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Sirius

05-11-2013 13:46

India Mars Probe Mangalyaan Blasts Off

So a country we give millions and millions of pounds to can afford to send a probe to mars. Just shows what is wrong with giving money to other country's and why we are still the mugs we are for doing it.

http://news.sky.com/story/1164028/in...aan-blasts-off

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An Indian rocket has blasted off on the country's first mission to Mars as it aims to become the only Asian nation to reach the Red Planet.

The rocket carrying the unmanned probe took off at 9.08am GMT from the Sriharikota spaceport, close to Chennai.

It entered orbit around Earth 44 minutes later, the country's space agency confirmed.

The gold-coloured probe, which weighs 1,350kg (2,976lb), is about the size of a small car and is being carried by a 350-tonne rocket - much smaller than the US or Russian equivalents.

Gary L

05-11-2013 13:57

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At least we know, and we can say that it was our rocket.

Dave should give them some more money for another few more rockets. and put our taxes up.

tizmeinnit

05-11-2013 14:41

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could most likely build a nuclear power station with the money we have aided them and they have wasted on this

This has angered me actually. Takes the WeeWee

Sirius

05-11-2013 15:03

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35641032)

could most likely build a nuclear power station with the money we have aided them and they have wasted on this

This has angered me actually. Takes the WeeWee

I await the arrival of those who still think it is a good idea to fund country's like this who can afford to build nuclear bombs and send rockets to Mars. Meanwhile we cut benefits and treat our OAP's like **** :rolleyes:

tizmeinnit

05-11-2013 15:06

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35641041)

I await the arrival of those who still think it is a good idea to fund country's like this who can afford to build nuclear bombs and send rockets to Mars. Meanwhile we cut the benefits and treat our OAP's like **** :rolleyes:

I know what you mean :) the same ones who would give our country up eventually to Islam ( and the ones who would normally have a pop cuz I bought Islam up)

Nidge41

05-11-2013 15:44

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35641020)

They can build a rocket but they can't build a sewer system.

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35641041)

They'll be along shortly.

thenry

05-11-2013 16:14

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India has already said they don't need aid yet Dave insists.

Mick Fisher

05-11-2013 17:34

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35641020)

It makes my blood boil :mad:

Sirius

05-11-2013 19:00

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35641087)

It makes my blood boil :mad:

Maybe the info they get back from the probe will help them feed there staving population or build a better health care, oh wait that's what we are paying for :rolleyes:

thenry

05-11-2013 19:07

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according to a 'bod' (sorry I can't remember the name) on SkyNews earlier, this venture will bring in more money for India so for them to invest the same amount into health care would have been pointless.. apparently. Also India spent a lot less on this venture than the western countries due to not having countless multi million pound meetings over crap, basically get on with it.

Gary L

05-11-2013 19:14

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35641120)

Maybe the info they get back from the probe will help them feed there staving population or build a better health care, oh wait that's what we are paying for :rolleyes:

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India hopes to find evidence of methane when it reaches the planet.

The existence of the gas would lend weight to the idea of Mars being able to support life

I'd say they're hoping to send them all up there.

Mr K	05-11-2013 20:18

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35641125)

Where's a decent leader to fight for the common man?

He's below, got to be worth a go surely......
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/11/39.jpg

Mick Fisher

06-11-2013 17:12

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35641125)

The figures suggest there would be more than enough thrust to send Cameron on a one way journey to the red planet.

I am so disappointed in him, so out of touch. :(

Not that I want millipede let anywhere near the levers of power or Clegg to ever get any leverage as he's a loony.

Where's a decent leader to fight for the common man?

Indeed. Hence the rise in UKIP support I guess.

At least Millipede is starting to talk the talk, if it wasn't on a run up to an election I might even take him seriously :rolleyes:

Chris

06-11-2013 17:31

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Meanwhile, in news from 12 months ago:

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The UK is to end financial aid to India by 2015, international development secretary Justine Greening has said.
Support worth about £200m ($319m) will be phased out between now and 2015 and the UK's focus will then shift to offering technical assistance.
Ms Greening said the move, which will be popular with Tory MPs, reflected India's economic progress and status.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20265583

I assume at least some of those who will welcome this (old) news, will at least accept that in withdrawing aid, the UK has to give sufficient notice to those organisations, and Indian government departments, that may already have planned and budgeted for it, and that 2015 is a reasonable deadline for that.

Also, from the same article:

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India spends £70bn on its social welfare budget, compared with £2.2bn on defence and £780m on space exploration.

So it's not as if they're sitting back and letting us handle their entire welfare and development bill for them.

The Coalition took the correct decision last year.

Sirius

06-11-2013 17:33

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35641467)

Meanwhile, in news from 12 months ago:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20265583

I assume at least some of those who will welcome this (old) news, will at least accept that in withdrawing aid, the UK has to give sufficient notice to those organisations, and Indian government departments, that may already have planned and budgeted for it, and that 2015 is a reasonable deadline for that.

Also, from the same article:

So it's not as if they're sitting back and letting us handle their entire welfare and development bill for them.

The Coalition took the correct decision last year.

Now we need to stop aid to another country that can afford a weapons program it does not need. Pakistan springs to mind !

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Finally, on 28 May 1998, a few weeks after India's second nuclear test (Operation Shakti), Pakistan detonated five nuclear devices in the Ras Koh Hills in the Chagai district, Balochistan. This operation was named Chagai-I by Pakistan, the underground iron-steel tunnel having been long-constructed by provincial Martial Law Administrator General Rahimuddin Khan during the 1980s. The last test of Pakistan was conducted at the sandy Kharan Desert under a codename Chagai-II, also in Balochistan, on May 30, 1998. Pakistan's fissile material production takes place at Nilore, Kahuta, and Khushab/Jauharabad, where weapons-grade plutonium is made by the scientists. Pakistan thus became the 7th country in the world to successfully develop and test nuclear weapons.[12] There are also reports that the nuclear weapon technology and the weapon-grade enriched uranium was transferred to Pakistan by China.[13]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ay-NO-tax.html

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The UK government has announced plans to end aid to India by 2015, but at the same time the amount of money going to its neighbour Pakistan is set to soar from £267 million now to £446 million in 2014/15, making it the biggest recipient of foreign aid.

At least they have good well funded nuclear weapons :rolleyes:

Mick Fisher

06-11-2013 17:39

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35641469)

Now we need to stop aid to another country that can afford a weapons program it does not need. Pakistan springs to mind !

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ay-NO-tax.html

If we are too skint to properly fund the NHS then we are too skint to give aid to anyone. :mad:

Sirius

06-11-2013 18:20

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35641470)

If we are too skint to properly fund the NHS then we are too skint to give aid to anyone. :mad:

Gets my vote :tu:

Mr K	06-11-2013 18:26

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We're still a relatively rich country in terms of GDP - 23rd out of 184 countries according to this list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...al)_per_capita

India is 138th reflecting that a large proportion of its population live in slums - whilst the rest seem to be affluent. It's to their shame that they are wasting money on rockets instead of fixing their own society.

India isn't a priority but we can be proud we do donate to others. The amount is minute - 0.7% of national income - so those asking for it to be cut - it would make diddly squat difference to our budget. That money means a lot to others if targeted at the right areas.

TheDaddy

06-11-2013 22:33

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35641120)

Maybe the info they get back from the probe will help them feed there staving population or build a better health care, oh wait that's what we are paying for :rolleyes:

Or provide us with intelligence or surveillance or fight our war on terror either.

Mick Fisher

07-11-2013 16:22

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35641487)

But it would make a world of difference to a couple of OAP's freezing to death, sat on their sofa in their own front room cause they can't afford to put the heating on.

TheDaddy

07-11-2013 17:04

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35641845)

But it would make a world of difference to a couple of OAP's freezing to death, sat on their sofa in their own front room cause they can't afford to put the heating on.

Tbh I'd rather not pay for either out of my taxes, why the hell are we subsidising energy company profits.

Sirius

07-11-2013 17:26

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35641865)

Tbh I'd rather not pay for either out of my taxes, why the hell are we subsidising energy company profits.

Why are we subsidizing Terrorists out of our taxes. I don't beleave for one second that the Pakistani Government are not in league with the Taliban in some way. If i had my way we would have cut them off years ago.

budwieser

07-11-2013 21:27

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:DThey fired a rocket at Mars.................... Lets hope Mars sends more than a few back! :)

TheDaddy

08-11-2013 04:46

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35641877)

We were talking about India.

richard s

08-11-2013 11:12

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Does the 57 million pounds that we give to India each year - does this actually get to the poor people. Anyone know.

Mick Fisher

08-11-2013 18:04

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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35642058)

Does the 57 million pounds that we give to India each year - does this actually get to the poor people. Anyone know.

Yes I think so but most is spent on administration :rolleyes:

thenry

08-11-2013 18:29

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35642223)

Yes I think so but most is spent on administration :rolleyes:

administration?

Mick Fisher

08-11-2013 18:32

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35642234)

administration?

Yeah same as most "charitys" :rolleyes:

budwieser

08-11-2013 21:53

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So, Why do we actually give any money to India or any other country as aid at all,? None of it helps. !!!!!!! Live aid 1 and 2 didn`t make any kind of a change to their lives.!

thenry

08-11-2013 22:37

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because taking on the actual problem head on pee's people off and this make do act does a temp job while time is brought to actually get to the issue(s).

Mick Fisher

09-11-2013 17:02

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35642286)

So, Why do we actually give any money to India or any other country as aid at all,? None of it helps. !!!!!!! Live aid 1 and 2 didn`t make any kind of a change to their lives.!

It's just so Cameron can strut his stuff on the World stage and try to make out he's the boss of a thriving 1st World economical powerhouse.

Such a pity the sick, the disabled, the elderly and the disadvantaged are roped into paying for it all.

Mick Fisher

10-11-2013 16:40

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35642610)

Such is the price of vanity, though we've seen it before when a certain TB gave away most of our EU rebate to try and buy the EU presidency.:mad:

When it comes to strutting pomposity GB takes some beating. :D

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