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MrB 12-11-2013 18:09

6.7% Price Increase From February!
 
And in other news, Virgin Media take the lead of the utilities and announce above inflation price rises again, from February ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24911042

denphone 12-11-2013 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrB (Post 35644338)
And in other news, Virgin Media take the lead of the utilities and announce above inflation price rises again, from February ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24911042

Yes prices are going up but so are Sky's and BT's and l am afraid its part and parcel of every year and my advice is to look for the best deal.

howardmicks 12-11-2013 18:29

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Yes I will be reviewing my options come September when my free sky deal runs out,currently considering sky for TV and vm for broadband and phone unless both give me good deals

AFM 12-11-2013 20:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrB (Post 35644338)
And in other news, Virgin Media take the lead of the utilities and announce above inflation price rises again, from February ...

Which will provide customers an opportunity to cancel without penalty, and either go elsewhere or negotiate a cheaper price with Virgin Media.

Or am I the only one that does this?

howardmicks 12-11-2013 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AFM (Post 35644364)
Which will provide customers an opportunity to cancel without penalty, and either go elsewhere or negotiate a cheaper price with Virgin Media.

Or am I the only one that does this?

Nope I do and it better be a good one with that price rise ;)

linwelin 12-11-2013 21:34

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I have just negotiated a new contract with VM XLTV 120MB Internet M Phone, for 47 a month for 6 months then an additional 11 quid after that if i want to keep it, but i take it that will go up from February now ? will i be able to cancel or re-negotiate ?

qasdfdsaq 12-11-2013 23:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35644341)
Yes prices are going up but so are Sky's and BT's and l am afraid its part and parcel of every year and my advice is to look for the best deal.

No it isn't.

bubblegun 12-11-2013 23:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35644428)
No it isn't.

No it isn't, what?

Prices go up every year - it's called Capitalism. We live in a capitalist society so the price needs to go up every year otherwise the system doesn't work.

Sky have (almost) always said their price will go up every year.

More recently BT and Virgin are doing the same thing. Unfortunately customers need to accept this otherwise they can move to bottom-feeders like talktalk or primus.

Gary L 13-11-2013 09:18

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Quote:

The company said the price rise would allow it to remain competitive and provide value for its customers
Oh, shut up.

Exorcist74 13-11-2013 10:28

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The only people who are getting value are the stock holders... I have the same system I had, since Virgin/Ntl started.. the same .. even the speed update promise 2 years ago is a total bucket of crap.. STILL WAITING :(

yorkshireborn 13-11-2013 11:20

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come February I think ill keep the tinternet but drop it to the lowest speed dump the phone and tv go with freesat.

Arthurgray50@blu 13-11-2013 11:29

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It does not make sense. Don't they know that everyone is cash strapped and are fed up with price increases.

My BB is totally crap from VM and all these promises about VM increasing the BB is beyond belief. It would be ok if they could justify the increase, but typically they wont. Only to say 'we will give customers what they want' bull****.

Mr Banana 13-11-2013 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644598)
It does not make sense. Don't they know that everyone is cash strapped and are fed up with price increases.

My BB is totally crap from VM and all these promises about VM increasing the BB is beyond belief. It would be ok if they could justify the increase, but typically they wont. Only to say 'we will give customers what they want' bull****.

Disconnect then.

Ryan92 13-11-2013 11:55

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So i'm assuming letters will be sent next month given the rise will be reflective in January's bill?

BenMcr 13-11-2013 12:09

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Letters have started to go out from this week

Qtx 13-11-2013 13:08

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Quite a lot more than inflation at 2.7%.

Crap for customers, good for shareholders. Reminds me of the energy business ;)

Uncle Peter 13-11-2013 13:58

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I received my letter today.

I hope that 6.7% increase goes towards fixing the area faults that stuff my connection up on a regular basis... or it'll be off to FTTC next Spring.

Ryan92 13-11-2013 14:01

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I spoke to the online chat team to see what they could do for me in terms of reducing my package ; even with the price rise I'd begin to struggle so don't want to go there.

I pay £97 for ;

120meg Broadband
4 TiVo subscriptions
Talk Weekends
Caller Display

They offered

Deal 1

60 meg Broadband
L TV with 4 TiVo boxes
Talk Weekends
Caller Display

£88.49

Deal 2

60 meg Broadband
M+ TV with 4 TiVo boxes
Talk Weekends
Caller Display

£80.20

What do you think?

FTTC is available here next month so really don't want to need to go elsewhere :/

Gary L 13-11-2013 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan92 (Post 35644690)
What do you think?

You obviously watch a lot of TV. you don't need a fast connection unless you know how to use it.
I've never seen the fascination in loads of TV channels. Freeview is good enough for a lot of people.

eljay 13-11-2013 15:23

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AT one time it seemed the "Norm" to get good deals from retentions on your existing package. The "Norm" now appears to be just achieving reductions by reducing the level of service. I strongly expect that the addition of new channels and stuff like BT Sport plus the cost of the "double" speed free provision has severley increased VM's costs and hence willingness to accept reductions in revenue from the existing packages.

I had the VIP50 (now VIP100) collection and when I went to them was only offered £7 / month reduction against downgrading to 60 meg. The list price difference was £7-50 so no reduction at all in essence.

Suffice to say I ended up going to sky for a deal including Sky TV plus extra, sky movies and sport, multiscreen and Sky phone with anytime calls for £67.90/month for a year including line rental. So even retaining 120 meg broadband (got sky basic included but insufficient for my needs) total cost was £105.40 compared to £116.20 for VM only.

This is the price we are paying for the upgrading of the TV content & BB improvements

denphone 13-11-2013 15:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35644652)
Quite a lot more than inflation at 2.7%.

Crap for customers, good for shareholders. Reminds me of the energy business ;)

l am afraid price rises are a fact of life and as l always say if people are unhappy then vote with your feet but remember the grass is usually not that greener on the other side of the fence.:)

MUD_Wizard 13-11-2013 15:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan92 (Post 35644690)
I pay £97 for ;

120meg Broadband
4 TiVo subscriptions
Talk Weekends
Caller Display

120Mb broadband
Netflix USA £5
Sipgate FREE+calls

£42.50

Who needs TV channels? Watch programmes when you want. I haven't watched channels or adverts in years.

howardmicks 13-11-2013 16:51

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Yer come February I'm gonna cancel TV and just keep broadband and home phone,price rise way to much,we're paying the cost of bt sports :(
Got sky TV free till September then I will revue my options.gonna miss me TiVo :( thou

---------- Post added at 17:51 ---------- Previous post was at 17:45 ----------

When we receive letters can we cancel some services or do we have to wait till February

BenMcr 13-11-2013 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35644775)
When we receive letters can we cancel some services or do we have to wait till February

You have to cancel now, as you get 30 days from the notification

want to know 13-11-2013 19:01

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hi i have virgin tv xl / 20meg bb / and medium phone for £47.00 a month . think may be i will drop the tv go with free sat just keep the bb / phone unless they come up with an offer .

howardmicks 13-11-2013 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35644859)
You have to cancel now, as you get 30 days from the notification

Thanks bud ,thinking of cancelling TV.but keeping broadband and phone

Maggy 13-11-2013 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35644695)
You obviously watch a lot of TV. you don't need a fast connection unless you know how to use it.
I've never seen the fascination in loads of TV channels. Freeview is good enough for a lot of people.

Actually free view is crap. I'm currently watching it and the choice is lousy. Not a patch on the VM xl TV package.

Gary L 13-11-2013 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35644916)
Actually free view is crap. I'm currently watching it and the choice is lousy. Not a patch on the VM xl TV package.

You sound like you're selling it when you mention XL and not M :)

Everybody knows SKY TV beats all.

TV is all repeat, repeat, repeat anyway.

Dave42 13-11-2013 22:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35644775)
Yer come February I'm gonna cancel TV and just keep broadband and home phone,price rise way to much,we're paying the cost of bt sports :(
Got sky TV free till September then I will revue my options.gonna miss me TiVo :( thou

---------- Post added at 17:51 ---------- Previous post was at 17:45 ----------

When we receive letters can we cancel some services or do we have to wait till February

you got 30 days from getting letter Howard to cancel

---------- Post added at 23:38 ---------- Previous post was at 23:36 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35644916)
Actually free view is crap. I'm currently watching it and the choice is lousy. Not a patch on the VM xl TV package.

totally agree it is but prices are getting ridiculous now and will never come down more will be using freeview I guess

Jimmy-J 13-11-2013 23:07

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I don't use the phone or watch the V-Box/HD, I'll be phoning them soon to cancel, I'll just keep the BB.

I predict there'll be a large increase in the sale of other, certain types of sat-box then.

richard s 14-11-2013 13:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35644588)
come February I think ill keep the tinternet but drop it to the lowest speed dump the phone and tv go with freesat.


DITTO.... Me thinks the same!

howardmicks 14-11-2013 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35645166)
DITTO.... Me thinks the same!

Need to be cancelling when get letter not feb,one of my mates at work as cancelled is tv services today and as just got a half price deal for 12 months off sky just keeping broadband and phone with vm and is saving £40 per month

mcilwraith 15-11-2013 13:14

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Is the 6.7% increase on the WHOLE bill, or just on the broadband?

I am very happy with TV (M), Phone (L) and BB (30Mb) for £27/month. And my BB will be upgraded to 50Mb next year. Amazing!

Also 6.7% of £27 is only £1.80. :)

jfman 15-11-2013 22:58

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It'll be interesting to see what the rises are but with BT increasing line rental (obviously nothing to do with acquiring football rights ;)) naturally Sky (who are in for te same sports rights) and the rest of the market will follow upwards.

We don't have genuine competition we have ogliopoly.

The advantage for Virgin as this revenue could be used to try and keep BTS in XL or subsidise it to some degree. Regardless of how BTs pricing strategy goes, it's better for them to have subscribers via VM (less likely to have Sky Sports and/or to reduce Sky DTH market share in VM areas) leaving BT a clean run at Sky outside the VM network driven by their own profits and fixed VM revenues.

MUD_Wizard 15-11-2013 23:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35644916)
Actually free view is crap. I'm currently watching it and the choice is lousy. Not a patch on the VM xl TV package.

I had a freeview box for a while when it started but it was sitting gathering dust so I gave it to a mate ages ago. I just download or stream TV anyway, so who needs a Tivo. I really can't understand why I ever watched fixed channels, except of course at the time I had no other choice. Once you have a choice of watching whatever you want whenever you want without waiting it's obvious.

paultrademark 16-11-2013 03:55

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Mine is going up £5.75 and my package bundle cost is £64.49 so thats more than 6.7%.

deehand 16-11-2013 14:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35645711)
Mine is going up £5.75 and my package bundle cost is £64.49 so thats more than 6.7%.

Today I received a letter showing the same increase (i.e. £5.75). As my monthly package for internet, TV and phone totals £65.35/month this price increase calculates out at 8.8% over all three services.

PsyCrow 16-11-2013 18:19

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My letter also said £5.75 for my £68.99 bill (8.3%). I was on VIP in the past but the constant price increases meant I downgraded, I think I might need to look at removing stuff again.

TAZMANUK 16-11-2013 19:18

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Ill be cancelling the 08 phone add on at 2 quid and may downgrade my 120 bb to 60 save on that but get same speed when boost kicks in :)

want to know 17-11-2013 10:19

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I totally agree . the market for pay tv will crash big time if the price keeps going up and up . people will not keep paying for more repeats . I know free sat / free view don't have lots of channels but it will do for me anyway .

howardmicks 17-11-2013 10:37

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Still awaiting letter,soon as it does cancelling tv services just keep broadband and phone line.sky for TV services for me

freakgirl 17-11-2013 11:36

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Probably end up cancelling phone line, rarely use it anyway

RobboEdin 17-11-2013 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freakgirl (Post 35646098)
Probably end up cancelling phone line, rarely use it anyway

Don't expect that to save you much if anything.

Wild Oscar 17-11-2013 20:55

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Lot's of talk re. cancelling TV services and keeping BB/phone, surely if you do this you will lose your bundle discounts? .. unless retentions get round that somehow?

jfman 17-11-2013 21:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Oscar (Post 35646275)
Lot's of talk re. cancelling TV services and keeping BB/phone, surely if you do this you will lose your bundle discounts? .. unless retentions get round that somehow?

You will partially, but TV is so highly priced that Sky's regular 50% off deals will be a better deal especially for those not bothered about BT Sports.

thedavid2007 18-11-2013 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan92 (Post 35644690)
I spoke to the online chat team to see what they could do for me in terms of reducing my package ; even with the price rise I'd begin to struggle so don't want to go there.

I pay £97 for ;

120meg Broadband
4 TiVo subscriptions
Talk Weekends
Caller Display

They offered

Deal 1

60 meg Broadband
L TV with 4 TiVo boxes
Talk Weekends
Caller Display

£88.49

Deal 2

60 meg Broadband
M+ TV with 4 TiVo boxes
Talk Weekends
Caller Display

£80.20

What do you think?

FTTC is available here next month so really don't want to need to go elsewhere :/


Can you explain how to get into the online chat? Do I download the hub?

Rainman 18-11-2013 16:03

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Do VM think we are all made to accept these price hikes there's been two this year already. And why is it they increase at the same time as BT are they rigging the price.
Again if I make a return call on my Network3 PAYG it cost 3p for a minute, now on VM
its
last number recall 16.34p
Connection cost 15.94
One minute cost 10.6

So thats 42.88p for one minute return call and that's not including the £15.99 a month line rental, do I really need VM phone no I will cancel

Qtx 18-11-2013 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainman (Post 35646524)
So thats 42.88p for one minute return call and that's not including the £15.99 a month line rental, do I really need VM phone no I will cancel

VM say you don't need to have a phone line with them but....it's likely removing the phone will not decrease your bill much. You have to have the phone line to get any of their deals as far as I can see.

Even if you click on their recent adverts the deals are only with phone lines while they are saying you don't have to have one lol

http://s17.postimg.org/q03dxktrh/nophone.png

http://s24.postimg.org/soaspc53n/withphone.png

http://s24.postimg.org/nlyiro24z/redhot.png

So they say you don't have to have the phone line but then make you pay more for the benefit, so that you are better off taking it...

AFM 18-11-2013 18:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35646583)
VM say you don't need to have a phone line with them but....it's likely removing the phone will not decrease your bill much.

Of course not.

If you have broadband only, all they can charge you is the set monthly fee.

If you have a phone line, then you may foolishly actually use it, not realising the extortionate rates they charge. So in effect they offer the phone line "free" as bait for the unwary.

howardmicks 18-11-2013 20:09

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Got my letter today £4.95 with no explanation what has actually gone up,I rang retentions and spoke to Laura I explained I wanted to cancel my tv service and just keep bb and phone reasons for leaving the price rise,she agreed to put a 6 months £5 credit on my account and then then for the remaining 2 till my contract runs out another £5 so no price rise for me

Dave42 18-11-2013 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35646614)
Got my letter today £4.95 with no explanation what has actually gone up,I rang retentions and spoke to Laura I explained I wanted to cancel my tv service and just keep bb and phone reasons for leaving the price rise,she agreed to put a 6 months £5 credit on my account and then then for the remaining 2 till my contract runs out another £5 so no price rise for me

still not got mine yet depends what rise is then decide if going to cancel or not

howardmicks 18-11-2013 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35646617)
still not got mine yet depends what rise is then decide if going to cancel or not

What annoyed me Dave was no explanation as to what as gone up and I think £4.95 increase is outrageous,she said they have been getting calls all day.

Dave42 18-11-2013 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35646625)
What annoyed me Dave was no explanation as to what as gone up and I think £4.95 increase is outrageous,she said they have been getting calls all day.

not be surprised as prices are beyond a joke now Howard mate both VM and sky will only ever have prices rises and it will continue to go only one way up

BenMcr 18-11-2013 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35646614)
Got my letter today £4.95 with no explanation what has actually gone up

Thats because Virgin generally deal in 'bundles', so depending on what you have you may not actually get the full per service increase, or if you've got some deals, may have a higher increase that the change to the services themselves

---------- Post added at 23:36 ---------- Previous post was at 23:35 ----------

So there is no easy way to break it down to per service.

It's connected to the reason the bills were changed.

Gary L 18-11-2013 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35646625)
What annoyed me Dave was no explanation as to what as gone up and I think £4.95 increase is outrageous,she said they have been getting calls all day.

That's a good point really. most people will have all sorts of things in their packages, and they just say the monthly price is going up by £42. but they're not saying what has gone up.

just sounds like random figures being made up regardless. if you don't pay it then somebody else will.

very strange.

howardmicks 19-11-2013 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35646666)
Thats because Virgin generally deal in 'bundles', so depending on what you have you may not actually get the full per service increase, or if you've got some deals, may have a higher increase that the change to the services themselves

---------- Post added at 23:36 ---------- Previous post was at 23:35 ----------

So there is no easy way to break it down to per service.

It's connected to the reason the bills were changed.

Fair enough thanks for the explanation,well thanks to take the price increase off my account they have saved a customer till July at least anyway ;)

SilverLady 19-11-2013 14:39

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What 6.7% increase? I've just had the letter and it works out at 15%.

Increase is going to be £4.50.

I have TV M+, BB L, Caller Display
Phone rental has already been paid year in advance.
Present monthly cost is £29.15. (Excl phone rental)

Am I reading something wrongly?

Kabaal 19-11-2013 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverLady (Post 35646823)
What 6.7% increase? I've just had the letter and it works out at 15%.

Increase is going to be £4.50.

I have TV M+, BB L, Caller Display
Phone rental has already been paid year in advance.
Present monthly cost is £29.15. (Excl phone rental)

Am I reading something wrongly?

The 6.7% is the "average increase".

HDFootyMan 19-11-2013 17:32

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http://recombu.com/digital/news/virg...se_M12444.html

^^^^ Really good breakdown of the price increase, with info on how much extra you'll pay depending on what bundle you're on. For me (Premiere Collection), its going up £5 - glad I got rid of my second TiVo now.

denphone 19-11-2013 17:45

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Personally l am not surprised with the forthcoming price rises as the XL TV price rise is due to BT Sports being on there and the new forthcoming Sky channels agreement , The broadband price rises are for the forthcoming speed increases and the line rental is because it is a easy target for those who have to have landlines.

Dave42 19-11-2013 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35646903)
Personally l am not surprised with the forthcoming price rises as the XL TV price rise is due to BT Sports being on there and the new forthcoming Sky channels agreement , The broadband price rises are for the forthcoming speed increases and the line rental is because it is a easy target for those who have to have landlines.

still only rumour Den hope your not holding your breath

thedavid2007 20-11-2013 03:08

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On the letter I got from virgin media, it said "nobody likes price rises". Oh, that makes me feel so much better.

drintoul 20-11-2013 08:48

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Received my letter today - £4.95 per month increase.

Been thinking for a while that I need to shop around and coincidently (or I suspect not!) I also received a Sky mailing offering a discount for Virgin customers transferring to them of 25% of TV for a year.

The grass isn't always greener as they say. Our current package is £121.99 per month with VM. Basically the VIP deal with a third box and a couple of additional phone services. Sky's offer came in at £117.75 per month for the closest match I could make plus £164 upfront costs. Crucially for me is that I would also need to add a BT Sports subscription which I think is £15 per month. This would mean that the total cost over 12 months would average £146.22 per month.

After 12 months the difference becomes even worse as Sky's "normal price" is £143.25 per month and I would still need to add on the BT Sports subscription.

A couple of other things worth mentioning I suppose is that Sky quote a broadband speed estimate of 40 Mbps as opposed to the 120Mbps I get from VM, and fortunately I'm in an area that actually gets the advertised speed consistently. We also have three VIP SIM Only Mobiles packages with VM where we get unlimited everything for £15 per month. We'd lose the discount on these if we were to move to sky too.

The reason for posting this was to ask if anyone can see something I'm missing. Lots of people seem to be saying that they are getting cheaper deals moving to sky and I was surprised to see that even with their supposed 25% discount they are coming out at around £20 per month more than Virgin. That's after factoring in Virgins price increase and before any increase Sky impose.

Any ideas or suggestions would be very welcome. I know I can downgrade if necessary save money if necessary but am interested in how people seem to be finding Sky cheaper, yet I find them significantly more expensive. Is it just the mix of services we have?

howardmicks 20-11-2013 08:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drintoul (Post 35647059)
Received my letter today - £4.95 per month increase.

Been thinking for a while that I need to shop around and coincidently (or I suspect not!) I also received a Sky mailing offering a discount for Virgin customers transferring to them of 25% of TV for a year.

The grass isn't always greener as they say. Our current package is £121.99 per month with VM. Basically the VIP deal with a third box and a couple of additional phone services. Sky's offer came in at £117.75 per month for the closest match I could make plus £164 upfront costs. Crucially for me is that I would also need to add a BT Sports subscription which I think is £15 per month. This would mean that the total cost over 12 months would average £146.22 per month.

After 12 months the difference becomes even worse as Sky's "normal price" is £143.25 per month and I would still need to add on the BT Sports subscription.

A couple of other things worth mentioning I suppose is that Sky quote a broadband speed estimate of 40 Mbps as opposed to the 120Mbps I get from VM, and fortunately I'm in an area that actually gets the advertised speed consistently. We also have three VIP SIM Only Mobiles packages with VM where we get unlimited everything for £15 per month. We'd lose the discount on these if we were to move to sky too.

The reason for posting this was to ask if anyone can see something I'm missing. Lots of people seem to be saying that they are getting cheaper deals moving to sky and I was surprised to see that even with their supposed 25% discount they are coming out at around £20 per month more than Virgin. That's after factoring in Virgins price increase and before any increase Sky impose.

Any ideas or suggestions would be very welcome. I know I can downgrade if necessary save money if necessary but am interested in how people seem to be finding Sky cheaper, yet I find them significantly more expensive. Is it just the mix of services we have?

Ring them tell them you ain't happy and you can get sky tv on half price deal and if they start saying you are in contract reming them you have 30 days to cancel after recieving letter I got £5 per month deducted till my contract runs out I was going to cancel TV and keep broadband and phone

RobboEdin 20-11-2013 09:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647063)
Ring them tell them you ain't happy and you can get sky tv on half price deal and if they start saying you are in contract reming them you have 30 days to cancel after recieving letter I got £5 per month deducted till my contract runs out I was going to cancel TV and keep broadband and phone

So drintoul has been open and honest in detailing his situation and you tell him to lie to Virgin Media about what Sky have offered?

drintoul 20-11-2013 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35647070)
So drintoul has been open and honest in detailing his situation and you tell him to lie to Virgin Media about what Sky have offered?

To be fair RobboEdin, I didn't read the posting as a suggestion to lie. I just read it as telling them that I wasn't happy with the price going up, which is exactly where I am at. The half price deal mentioned is open to everyone on the Sky website, albeit for a shorter period than the 25% deal offered, swings and roundabouts really.

We are in the fortunate position we can afford to pay these costs but its getting to the point for me that I don't want to as the amount is just getting too big for me to justify in value for money terms.

Need to do some thinking and decide how we go.

howardmicks 20-11-2013 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35647070)
So drintoul has been open and honest in detailing his situation and you tell him to lie to Virgin Media about what Sky have offered?

Who as told him to lie u can get a half price tv deal off sky 2 of my friends just have and kept boardband and phone line thats what I was doing and I wasnt lying.

RobboEdin 20-11-2013 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647081)
Who as told him to lie u can get a half price tv deal off sky 2 of my friends just have and kept boardband and phone line thats what I was doing and I wasnt lying.

I apologise if my post seemed harsh but perhaps you could have pointed him at the 50% off deal and suggested a re-calculation would provide him with a better negotiating position.

The bottom line is that Sky will be better for some and Virgin Media for others.

howardmicks 20-11-2013 11:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35647088)
I apologise if my post seemed harsh but perhaps you could have pointed him at the 50% off deal and suggested a re-calculation would provide him with a better negotiating position.

The bottom line is that Sky will be better for some and Virgin Media for others.

No apology needed,I read it as a misread and me not explaining myself properly bud ;)

Jimmy-J 20-11-2013 18:46

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Got my letter about the increase today, it reminded me to contact them to cancel my TV and Phone, which I've just done. I'll be saving over £20pm after the cancellation kicks in, mid-December.

BTW, the increase on my bill would've been £3.25pm, I think VAT needs to be added to that though? Which would make it £3.90pm http://www.vatcalculator.co.uk/

BenMcr 20-11-2013 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35647304)
BTW, the increase on my bill would've been £3.25pm, I think VAT needs to be added to that though? Which would make it £3.90pm http://www.vatcalculator.co.uk/

No, it's VAT inclusive already

want to know 20-11-2013 19:10

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hi people i still have not received my letter . like most on here i think £ 4.95 is to much .i was with sky from 1989 by the year 2006 i felt i was being ripped off and there bb was crap so i left to go to ntl as it was then but having a look round and reading about sky 50% off for 6 months I'm wondering if sky was worth considering again or just have free sat or free view what do you guys think .

howardmicks 20-11-2013 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by want to know (Post 35647324)
hi people i still have not received my letter . like most on here i think £ 4.95 is to much .i was with sky from 1989 by the year 2006 i felt i was being ripped off and there bb was crap so i left to go to ntl as it was then but having a look round and reading about sky 50% off for 6 months I'm wondering if sky was worth considering again or just have free sat or free view what do you guys think .

Sky 50% off for 12 months bud,at least 3 people I know have cancelled there TV service with vm and switched to sky for that kept bb and phone with vm

Arthurgray50@blu 20-11-2013 21:39

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I think the reason is simple - BT Sport or Premier Sport, VM have got to make some money, so they put the rpices up.

denphone 21-11-2013 05:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35647407)
I think the reason is simple - BT Sport or Premier Sport, VM have got to make some money, so they put the rpices up.

Premier Sports will be going subscription in the New Year Arthur and as for BT Sports well they ain't going to give it to other companies for nothing as it all cost money nowadays and the money shelled out for it needs to be clawed back.

TAZMANUK 21-11-2013 08:25

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Im not a sports fan so u shouldnt be forced to pay more for channels specially sports i dont want.

ill just take off my 08 add on and reduce my broadband or cause im leaving virgin mobile im saving a quid per month on one contract so thats 3 quid with reducing bb speed and the other conttact going in sim only saving 6 quid so 9 quid saving to compensate the price hike.

cookster 21-11-2013 17:56

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10% price rise for me. I'll be gone!

snowey 21-11-2013 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cookster (Post 35647768)
10% price rise for me. I'll be gone!

Me too :mad::mad::mad:

Uncle Peter 21-11-2013 18:17

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Someone has to pay for Dave's pr0n filter infrastructure too and I bet it isn't going to be HMG!

TAZMANUK 21-11-2013 18:59

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Still waiting for lettet

Gary L 21-11-2013 19:04

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Everyone's getting in on the high price rise hikes.

we're supposed to be in the state where we expect things to rise dramatically. so they come as no shock to us when they do and we just accept them.

you wouldn't think people weren't supposed to have any money, would you.

vinnyutd6899 21-11-2013 19:25

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Hi not had a letter :rolleyes:
can anyone tell me how much extra i will be paying a month with this lot?

VIP Collection

Talk International 2

Talk Unlimited Extra Voicemail

TV Size: X L

3 x Additional V Box

V+ HD Monthly Fee

V HD Monthly Fee


TiVo Monthly Fee
Broadband XXL (Up To 120mb)

Loyalty Customer TV Discount SkypremHD Movies4,Movies5,Sports1,Sports2
VIP Collection total£115.75

Promotional offer(s)
You'Re Receiving A Loyalty Discount It's For £12.
If You Change Your Package You May Lose This Discount.
Which Will End 28-JUN-15 12 Months Discount Which Will End on 12-AUG-14
Promotional offer(s)CR £22.00

Phone line rental
Telephone Line Rental
Phone line rental total£14.99

Premium add-ons
MUTV
Premium add-ons total£6.00

Your package total£114.74

Pea-Pod 21-11-2013 20:30

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Letter advising £4.75 increase - What's the price difference between 30MB & 60MB, because I'm currently on 60MB XL and it's part of the bundled charges. If we are getting a 20MB speed boost I could quite easily live with 50MB broadband and save a little by dropping down a tier.

dgcarter 22-11-2013 08:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35644344)
Yes I will be reviewing my options come September when my free sky deal runs out,currently considering sky for TV and vm for broadband and phone unless both give me good deals

How about sky for TV, vm for broadband and Vonage (other voip suppliers are available) for phone. 7.99 per month including uinlimited landline calls.

howardmicks 22-11-2013 08:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dgcarter (Post 35647970)
How about sky for TV, vm for broadband and Vonage (other voip suppliers are available) for phone. 7.99 per month including uinlimited landline calls.

Wow cheers for the info bud ;)

Dave42 23-11-2013 16:53

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got my letter this morning £4.95 rise good chance could cancel :mad::mad::mad:

denphone 23-11-2013 16:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35648544)
got my letter this morning £4.95 rise good chance could cancel :mad::mad::mad:

It won't be any greener on the other side as their bills will go up soon enough.

Dave42 23-11-2013 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35648548)
It won't be any greener on the other side as their bills will go up soon enough.

well I certainly wont be going to sky Den pay lot more for what I got and would lose so much be crappy freeview sadly if we cancel but will certainly keep broadband

jobbie8 23-11-2013 17:59

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My letter came today, £5.50 rise.

Line rental up £1
XL TV up £2.50
BB 30MB up £2

Called Retentions with true intentions on leaving for the first time after 15 years and after a que of 10 mins, (seemed very busy in the background) and a phone call lasting 30 mins the lovely lady I spoke to got me to stay for another year.
She was very down to earth and agreed that the price rise was steep this year. Great customer service and made me feel valued again as a customer.

Stayed with the same services with my bill being reduced too.

Mr K 26-11-2013 09:25

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6.7% is a lie.

My increase is 10.5%, I've seen others report increases in the range of 8 to 15%.

So how have they come up with this 6.7% figure ? Think I've worked it out - it relates to line rental only, £14.99 to £15.99 is 6.7% ! How many customers just pay line rental ? So saying its an 'average' is an outright lie.

Somebody at VM must think they're very clever. However most of their customers aren't that stupid (well those that can work out percentages anyway...)

RobboEdin 26-11-2013 09:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35649411)
6.7% is a lie.

My increase is 10.5%, I've seen others report increases in the range of 8 to 15%.

So how have they come up with this 6.7% figure ? Think I've worked it out - it relates to line rental only, £14.99 to £15.99 is 6.7% ! How many customers just pay line rental ? So saying its an 'average' is an outright lie.

Somebody at VM must think they're very clever. However most of their customers aren't that stupid (well those that can work out percentages anyway...)

I see no evidence that this figure came from Virgin Media.

The figure comes from a BBC source, quoted in the first post in this thread.

It is, I would suggest, the BBC that did the same calculation as yourself and suggested 6.7% as the average increase to be applied across all services.

Happy to blame Virgin Media for what seem excessive increases but, unless you can find a direct Virgin Media source saying average 6.7%, the mis-information has come from the BBC.

Mr K 26-11-2013 09:51

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Every media outlet is quoting the 6.7% figure so it's not just the BBC. Would love to see the actual press release they put out. No wonder they haven't been transparent about which packages are going up by how much.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-8935270.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...s-rise-2784977
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/new...6-7-price-hike

RobboEdin 26-11-2013 09:56

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I accept what you say but can see no direct Virgin Media source for the figure.

As the Virgin Media website is now showing the new prices, you can work out the true percentages for the standard Collections, e.g. Premiere Collection was £62.99, now £67.99, 7.9%.

Mr K 26-11-2013 10:21

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How about this:-
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadban...-up-prices-too

".....from February customers will see cable bills increase, by 6.7% on average, so we’re looking to help them get more for their money," said the ISP

Extreme porky pies I think, unless VM have their own definition of average.
Which customers have seen an increase of less than 6.7% ? None that don't have line rental (in which case they don't have cable).

eljay 26-11-2013 11:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35649426)
How about this:-
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadban...-up-prices-too

".....from February customers will see cable bills increase, by 6.7% on average, so we’re looking to help them get more for their money," said the ISP

Extreme porky pies I think, unless VM have their own definition of average.
Which customers have seen an increase of less than 6.7% ? None that don't have line rental (in which case they don't have cable).

Those of us who have BB only products will not see any price rise in February. So zero is a good base line to create statistics.

Plus you can have cable without line rental. As of Friday all my services will be with SKY other than BB which will be with VM and no line rental to pay to VM.

Gary L 26-11-2013 12:48

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10 - 15% price increase is extortionate.
but as I said before. everyone are just putting their prices up for the sake of it. to try and get as much money as they can.

no sooner will this one be over, then they'll come back for more.

greeninferno 26-11-2013 14:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35649465)
10 - 15% price increase is extortionate.
but as I said before. everyone are just putting their prices up for the sake of it. to try and get as much money as they can.

no sooner will this one be over, then they'll come back for more.

it is

but there surely must be some improvements to the services in the pipeline other than more download speed on the broadband side?

TAZMANUK 26-11-2013 15:11

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Mines going up 5.75pm

ive cancelled 08 phone add on so now its 3.75, my virgim mobiles expire in jan 2014 both are 18.05 each per month so one im cancelling got better deal at 16.99 per month and other been changed to sim only at 12 quid per month...

so my mobile change brings it to 2.70 but then other mobile saving of 6.05 minus the 2.70.

But come april.my discount expires and ill downgrade 120 bb to 60 since 60 is going to 120.

That will teach them to up the prices...

BenMcr 26-11-2013 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TAZMANUK (Post 35649532)
But come april.my discount expires and ill downgrade 120 bb to 60 since 60 is going to 120.

60Mb will go to 100Mb

TAZMANUK 26-11-2013 17:47

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Still enough for me :)


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