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How sick :( Just cruel if you ask me ...

Two zoo's had offered to take this young healthy beautiful creature ...

A healthy giraffe has been put down and publicly fed to lions despite an online campaign to save him.

Marius was shot dead with a bolt gun at Copenhagen Zoo in Denmark on Sunday to prevent inbreeding.

Visitors, including children, were invited to watch the giraffe being skinned and fed to the animals.

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They just wanted to save money on meat for the lions :mad:

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The reasons given as to why they did this are truly shocking just beggars believe TBH nasty nasty people who made this decision ... really sad :(
Death is part of life but cruelty isn't ... :mis:

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If the last of the wild creatures are only to be found in Zoos, then it is the responsibility of Zoos to keep them healthy. Inbreeding might be their death knell if it is allowed to happen. A serious shame, but a reality.

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They did not need to kill as they were offers of a new home ... :mad: another choice should have been made in this case and the choice should have been life.
They had a choice to be kind and not kill this baby Giraffe ... Shame on them for making this choice ... truly shocking that the person is in charge of animals...

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The Danes aren't the only ones that kill healthy zoo animals
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-26108506

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It say's lions destroyed due to violence and for what I can see no other home was offered to these animals unlike Marius the giraffe ... but unfortunately both these cases were the fault of poor management in my opinion. Once again it's the animals who suffer, yet I am at a loss to who the real animals are in these sad cases...very poor management in both cases ... A Danish promoter living in Los Angeles was quoted as saying he had found a buyer for him. Claus Hjelmbak told the Ekstrabladet newspaper: "One of my close friends, a billionaire, said that he wanted to transfer a few million so we could save the giraffe. "He could easily have lived in his garden in Beverly Hills, but the zoo director was not interested in a sale. :(

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Well that's one Zoo that I'll make a point of avoiding if I should ever go to Copenhagen.

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:clap::clap::clap: You and me both Maggy disgraceful and disgusting isn't it ?

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I thought the idea of zoo's was to preserve these animals personally i think the people working at copenhagen zoo involved in this should consider a job change because they are lousy at the one they have. Absolutely disgusting that this happened and perverse to allow public viewing of the skinning i wouldn't have let my kids within a mile of it.

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l totally agree as l find what they did absolutely abhorrent as surely there are many zoo's in Europe who would love to have a giraffe.:(

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This is absolutely shocking behaviour.

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Watching about this on the news at the moment.

They say they didn't want it to breed because of it's genes, i'm sure it must be possible to sterilise a giraffe as a more acceptable solution.

The zoo say they can't understand what all the fuss is about and invited children to watch and make recordings of the killing and subsequent dismembering on their 'phones :shocked:

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I think that everybody should boycott this zoo. I'm pretty confident that there will be some sort of campaign as animal activists are furious about this atrocity.

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If they were worried about inbreeding, why not put it in a separate enclosure? Failing that, the giraffe was offered a home from lots of different places, why ignore these?

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I would speculate that a sterile giraffe is of little use if the zoo has a breeding programme. It's just a mouth to feed. Turning the mouth into feed was probably quite logical and in all likelihood what would have happened in the wild anyway.

I think some of you need to wind the hysteria in a bit. It is an animal which has led a charmed life compared to any of its wild ancestors and has suffered a fate no worse than any other giraffe that ever lived.

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What you say may be true Chris, but it all just seems so pointless.

The zoo are unrepentant and have issued a statement saying that the campaign to save the giraffe (Marius) has gone too far.

What do parents think about allowing/inviting children to watch and record the killing and dismembering?

Some have argued that it is educational, in a similar way to dissecting frogs etc at school. Others say they would be horrified to let their children see such a thing.

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I thought the issue was that the giraffe was in-bred so under EU rules had to be put down. Likely it could have been safely rehoused but likely some eurocrat would have caused a stink at some point.

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Richard, in all honesty I think that says a lot more about pre-packaged, sanitised, Disneyfied Western civilisation than it does about the zoo. I think it is also worth pointing out that the staff at zoos spend every working day with these animals and get to know them and their personalities. I find it hard to believe they are being callous or insensitive. I think they have been as true to 'the wild' as possible, given the limitations of the zoo environment.

Lions are not cuddly creatures that escape their cages to go on jolly adventures in Madagascar. They are apex predators that catch other large mammals and tear them to shreds for dinner. I see no harm in showing our children that, so long as the zoo clearly communicates what is going on to parents who then have the choice whether to expose their kids to reality or not.

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I grew up in South Africa and had many trips to the Kruger Park so I find all zoos to be a bit sanitised. Zoos give names to animals and run adoption programs. They may try to educate that Simba would like nothing better for dinner than Kiki but that's not what most visitors take away. I'm not suggesting the eurocrat would be a zoo worker who are as pointed out committed to their charges, or at least a keeper. But there are always those who want the rules to be kept to the letter.

And the problem gets exasperated with really wild animals. Yes some need protection but some that are protected become a menace and you can't do anything about them.

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:rant:
I understand what you are saying Chris, and I get it that in the wild he would have lived a different live, but he was in the zoo run by caring/animal lovers he was in the care of human beings "you know humans with common sense and feelings that were meant to love and care for him as it was their job". What did not sit right with me about this killing is was not needed as homes had been found.
What I found also disgusting was then they used the animal as a sideshow to promote their cruelty in my view by killing it in public view then feeding him to the Lions truly shocking especially as children witnessed this cruelty ... and if people are truly buying this gene pull theory then why let him live for 2 years why not put him down at birth by injection but NO they waited till he was 2 to shoot him because if they put him down by injection his meat was classed as useless therefore could not be fed to lions. I am truly and honestly disgusted by this jumped up little man who is on tv defending his decision and stating to the world he does not know what all the fuss is about. I know something I would make less fuss if he was shot then fed to lions, very cruel little man who should look up animal welfare and care .... he really should lose his job :mad:

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I don't think I'm being hysterical at all Chris.I've every right to boycott this zoo..IF I ever go to Denmark.I understood all their points of view but I think that they were wrong. Also who the hell allowed the inbreeding anyway?Maybe they need a job change.

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:clap::nworthy::clap: Once again a brilliant comeback from Maggy J ... :D

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The human species has a lot to answer for.. Stuff the EU Rules. Shame on you million and billionaires who could buy land and set up their own wildlife preservation parks.

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I really don't see the problem with giraffe meat being fed to lions. It's what lions eat in the wild, amongst other things. If the giraffe had to die, then a bolt to the head followed by a meal for Simba was a perfectly good way to do it. Lethal injection would have been a waste of a couple of tonnes of quality meat.

The problem you have here is that you think of the giraffe as a 'he'. The giraffe was a male 'it', an animal, not a human. Killing it before it died of old age is not an act of cruelty. Killing it with a bolt to the head is not a cruel method of killing an animal either, it is how much of the red meat on your dinner table meets its end.

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I don't think it was cruel, it's not like he was alive when chucked to the lions, unnecessary maybe but not cruel.

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Or just healthy animals full stop

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-healthy.html

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A better fate, at least he was dead when eaten

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The reasons seem logical enough to me

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/wo...service=mobile

What is unnecessary imo is the animal rights terrorists making death threats

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...marius-giraffe

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What is unnecessary imo is the animal rights terrorists making death threats
Well the people making these threats are as brain dead as the person who made the decision on killing a healthy beautiful creature ... imo :)

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I know I am for all rights that belong to this world and that is live and let live so on this subject I have decided to be off this topic ... no matter what people think I know deep in my heart that this was wrong to kill a defenceless creature, your views are your own and only you can live with that..I know I can...live and let live... :angel:

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The children were 3, 4 and 5 according to some news reports. I agree that children should be taught that the world is a cruel place more often than not (I learnt that from a VERY early age), but these ages seem too young to me to draw them into the harsh world of reality so soon.

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I don't regard animals as objects. They are living things with a soul, feelings, memories etc.

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Being cruel is not exclusive to living things.

How do you feel about killing humans that aren't much use to society?

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Just because you keep typing in bold doesn't mean you're the arbiter of what's of or on topic, I do agree though the people making the threats are brain dead. I'm a little shocked they.managed to stop themselves from eating the crayons long enough to finish the threats.

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See the thing with cadavers and I realise I'm generalising, is that on the whole they ain't to fussed about people being cruel to them, in fact they're just glad of the attention. You'll be telling us next zombies have feelings and what would you prefer, his body rotting or being burnt, at least he wasn't wasted.

How do I feel, well it depends what they've done really, I'm not going to lose any sleep if Mr child rapist murderer gets fed to some lions, my only concern would be that the lions might get belly ache from eating such rubbish.

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I prefer to interact with people who can communicate without excessive sarcasm and extremities of example.

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I'm going to stick my neck out (sorry couldn't resist) and say I don't think anyone here is in favour of human eugenics through extermination but the giraffe was an animal. Unless you are a plastic sandal wearing ultra vegan then a number of animals die each day to clothe, feed and generally improve your life.

Yes it's sad it happened but where is the outrage for the cow that was killed to feed the lions previously? At least the zoo didn't just usher Marius into the lions enclosure and let nature take its course fully.

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Personally, I have found animals to be more affable than many humans.

The world would be a better place if humans were to become extinct. There was an interesting programme on last year about how nature would reclaim the Earth should this happen.

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A substantial money offer for the animal was made, surely this would have kept the Lions food supply going for a long time.

Well done RichardCoulter. I agree with your sentiments.

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[QUOTE=richard s;35671606]A substantial money offer for the animal was made, surely this would have kept the Lions food supply going for a long time.

I think nothing would have changed this pompous little man's decision as he came across full of an exaggerated sense of one's own value or importance.

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because so many places offered a new home for this animal the only explanation for this is they wanted to save money on meat for other animals in the zoo.

These people are not animal lovers and seem to care more about money then the animals. Zoo should be shut down and animals moved to places where people actually care for the animals.

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Or other more plausible explanations here

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:clap::clap::clap: could not agree with you more ...

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Still don't think it is right tbh with you, the poor thing could have been re homed, that fate should have been a last option ... note to TheDaddy I never wrote this in bold just for you ... ;) LOL

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Not according to them he couldn't be re homed, I'm sure they didn't take the decision lightly, they have after all spent months caring and looking after him and devoted their careers to animal welfare and conservation, I'm happy to give the zoo the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

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The guardian http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sk-denmark-zoo
If you are a giraffe and your name is Marius, now might be a good time to leave Denmark. Days after the euthanasia of a healthy young giraffe at Copenhagen zoo sparked controversy around the world, a second Danish zoo has announced that it is considering a similar fate for another giraffe – also named Marius. Jyllands Park zoo, in western Denmark, currently has two male giraffes, but has been approved to participate in the European breeding programme. If zookeepers manage to acquire a female giraffe, seven-year-old Marius will have to make way. Like his namesake in Copenhagen, the giraffe is considered unsuitable for breeding, and the zoo said there was a high risk that Marius would have to be put down as it would be difficult to find him a new home.
This is the same excuse as the zoo in Copenhagen first used and yet a home was found and other offer's were also made to save his life but the pleas to save him were simply ignored ... :wtf: is wrong with these people apart from being sick in the head ... there is something seriously wrong with these people ... :nutter:

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Hmm

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26734377

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They sound more like a abattoir than a zoo.

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This zoo's management really does beggar believe ... I hope the management of this zoo comes to an end soon for the sake of the poor animals in their care. Truly shocking practice they seem to have. :mad:

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For balance did they feed the lions to the remaining giraffes?

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:Yikes:

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:D

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I hope people boycott this place it doesn't sound much of a zoo to me granted I only have twycross for reference but agree they seem to have only one solution to a problem.

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Very sad that this seems to be their solution ... Death of an unwanted animal in their care makes me wonder how they can call themselves caring as they really seem to believe their is no other way ... IMO

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What is it with Danish zoos

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eed-event.html

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Some useful thoughts on that here

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ildren-denmark

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Do schools still dissect rats?

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Still ?

When did they ever do that ?

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My secondary school certainly did, but that was the early 90s.

Apparently not so much now http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ety-fears.html

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We did it in the mid 70's in secondary school.

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In the early 60s my school didn't dissect rats but we did dissect mice, frogs, fish and earthworms.

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I seem to remember dismantling, dissection would be too elegant a term, a frog in biology lessons in the late sixties.:D

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I remember enjoying the set-up that had to be done before we were allowed to make the first cut. Pinning down the subject onto the dissection board always appealed to my ghoulish nature with my forte being drawing in great detail the end results.

Looking back I was a weird child. :D

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What with the Russian Police shooting a brown bear which got into a super market.

Now we have a German pig who shot a 40 year old Elephant for a game trophy. He paid $40,000 for the disgusting act.