Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 

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Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 

Just checked and my speed is to be increased from 60 to 100 between July and Dec 2014 at no extra cost.

Sounds good but no doubt there will be a price increase before then.

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 

Yeah mine is going from 60 to 100 between March and May.

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It does say you have to agree to sign up for a new 12 month contract.

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Not bothered now we have the new traffic management.

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Not too bothered about singing a new contract, virgin media is the only fibre broadband available to me anyway.

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Between May and October for me, So almost a year away as I bet it'll be nearer October than May.

15Meg upload? That page doesn't seem to mention upload at all

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I've just signed in to My Virgin Media and they're offering to increase my 30Mb/s service to 50Mb/s next year, "from July" I think it said. Does anyone know if it is likely that upload speeds for 30Mb/s and 60Mb/s services will have been restored to a 10:1 ratio (i.e. my upload increased from 2Mb/s to 3Mb/s) before they start on this new round of increasing download speed?

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would be nice to see the 120mb it says I should have been on since July

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kwikbreaks be happy with the extra utilisation :p

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Ditto.

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Cannot seem to be able to use the pre-register button to find out target upgrade timescales for some reason but since on 60MB now that means an upgrade to 100MB. Well I'm impressed with that and nicely timed with Infinity now in the local area as well. Upload is not a big issue for me but expect 10:1 ratio to apply so 10MB upload as well. Good stuff!

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Whats that, i have not been hit for weeks now :)

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Assuming it'll be 10:1 ratio i have to wonder whether they will take forever to bump the upload to 15mb like they did with the last upgrade. STM policies also make the upload bump negligible if they stay the same as everyone will be reduced to 5mb after a couple of GB instead of 4mb :p

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question.

will the previous upgrades (including restoring 10:1) be done before this starts?

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Interesting. I was sure they were going to go 50/100/200 or 60/120/200. Can't complain at 150Mbit though and the 50/100 tiers will nicely target infinity so I guess that makes sense. Couple with the new traffic management, then I guess that means 50/100 tiers should still always be faster than infinity? (yes yes, congestion, blah blah).

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They're only taking forever with the lower tiers. I've never seen anyone on 120Meg with less than 12meg upload. 50 -> 100 was stuck on 100/5 for a while but when they went to 120, it has always had 12 as far as I've seen.

30 and 60 sure are taking their sweet time, though. Are we going to see people on 100/3? Yuck.

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I like this continual improvement approach that VM are taking - up tp a point.

In terms of traffic management, the same constraints due to architecture are present. VM have speed enhancing tools at their disposal such as the symbol rate (as per TC's stats) which IMO they do need to deploy so as avoid increased saturation due to higher speeds.

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I think you are forgetting just how much time passed Kushan, a lot of people were stuck on the lower tier upload for a long time, they were all on 100/5, 60/3 and 30/? instead of 10:1. It was around spring 2012 it started and some people haven't long had their upload bumped to 10:1, we're now heading towards 2014.

120mb is the only current tier that has always had the proper ratio so one can hope that the same thing happens with 150mb.

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Being on 120mb is great but don't get me wrong anything 'free' is also great (that's if it's not just an excuse to put the prices up in general), but who really need 150mb. It's getting to the point where you need SSDs and to shave a few seconds or a couple of minutes off a download is no longer a selling point in my opinion.

Stick with the tiers they have now but get rid of traffic management would be a much better option all round.

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Not really peanut, download speed would have to be faster than around 30MB/s or 240mb for people's old hard drives to start being the bottleneck, most modern HDD's are capable of 2 to 3 times that speed.

Once VM start offering GB connections then worry about SSDs :p:

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I am still waiting for my upload speed upgrade! still on 60\3 and i don't really want a new 12 month contract as i would like to move house sometime next year.

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If it's like the doubling it's going to be ages away. Initial promise for me was July-Dec 2014 I think - I clicked register an interest and it doesn't tell me any more - probably just clicking put it back a year :) I'm pretty sure my son is still waiting on his 120Mbps.

To my mind this is more Jam Tomorrow. Whether I'll still be with VM "tomorrow" is more dependent on pricing than speed these days.

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I'm not a mega-downloader and so I prefer traffic management to be in place so that at least I get some share of capacity.

If traffic management is removed completely, in high density areas, congestion will slow the mega-downloaders but will also penalise the "innocent" to an extent that they may not suffer as present.

So I cannot agree with you on that point.

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It was the need to advertise "unlimited" that lead to the STM alterations not any increase in network capacity. To my mind the new reduction levels, which haven't arrived for me yet although I do now see STM again, offer so little relief to the network they may as well scrap them anyway.

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With QAM64 being rolled out on the upstream, I would assume so

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Is this confirmed yet?

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Seph, as per my post here, other users with QAM64 upstreams have the same symbol rate, not to mention TC's claimed symbol rate is 5 times lower than others (I suspect some editing has taken place here)

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Craig

I've asked for confirmation behind the scenes. We'll see what they tell me.

Cheers

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Interesting, I'd happily take the 60 to 100 free upgrade, but before I click the "pre-registration" button I have a question.

Would I lose the £5 a month loyalty discount that I currently have if I end up taking this free upgrade? I assume this is something that retentions would have to look at?

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i see the top tier is being ripped off once again with a negligable speed increase. I am not going to get excited about it either, it says 2014 but that will be the initial rollout. The time it takes them to get round to this stuff we'll probably be having this conversation this time in 2 years (end of 2015 and allowing a year and a half for the rollout). Hopefully at that point they'll be announcing the rollout for docsis 3.1 across 2016.

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152/15 sound good but they should have 200/20 for the same price for 120/12 customers. Disappointed.

I think if you pre-register it, 12 months contract but you probably end up stuck at 152/12. I would rather wait because they never metion upload speed yet? And you might lose discount loyalty too.

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Well it's all good as sooner or later I'd be able to drop down a tier without losing too much noticable speed and end up saving a bit in the process.

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Barring the recontract taking the upgrade won't trigger any bundle changes as far as I'm aware.

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I fear that as well, I think this is one that's best to ask retentions about when it arrives.

I hope not, as I'm still going to remain on the same tier level as far as I know.

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So mine is due to be upgraded to 120Mb (finally) by the end of this month and then upgraded to 152Mb sometime between March and May next year.
April/May is when my contract expires anyway so nice timing

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It will be 152/15 next year not 152/12. - still behind BT upload speed :(

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I am surprised at the jump from 120 to 152 - I would have thought the jump would be higher.

Still, good news though all round I'd say !

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That include people on mates rates?

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your 'only' means a lot tho given most VM customers are not on the 120 tier.

Not sure why VM feel the need to always be faster than BT, its this policy thats their undoing with congestion.

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it is the only thing they have got going for them atm. You can see the marketing gurus at it already:

"love gaming and streaming HD movies, then you need the UK's fastest fiber optic broadband connection from Virgin Media......."

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As far as I know, yes

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Well I got the notification, so I think it's fine for mates rates. They usually treat me pretty well :P

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Tbb article says this will begin in February but this also comes along with an average price increase of 6.7% for cable customers but no details yet on what exactly will go up. Not good for these tightening of 'strings times.

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I've been poking around looking for this - I kinda expected some sort of upgrade on the horizon. I don't know if its linked, but this could be a ploy to prevent people switching to BT for the TV/Broadband combo now that they have the football rights.

Theoretically Virgin should be able to wipe the floor with BT if they can boast not only the BT sports channels but the fastest broadband around too.

Looking forward to the upgrade. I'm assuming it wont need any more major cabinet upgrades will it, as the 120meg upgrades would have surely added future capacity into the cabs?

152mb is what mine says it'll be...bit of an odd number but hey ho. Bring on 100/200/500mbps in 2015.

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On the flip side people could downgrade from 120mb to the future 100mb to save money while having their speed almost unaltered.

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Indeeed, bottom tier went 10 -> 30 -> 50, mid tier went 20 -> 60 -> 100, top tier went 100 -> 120 -> 150

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Well it's never been the UK's fastest, Gigaclear or Hyperoptic anyone?

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My old Be DSL connection could send and receive a message to BBC in only 5ms. Seems faster than pretty much every VM connection I've seen ;)

ie. there are various definitions of 'fast'!

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Gigaclear & Hyperoptic are still the fastest broadband in UK.

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There was also the price drop those on 100Mbit got in addition to the 100 > 120 increase.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/01/vir...eed-increases/

Which none of the other tiers got.

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The ispreview had now saying "Generally Virgin says that their existing broadband customers should expect to receive a download boost of “at least 20Mbps“. But uploads will not be improved and you’ll have to sign-up to a new 12 month contract in order to benefit."

So, 152Mb will get the same upload on 12Mb. Pretty pointless to upgrade.

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There is nothing in it to say that the 'no increase to uploads' has come from VM directly http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...s-package.html

If/what is happening to uploads hasn't been confirmed yet

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Even so, 100 had price dropped to match 50, so effectively would have been 50-120-150 (3x increase)

Which in terms of final speed to initial speed a year or two ago is still a worse ratio than 10-30-50 (5x increase) or 20-60-100 (5x increase).

Oh and in addition to the lowest speed increase they (50 & 100) also got the addition of STM, which none of the other tiers got (cause they already had it, whereas 50/100 were exempt). So in fact minimum regulated speeds, at peak times, went from:

2.5 (10 STM'd) => 43 (17x increase)
5.0 (20 STM'd) => 86 (17x increase)
50 => 129 (2.5x increase)
100 => 129 (1.3x increase, and price drop to match 50)

Which makes the top tier look like they're getting ripped off even worse!

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Nobody was ripped off by VM. The mega-downloaders would have ripped me off had they not been STMd.

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Some people will never be happy.

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Both those statements are as silly as each other lol.

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I'm sure there's some mental disability that covers that nowadays.

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So I suppose top tier 152MB config speeds could be as follows?

Download Speed: 160000000 bps - 152.58 Mbps
Upload Speed: 15000000 bps - 14.30Mbps

And if they are required to spend another 12 months on upgrades that just tells me they will probably gonna have to add max available download channels to 8 and upload to 4.

Just speculating...

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 

Upload will not be including as part of new 152Mb say Virgin Media: http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...nd/m-p/2060120

What about upload speeds? Will these increase too?



The boost is for download speeds only for now.

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absolutely, I am very interested to see what sort of speed I get on my vmng300. I can't see them getting away with not increasing the upload speed, they'll be ripped to pieces for it given the current ratios other isps are advertising. I cant see them maxing 4 upstream channels available just yet given that it has taken them yonks to make two available and they are still rolling the speed increases out to the lower tiers.

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Doesn't rule out changes completely though

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No upload increase is a bit of a joke especially for 120mb customers. The difference between 15MB/s and 18MB/s will hardly be noticable and will mean nothing to most people yet any increase on the upload would have considering it's already so low.

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^^ as I say before that virgin media isn't interesting on upload.

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Looking at the FAQ, I think your right http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...nd/m-p/2060120

So if I'm reading this right my £5 loyalty discount should by rights remain intact for the remaining period left on it and just extend any contract?

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I don't suppose that those already on 120mb will get a price reduction to the cost of 60mb?

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Nope, because the two tiers will end up on completely different speeds

The reason 100Mbit customers got price reduction to the same as 50Mbit was because those two tiers were/are merged into 120Mbit

However, as long as you aren't a bundle that has a fixed broadband element, you'll be able to downgrade if you want to pay the XL tier price

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When will these new speeds be available to new customers ? Anyone any ideas ?

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Thankfully they seem to be doing away with the STM, only a matter of time now I think.

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I'm guessing the reason upload will remain the same is because VM maybe waiting until they have overhauled the network for QAM64 upload in all areas which seems like it's going to take them quite some time to accomplish.

Another point MyVM mentioned nothing about requiring a new 12-month contract when I checked it earlier today. Not sure if they mistakenly left that piece of info off or not. It did say 120 to 152 though. Mixed signals as usual it seems.

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VM have form for offering the new speeds to new customers while existing customers either have to wait or phone in and agree to new contracts - I'd guess that once it starts new customers will get the new speeds whether or not their area is ready as that is what happened last time.

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ya, hopefully the postcode checker will be updated asap with an initial rollout schedule

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In my case as being user of 120Mb service, If they do not increase Upload speeds at all and keep it 12Mb then it's kind of pointless committing for another 12 month contract even if it's no extra charge for it..

Without upload speed being upgraded then it looks as follows:

50Mb Down 3Mb Up (2Mb)
100Mb Down 3Mp Up
152Mb Down 12Mb Up

Will have to think twice whether to upgrade or not.. Does not seem to be worth it..

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It already gives a schedule - for instance mine says

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Good point.

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Spot on

126Mb become 145Mb (only 19Mb extra) but not worth it for another 12 months contract. (I am fed up with virgin greedy git try to keep u on for another 12 months just for 19Mb extra of speed)

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mines going up to 100mb between July and December 14 though this could be quicker as the roll out should be smoother now they've upgraded the network

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They're not forcing you to sign anything. You can opt in if you want, or don't, it's up to you.

Personally, I think it's quite clever of them. Give people "free" speed upgrades to keep them from leaving, but raise the price of the product regardless. It's kind of a double win for Virgin.

Of course, considering that they are raising prices, it's a bit rich of them to say that the upgrade is "free".

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Any price increase you are subject allows you to leave, so the only way it can work is if the new contracts for the speed increase happen after a price increase. Therefore the ball is completely in the customer's court

Any price increases are not connected to the speed increase i.e. they would happen whether you got an increase or not

Therefore the increases themselves are 'no extra cost'

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nope, mine is months out of date

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Wrong one, that's for the previous upgrade - the new one is at www.virginmedia.com/speedupgrade

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something you can get them to fix tomorrow

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...nd/m-p/2060120

"When will the broadband speed upgrades take place?

We’re beginning our upgrade work at the beginning of 2014 and anticipate that it will take 12 months to bring new, faster broadband speeds to all our eligible customers across the country. We’ll be updating our postcode checker every step of the way, so you can always find out the latest view on when your area will be upgraded. All you need to do is visit this page and enter your postcode to find out when faster broadband speeds will be available in your area.


Thanks for the link though, July-December for me too. It'll probably be November because that is when all the other upgrades have been done over the years.

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I wish they would increase there upload speeds like now!

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Clutching at straws there fella.

Obviously, you are correct.

But good luck to anyone actually getting service from either of those.

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Why don't you sign up with them then?

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I don't believe you're under any obligation to accept?

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Because it isn't available in Telford area, but I wish they do.

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It's pretty much not available anywhere. But hey! It's the fastest in the country.

Woohoo.

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Doubt i will notice any difference from 120mb to 152mb they should have gone to 200mb i can see my self dropping a tier if they are bumping the price up for little gain.

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If the price increasing for 120Mb then I will drop down to 60Mb tier.

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I may be being blind, but I can't see anywhere that you are required to extend your current contract.

Also, I look forward to this being pushed back 6 months like every other speed increase. 2015 here we come!

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I couldn't see it either.

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Course 150Mb isn't available anywhere either. Woohoo.

BT 330Mb is available in more areas right now than VM's 150Mb, and probably will be for another year.

Also VM keeps launching new speeds but my area doesn't get them until 2 years after everyone else.

Double woohoo.

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 

Using ADSL2+ now as my cable broadband down again. Tech guy coming out tomorrow (booked in) as they say my modem isn't connection to their network proper.

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 

Why don't you sign up with one of the UK's fastest fibre broadband providers that you advised of then?

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I'm sure that it'll be made clear about any recontract requirement at the time you actually have to make the choice to upgrade or not

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My cable back on, up and running but my modem had changed sync rate! Thank alots Virgin Media for throttling me.

Primary Downstream Service Flow SFID 38684
Max Traffic Rate 133000000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow SFID 38683
Max Traffic Rate 12000000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst 16320 bytes
Scheduling Type Best Effort

back to 126.78Mb and 11.73Mb. My 150Mb/15Mb had disappear now. :(

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I'm surprised the aren't adding the long talked about 200/20 package on top of the boosts and charge more for it.

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I thought Virgin say extra speed for free with no extra charge but they lying again. I will cancel VM in my own rights if they did price rise again next February 2014 on my 120Mb

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A VM staffer has said that the profile posted by TC doesn't line up with any of the planned downstream tiers. The staffer didn't say anything about the upstream symbol rate - something I was particularly interested in.

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I'm headed for 152. Why are they not maintaining the 10:1 ratio? This sets a precedent.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...s-package.html

Edit.............................................. .................................

This prediction was made in 2009. It looks like slippage to me. http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...band-19091354/

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See ya!

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VM taking the micky AGAIN, still on 3MB up when do i get 6, will it be before Dec 2014?

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thanks for update :)