bamav 06-03-2014 13:23
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I don't think there's an option to download from iPlayer on TiVo either? If they did that, it would help as I would miss the record option. Unless they are going to keep everything available to watch on demand. Then you have to question why bother having it streamed at all?

Maybe this is the start...

muppetman11 06-03-2014 13:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35678231)
Do you mean on the TIVO box, MM? Mine has a very good picture with the HD option selected.
I mean on any connected device , I agree the PQ at HD is good enough however as I said it is still inferior to the linear HD channel. Does iPlayer carry 5.1 audio ?

OLD BOY 06-03-2014 13:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35678241)
I don't think there's an option to download from iPlayer on TiVo either? If they did that, it would help as I would miss the record option. Unless they are going to keep everything available to watch on demand. Then you have to question why bother having it streamed at all?

Maybe this is the start...
I understand that 'Catch Up' will be available for a month at a time rather than a week, so this will help.

The only advantage of recording the programmes as far as I can see is that you could keep them until you are ready to watch them (apart from the quality issues that some are having). However, I think I'm right in saying that Sky viewers who can do this have the programme taken off their recordings when it is deleted from the i-Player.

Wad_2002 06-03-2014 16:42
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Very disappointing situ.

I don't watch alot of live tv as per sae. However the tv I do watch is limited with alot of repeats of family guy and american dad.

But hey this is the BBC. Let them do what they want like the freedom they have had over the decades.

Chris 06-03-2014 17:17
Re: BBC3 to become online only
 
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Originally Posted by fromthenorth (Post 35678234)
I've given up trying to use BBC iPlayer through my TiVo box -Really slow and glitchy. Always use the app on my smart Samsung TV instead. Quick and painless
I can also recommend the iPlayer implementation on the Echostar Freesat boxes as well. Really smooth, never stalls even on a very slow internet connection.

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Originally Posted by Wad_2002 (Post 35678279)
Very disappointing situ.

I don't watch alot of live tv as per sae. However the tv I do watch is limited with alot of repeats of family guy and american dad.

But hey this is the BBC. Let them do what they want like the freedom they have had over the decades.
I used to watch Three loads when it first launched, but then I was its target audience back then. :D Those were the days of the Blobs, and I remember them fondly so I won't be changing my avatar...

The BBC have never had a licence to show American Dad or Family Guy online via the iPlayer, neither live nor catch up. If they intend to go on showing those programmes they will probably have to move to BBC2. They're the only thing I would be likely to tune in to Three for these days anyway, those and maybe an occasional Doctor Who repeat.


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