The shame of the government.
 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...sabled-2711526

The shame of this government is that they are forcing this guy to PROVE he cannot work.

Read this story which is similar to other people in the same boat, this is the sad truth that this government is picking on the wrong people.

The government should be trying to get rid of illegals immigrants in this country that is stretching this whole country to the limits and start listening to medical advice from PROFESSIONAL GP, and NOT some DRs that think they are helping to save the government money by getting the disabled back to work, which they cannot do.

Its totally wrong and DWP should be totally ashamed.

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so why doesn't he ?

So he fills the form in and gets the benefits ,what's the problem

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Why are ALL your threads about the Government Arthur? Nothing else interest you at all?

Yes its wrong and cases like these keep coming up every month. However for every case like this there are probably dozens more that are done right and catch out those who are ripping the pee out of the system but just aren't reported in the media.

Despite what you may think, illegal imigrants are a priority, and a lot is being done to find, catch and deport them when possible.

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Off topic argument removed.

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This is actually another ATOS DWP case rather than the government. Ok its el gov policy but ATOS have continually been shown to be unfit for purpose

Dunno where the illegal immigrants come from in this though

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What happens if he had no parents?It is a possibility is it not that one day he could be left alone in the world.Then it's going to be a whole different case indeed.In fact what if his parents ever decide they can't cope and don't have the resources to continue to care for him? How much will it then cost the taxpayer to take over his care?

The welfare bill would be much higher if it wasn't for the huge number of family members who care for their parents,spouses,children,grandchildren,aunts,uncle s.

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It was Arthur that mentioned them.

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WHAT HAS IT GOT TO DO WITH ATOS. He hasn't been seen by them.

The DWP were simply asking for info to make that decision. Even if the decision went against them, they would receive the assessment rate of ESA whilst they appealed.

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When I was going for my assessment I was told to get letters from my consultants and got the same response from all three that I couldn't ask for it the DWP had to request it so something is wrong with the system. That was only last year so doubt massive change has happened and it also wasn't the case the consultants didn't know how things were as the medical secretary's said exactly the same. When I then contacted the DWP they said if it was needed they would request it but never did so if they knew they had to request it why tell me to get it. It's no wonder so many genuine fall foul of this broken system but what the hey money is being saved so price worth paying.

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But he does,and his father said "it wasn't about money they could take care of him" ,so why is he whinging to the press instead of filling out the relevant forms to get the money he doesn't want or need


which is exactly as it should be

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Just another Arthur rant where he reads something wrongly and assumes he can rant about the Tories :rolleyes:

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Isn't that what families are supposed to do?

Why does everything need to be the governments, and therefore the taxpayers, problem?

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Eventually there may not be 'family' to take care of their son..especially as parents get older and more infirm.Then the state will be paying out far more than £71.

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Also I'm a taxpayer as well and I've no problem with this poor boy getting financial assistance.

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And where does it say he was turned down? They simply wanted more that a simple letter from the GP. The parents were just too stubborn to do that. No decision one way or another had yet been taken

If being at school was serving a purpose other than being a babysitter, doesn't that possibly suggest that he is capable of more than the parents are implying?

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Its a lack of training the staff

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:confused:
They correctly asked for more evidence than a letter from a GP before deciding whether an ATOS assessment was needed. They obviously thought that if the info on the form was correct, then he wouldn't need an assessment, because there would be all sorts of documentation from consultants which hadn't been provided by the parents..

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I can answer several points on this matter.

1) This government have selected a private sector company to go through thousands of people that are sick and disabled and forcing them into work.

It has proved how insensitive they are by asking for MORE proof that this guy CANNOT work, yet his Medical paperwork from his Drs have said he cannot. The Drs word should be final.

The government are picking on the wrong people, instead of spending millions of pounds of getting the sick and disabled back to work. They should be picking on the people that WON'T work or even try and find work.

Yes, work is hard to find, but l know of several people that won't work and they claim benefit, and its more than what they would earn if they found a job.

2) The Government could save millions on stopping immigrants or illegals coming into the country and stretching our country to the limit.

Look in the papers and you will see that we will now have Romanians coming into country and they are sleeping rough in Central London. And they have stated in the papers yesterday that there are gangs coming over here - as the welfare system is soft and they can burglar houses and pickpocket each day.

I know of an area near where l work where there are Romanian Winder Washers earning £200 - £300 per day. They get there for 8am and disappear at dark, the police cannot catch them as they disappear.

The government will waste millions on clearing them from certain area's. The government can stop this overnight - just dont let them in.

Would it happen in other countries - NO.

Am l ranting against the Tories - Yes, WHY, They are letting in people that will rip off the country, yet picking on the poor and vulneable and disabled to save money.

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:tu:

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As I said, if somebody is that disabled etc, they will have had contact with consultants. GPs are NOT expert in all(if any) medical areas. They tend to refer patients on to consultants as they don't have the required expertise. The DWP are not simply going to take a generalised pronouncement from a GP as absolute proof. The DWP asked for evidence and the parents couldn't be bothered to provide it. The DWP obviously thought that there was more evidence that could be easily provided or they would have simply passed the buck onto ATOS to do an assessment. It looks like they were trying to avoid the need for that. Doesn't that show that they were trying to respect the claimants claimed disabilities by not putting them through an assessment?

It's not as if parents don't lie about their children.
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Great four years for £250k can't wait to see how long the bankers get for stealing hundreds of times that.

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Yes and it's people like them who make life so much harder (as if it isn't hard enough already) for genuine disabled people, their parents and carers.

We may be fortunate (if you can call it that), but we have copious evidence from various medical professionals which sets out our youngest's problems and limitations so won't find it either awkward or unreasonable if at some point it's requested by one agency or another. What I don't understand is why these parents found the request for more information so difficult. Maybe they were just tired of all the stress and grief being a carer can entail. :confused:

As had been pointed out above, carers do save the nation a fortune and IMHO deserve a bit more support than they currently get. It would actually save money if more people could afford to act as carers but as things stand doing this often involves an intolerable loss of income and a severe setback in terms of their long term employment prospects and even personal relationships.