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Mike 02-12-2013 07:36

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Hi all

Do you think this will happen ???

http://www.amazon.com/b?ref_=tsm_1_t...ode=8037720011

Judging by the press Amazon seem to think yes :)

Kabaal 02-12-2013 07:46

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I'd have thought the cost would be enormous for this considering the sheer volume of sales they do. Cyber Monday (today) last year alone they sold 27 million items, 306 orders per second... that's a lot of drones.

Mike 02-12-2013 09:09

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Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35651430)
I'd have thought the cost would be enormous for this considering the sheer volume of sales they do. Cyber Monday (today) last year alone they sold 27 million items, 306 orders per second... that's a lot of drones.

What a great new sport 'bagging' a drome.........I'am buying a big gun !

Gary L 02-12-2013 10:56

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LOL LOL LOL
This will not happen.

for starters you'll have loads of them flying around. the sky will be full of them buzzing around. and you'll have people chasing them to go and nick the parcels.
and stop it from taking off again back to base.

Mick Fisher 02-12-2013 16:01

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If Yodel use them your parcel will be dropped in your garden from 50,000 ft :D

Paul 02-12-2013 16:16

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Has April 1st come early .......

MadGamer 02-12-2013 21:17

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I'd love to see this happen in the UK. :)

Hom3r 02-12-2013 22:03

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There is a joke here somewhere, but not now.

Halcyon 03-12-2013 23:01

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It would be cool but you'd have people jamming the devices so they could run off with the parcels.
Oh and then you'd have the issue of them getting in the way of aircraft.

And in this world where everyone sues eachother just wait for someone to get hit by one and file a case against them.

Horizon 03-12-2013 23:36

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 35651429)
Hi all

Do you think this will happen ???

Yes, clearly it works and Amazon say it will happen in the US in five years time.

Sometimes you see things which just blow the mind and like the stuff that used to be on Tomorrow's World, the future has arrived. But I feel sorry for those delivery jobs that will go though.

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Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35651430)
I'd have thought the cost would be enormous for this considering the sheer volume of sales they do. Cyber Monday (today) last year alone they sold 27 million items, 306 orders per second... that's a lot of drones.

No, this will be a "special delivery" type service. Amazon say within 30 minutes, so the cost will be huge. But for those that have the money and want the goods, it will become a reality and drive down costs for the rest of us.

qasdfdsaq 03-12-2013 23:52

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No, this will be a "special delivery" type service. Amazon say within 30 minutes, so the cost will be huge. But for those that have the money and want the goods, it will become a reality and drive down costs for the rest of us.

How exactly is cost going to be huge?

It'll be most likely one of the cheapest options available from Amazon's perspective.

The drones cost a few hundred bucks each, far less than even annual vehicle tax on a delivery van, let alone a van itself, and cost a few pence in electricity to make a delivery. Only drawback is it'll only be available within a limited radius around their depots and won't be available in adverse weather.

Jimmy-J 04-12-2013 01:01

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The only way I can see how this will work is for the parcel to be delivered to one of many drop-off zones spread about within an areas postcode.

I saw this the other day and couldn't resist getting a quick photo... I think it was meant to be delivered to the guy hanging out of his window on the 10th floor. :D

adzii_nufc 04-12-2013 10:13

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Forget batteries, just power them via Nuclear means. Our government should have no problems with that given their plan in regards to Nuclear powered UAV's above Britain.

qasdfdsaq 04-12-2013 19:46

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Problem is nuclear batteries are not powerful enough on those scales. UAVs need a lot less power because they get most of their lift aerodynamically and don't need to land very often, if at all.

Some UAVs can't even take off under their own power.

Uncle Peter 10-12-2013 00:47

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Amazon's drones attack Santa Claus

ThunderPants73 17-12-2013 19:08

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35651610)
Has April 1st come early .......


Thats what I thought....I'd love to see one deliver a telly.

Stuart 17-12-2013 19:49

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35652080)
How exactly is cost going to be huge?

It'll be most likely one of the cheapest options available from Amazon's perspective.

The drones cost a few hundred bucks each, far less than even annual vehicle tax on a delivery van, let alone a van itself, and cost a few pence in electricity to make a delivery. Only drawback is it'll only be available within a limited radius around their depots and won't be available in adverse weather.

Have you factored in that the van can take many parcels at once, including those larger than the copter can handle? The purchase and running costs of the average van are quite low if you factor in the fact that the purchase cost is divided by the number of parcels the van will take in it's lifetime (which will be in the tens of thousands). Maintenance and tax can be divided by the amount of parcels taken in a year (which can still be thousands), as can the salary of the driver. The cost of fuel can be divided by the amount of parcels the van can carry on one tank. It also does not need to return to the depot after every journey, which will reduce fuel consumption and in the long term, maintenance costs.

Personally, I think Amazon did it for one reason, and one reason only. Publicity. Think about it. They've got the media all over the US and UK talking about it, and all they had to shell out is a few bucks for a copter and a few cents for an Amazon PrimeAir sticker..

qasdfdsaq 18-12-2013 01:33

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Yes but a van also sits around unused much of the time, as it require a manual driver on a salary to operate, further there's costs of fuel, insurance, and all that too, while a drone could also deliver thousands of packages in a year.

Furthermore, said van can do far fewer 30-minute deliveries than it can doing a standard multi-package run that takes several hours.

There's far too many variables to really make a sensible comparison, but the only other company doing 30-minute deliveries right now are Craplin, and they charge around the price of a taxi, because well, they basically use taxis. And even then, those costs are barely more than standard delivery charges if you live close by.

Stuart 18-12-2013 10:04

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Yes but a van also sits around unused much of the time, as it require a manual driver on a salary to operate, further there's costs of fuel, insurance, and all that too, while a drone could also deliver thousands of packages in a year.

I did factor that in, but you also need to factor in that any reasonably efficient courier operation will have decent logistics and route management systems in place. These are designed to keep the amount of time each vehicle is off road to a minimum, and also to ensure that the route taken by each vehicle is the shortest it can be to encompass all the delivery points.

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Furthermore, said van can do far fewer 30-minute deliveries than it can doing a standard multi-package run that takes several hours.

There's far too many variables to really make a sensible comparison, but the only other company doing 30-minute deliveries right now are Craplin, and they charge around the price of a taxi, because well, they basically use taxis. And even then, those costs are barely more than standard delivery charges if you live close by.
Actually the point you have made there brings to mind another problem Amazon would have if they are planning to offer this service country wide. They would need at least one depot within 30 minutes flight time of every building they are planning to deliver to. They don't, and a major reason that they can offer lower prices than shops is that they don't have a lot of buildings to rent (or buy), maintain and staff. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon....nd_warehousing), Amazon have seven operational warehouses in the UK, with 3 more planned. I suspect those warehouses cost a lot less to maintain and run than the several hundred smaller warehouses they would need to maintain a 30 minute delivery time to most of the country. They possibly cost less to run than the couple of dozen or so that would be needed to cover the major towns and cities.

The extra warehousing would be an extra cost to Amazon because they don't have those facilities in place. Maplin do not have this extra cost simply because they only offer the service where they have shops nearby, so are paying the cost anyway.

qasdfdsaq 19-12-2013 00:08

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Umm I'm pretty sure the ad currently refers to their US operations only, nothing to do with the UK at all.

Stuart 03-01-2014 15:30

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Umm I'm pretty sure the ad currently refers to their US operations only, nothing to do with the UK at all.

Which only makes the logistical problems worse. They would need many more warehouses to cover the US than they would the UK.

qasdfdsaq 04-01-2014 04:21

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They also already have more.

It was only ever intended to be offered within a 10 mile radius.


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