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It's not going the way Dave and his mates were hoping it would, is it? LOL

Totally backfired on the producers.

Katie really let the side down. she tried the "Hard Working People" brainwash chant. but it didn't work.

I loved that thing about Camerons family being slave drivers or something not being able to be edited out.

White Dee kept her cool. she resisted from punching Katie's teeth in :)

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Just watched it. Just what were they thinking. Katie should be banned from any type of media. Trash tv at its best. It was more like Jeremy Kyle and Jerry Springer rolled into one.

Shameful.

At least they got one thing right, they didn't call the program a debate.

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It was a shambles. Wright was well out of his depth.

Katie is all an obvious act. and is making a complete prat of herself pretending to have these strong views about things, when really she probably doesn't give a monkeys. and will just go home and drink herself silly as usual.

was Edwina Currie breaking her dentures in?

To me it was an hour for the benefit claimants to put their point across. which was not the intention of the show.
without Katie being there. there was no debate at all.

all that hype leading up to it, and look how it went.

Benefit Claimants 1
Conservative Party 0

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I missed it... :(

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You can probably watch it on demand 5 or youtube.

Katie Hopkins played the part of the pantomime villain.
I swear she's related to Dave.

as others have said. how can you take anything seriously with her on it representing the Conservative Party?

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what do you expect from pigs but a grunt ?

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'rent-a-gob' Katie Hopkins should be banned from TV ...

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We'll have to see if the Channel4 Benefits debate is any better.
Benefits Britain: The Debate 104 - Channel 4 HD Mon Feb 10, 2014 (10:00 PM)

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Well it could not be any worse ...

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Strange - I am sure she stood as an Independent in the Euro Elections.

But don't let facts spoil your diatribes....

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I thought she just represented herself. Making herself known (as controversial as possible) just for the pay packet and attention.

I take it you're a fan of hers Hugh?

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Don't let her bother you Hugh. she's just trying to wind you up.
she's just one of lifes biggest failures, and is very bitter about it.

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She's getting that carried away now with attacking other 'celebs' as well as the others. she can't keep up with which one of them is going to punch her head in first LOL

You know Hugh. always sits on that fence :)

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I have no idea who Katie Hopkins is, but it sounds like I havent missed much.

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Why would you take that?

I think she is an offensive self-publicist, whose main aim in life is to raise her profile by being provocative.

She reminds me of Gary in a lot of ways.... ;)

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Sorry it just looked as if you were defending her thats all. And only someone who is a fan would do something like that. :)

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No, I was rebutting one of Gary's incorrect assertions.

Sorry, I should have been more specific - where G stated "with her representing the Conservative Party"

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Come on H, everyone can see she's a true Conservative.
you've only got to listen to her.

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Bonus Street.

Times are already good on Bonus Street and now they're getting better. The residents who have more money that they could ever possibly know what to do with, are having to learn to get by... on even more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZN-MYaQavo

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Gary wasn't incorrect in his assertion

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...artbroken.html

I doubt she'll ever fulfil that ambition now, as unpalatable as her self publicising views are at least she has them, politicians don't, their bland inoffensive little wallflowers

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Finally got to watch it...

20 million people on benefits. Britain's total benefit bill is £166-billion, £1.2-billion of that a year is down to fraud, less than 1% of the total benefits bill.

Payments to pensioners make up more than half the social security spend.

£16 billion of benefits left unclaimed.

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Found this to be a good read.

Inciting hatred against the poor and hungry – a new British bigotry



Britain's Public Enemy #1

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I dispute this 1% figure, what's the criteria for benefit fraud?

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A teenage girl getting pregnant to get a council house/flat isn't classed as fraud but perhaps it should be.
proving it would be the tricky part.

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The 1% is the governments own figure, maybe it's much more, or much less?

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Note the absolute black and white certainties of the bigot – all people on benefits are spongers in the same way that a bigot labels all young black men as muggers or all Muslims as terrorists. Same **** different target, but for some reason its ok right now to throw hatred at poor people.

We are hypocrites, and Bigots.
we are strange bunch of humans. we don't know our arse from our elbow sometimes.

whilst we're defending what's fashionable at the time to defend. we're quite happy to hate and attack another section of society.

some of us need to be led. we're all lost sheep.

all this is going to turn around soon.
it's gone past the stage of saving money. with Daves help it has turned into pure hatred.
Society is officially at War with each other. and Dave was the one who authorised it under his watch.

Anyway. back to looking after ginger people.
(unless that ginger person is on benefits)

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I tried to watch it but had to switch off. Tht Katie Hopkins is a nasty piece of work and just kept wanting to punch her in the face.

Not a clue on reality at all.

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That is a harsh spin on it. But I have to agree to some truth in it.

I don't actually know where all the anger surrounding claimants is now aimed at. It seems to have become a blur. I think it's a case of 'I'm alright Jack, I pay taxes and I don't want it to go on people who sponge and have a cushy life and end up having more than me'. But ended up somehow tarring everyone on benefits with the same brush.

I could argue that anyone claiming child benefit is hypocritical if they are against people who claim other benefits. If they have a 'right' to them, who should argue?

I don't think it's going to get any better, I have a horrible feeling it's just going to get a whole lot worse than it is now.

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I know someone who works.
they get:
Tax Credit Benefit
Child Benefit
and Housing Benefit of around £550 pm

I know someone that doesn't work, and they get a total of around £70 benefit.

It probably is.
it's probably going to get a lot worse in the way of retaliation. and it's effect on the other half of society.

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And I bet they moan at the people who ain't in work, calling them spongers and dossers etc.

Because it's all now a mess (that program didn't help any cause), the ignorance surround benefits is astounding.

I can not work (just by saying that I'm sure some would disagree and say that I could do something as I'm at a PC typing so therefore could be put to some use and get off benefits). But anyway, I can not work, my wife works as carers allowance and other benefits just won't be enough to live on, and that the fear of losing certain benefits could mean we can lose everything in the process.

So people think because I don't work that my wife and I are claiming everything under the sun. Well all I claim for is ESA (support group) and DLA and that's it. We pay full rent, C Tax, dental, everything basically. We do not qualify for anything else because my wife works and gets just above minimum wage.

Or my brother who has worked all his life, he's been made redundant, his wife works, on just above min wage, he was put on JSA, even after going for everything he's not been able to gain employment so now after 6 months he get NOTHING. So he has a mortgage etc with just one low wage coming in. So where's the help there? It's all wrong.

So those that oppose welfare are taking their anger out on the wrong people in my opinion. But causing more damage in the process.

I can assure you that my benefits help, they give us a chance to live. But even if I won the lottery, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.

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Employers should pay a decent living wage, then employees wouldn't have to claim benefits to top up their wage. Most people who work are living hand to mouth, working all the hours they can just to survive. I reckon the majority of people who work and who want to work, only want to be treated and paid well enough to be able to have the luxury of some savings in the bank, a holiday once a year, maybe a car and a chance to own their own home, and start a family etc... But the way things are now, there's little chance of that.

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Yeh, I forgot to put that in.

if all them benefits were took off that person. it would make a big impact on their life.

this scenario where people are working and receiving these benefits whilst they're working. are happening all over the country.
and a lot of them have the cheek to complain about the person taking only £70 in benefits is a sponger and all the rest.

An MP is quite happy to deflect attention away from themselves taking hundreds and thousands of pounds worth of benefits.
A worker is just as happy to do the same.
Whilst the rich tax dodgers are quite happy to just carry on with immunity.

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What is it that is that makes people so angry towards claimants? To the point where they oppose giving handouts in general? It can't be just the frauds only can it.

I've watched one episode of that Benefit Street, and I don't think it's representative of the majority obviously. But what if (taking that street) someone gets a job, they'll only likely be getting min wage, so they would end up getting less than what they are on benefits. So these people make a decision based on what is best for them, who wouldn't make the same choice if it means going to work but end up losing more. It's a catch 22 situation. How can you get out of the situation like that? If you're already in poverty why choose to go even lower?

Just call them **** and demand change whatever that is.

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I actually think a lot of people don't really know themselves why they're so angry towards them.
I always thought it was all about the money at first. but it can't be really.

some just want them to have nothing at all. so in that respect it's got to be what it looks like it's turning into. which is pure hatred.

and then you point to the source of it, and you get Dave.

http://s27.postimg.org/7lytbs12n/dave.jpg

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I have to agree with that. Along with maybe if they keep hitting these people then they'll leave the more 'comfortable' people alone. As those that are not affected by the cuts do seem to have the loudest voice.

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I've always said it's been a smokescreen.
The "Hard Working People" is the divide and conquer magic chant.
he keeps telling us that it's what The British People want. we have to choose which side we belong to.

we choose the side that we feel are protected. Dave has assured us that if we join the right side we'll be rewarded when we go to heaven.

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I have said all along its the Tories way of shifting the focus from government to the poor sick and unemployed. It gives the workforce a target for how they feel with the cuts etc which is not them

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Looks like it's now next monday, CH4 are milking Benefits Street with an update episode first.