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the others will follow. I am fixed till next year will be a shock come the end of the term

http://news.sky.com/story/1152552/en...by-8-2-percent

everyone is about to get poorer

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Apart from the energy suppliers.

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yeah :(

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And colder.

and angrier.

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The rest will follow soon.

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Indeed its like a cartel where each phones each other up to discuss their forthcoming price rises and the agreeded party line.

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They take it in turns to announce these price rises, and the rest follow.

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They always bleat about "Wholesale Prices" rising. Maybe it's the wholesalers who are the true rip-off merchants? Plus the government who tag on a big whack for "green" purposes?

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I knew this would happen as soon as big gob Milliband said he would freeze the charges. It was pretty dam obvious that they would start to increase prices well before hand to cover for his big mouthed threats :mad:

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this was going to happen anyway it happens every year

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And always just before the proper cold weather comes in.

they always say we've been making a loss and been paying out of our own pockets.

and they always say we're ripping you off, but we don't care.

another thing I read about Milliband and the price freeze thing. the conservatives said it's just a con.

the conservatives know what a con is.
you have to wonder if they know because they themselves con us all the time.

Baaaaaa!

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This was going to happen no matter what any politician was going to spout off and it will happen again next year as well.

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I've just done £1150 for the year gas+electric with British Gas. with this + 10% ? it'll be £115 more for the year coming. I could save £150 fixed for the year coming if i switch to EDF. hmm...

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If it looks like one it almost definately is one.

No surprises there.

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Must be to pay for their sponsorship of the new Scottish Hydro lmao.

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The big six energy companies buy wholesale from each other, or from their own wholesale subsidiaries. This makes me very suspicious when I read their claims about how small their profits are per customer. A more cynical person would accuse them of rigging the wholesale price to ensure that the retail companies (that we pay for our energy) are not seen to make a large profit.

The UK's energy prices are not the highest in Europe, but that doesn't mean that price increases by the UK energy cartel are justified.

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Notification of gas and electricity price increase has arrived by post. No mention of percentages, but the big increases have been in the Standing Charges which we pay even if we use no gas or electricity.

I calculate gas is up 8.2% and electricity up 8.9%

They reckon our annual bill will be around £1550

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I thought it was 10% combined rather than each ?

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There are a few discounts on my account (Direct Debit, paperless billing, etc.) and the postcode lottery also applies.

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Thanks but my question was 'I thought it was 10% combined rather than each ?' in response to (in bold)..

?

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Head up Scottish Power have a fixed rate till March 2015 competitive with current running fixed tariff plans.

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I heard 9.2% in one TV report, but, as I replied, that is only an "average" as discounts, etc., can vary the final percentage increase quite a bit.

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Ah the super soaraway Sun. Sigh....

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on combined ? if so then the rough 10% hike stands for duel fuel. they couldnt possibly hike gas and electric as much as you calculated.

British Gas announce average 9.2% price rise
 

http://news.sky.com/story/1155720/en...by-9-2-percent

Why is the government allowing this to happen. The public are being hard pressed as it is from other utility comapnies with increases in prices.

I am with British Gas and this will hit me hard. We have energy within our own garden.

We must reinvest in coal in this country and open up the minefields. This will also create jobs in hard hit area's.

This IMPORTS coal from other countries, so why not produce our own. Many OAP's will be glad of this. And yes some OAPs will have central heating, but at least it will be some comfort to the hard pressed families.

It does not make sense where this government is sending billions of pounds over sea's yet won't help out in this time by telling these companies that this has to stop.

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Our governments lack of forethought dating back a long time has led us to this. All they are ever interested in is what will win the next election. This applies equally with Labour and Conservative

There have been massive advancements in clean energy from coal we have massive resources of coal still available to us but the mines stay closed

We will have nuclear power enough to service us eventually there are plans to build 12 stations iirc but that of course will take time. I personally would rather investment in this was put before the aid bill

I was watching watchdog last night and after the interview with some woman to do with one of the big 6 ( only caught this bit) I am not convinced there will be enough energy to keep the lights on this winter

God you really short sighted Arthur, you blame everything on the current government and allow no blame to be apportioned to Labor, your one sided ideals really get on my nerves.

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and here is the crux. The open market economy created by Thatcher has left us with no real control. These energy companies can virtually charge what they want. She missed the change of making it a mixed market economy and keeping some control so the consumer still gets value for money.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24562930

Smallest increases in the part of the country that is usually warmer in winter, so less heating required. Go figure....

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I said before all this started that it will have a knock on effect with everything.

people will cancel their TV licences, which will lose the BBC money.
people will cancel their Virgin/Sky packages which will lose Virgin and Sky money.
people will buy stolen property which is a crime increase due to demand.
people will buy duty free baccy and alcohol which is excellent.

everyone is out to get what they can out of the people. and they will be treading over each other to get whatever pennies the people have that they can take from them.

sit back and watch.

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What rubbish. Giving Arthur a run for his money here Gary...

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But if there was some sort of real control in place so this obvious price fixing was not allowed then the consumer would not be continually ripped off

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I'm always right.
ask anyone.

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we are all being legally ripped off day in day out

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It was awful. Everything from power to the post office and railways to the docks were on strike and making people suffer. It just made bankrupt and inefficient industries even worse off and drained more money from the taxes paid by the workers.

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No surprise with this announcement by BG and my thoughts go to those who have to choose between keeping warm or feeding themselves.

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I remember riding my motorbike and all of a sudden the street lights, house lights - everything went off. I actually thought there was about to be a nuclear bomb explosion! Horrible days.

May be some of the younger folk could do with carrying out a bit of research on what life was like pre privatisation and some of the older folks (Arthur) need to turn off their selective memory

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To top it all off, our future nuclear power will be in the hands of another country again: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24561325

We need to keep nuclear power nationalised. We saw how the french EDF has helped raise prices and keep the money flowing out of the country, now we are giving them the money to make the plants and China the profits. :(

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Exactly ,it took a basic tax rate of 36% and a top rate of 83% in the mid 70's to keep those industries afloat .I really can't believe that people are suggesting going back to that ,or maybe it is only those that don't work and don't pay tax that are suggesting it

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l know exactly what it was like pre privatisation but can you tell me which privatisation has given us the consumer a better deal and service then we had before and the answer to that is clear for anybody to see nowadays.

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Southern Railway is a vast vast improvement on the same area in BR days. The stations are clean tidy and staffed by polite decent people. Yes there are delays but it is a vast improvement on the BR times and more trains run especially in the evening.

Connex inbetween BR and Southern were pretty dire but then wow!

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I know spelling doesn't matter folks am more than happy with that but do wish it was correct in the titles of the threads.. don't expect it and not moaning just wish it was!

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I don't think that the GPO would have or even been able to invest what BT have .

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Post Office Telephones were awful....

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Yes they were not that good but look what we have now and that is a poor inconsistent postal service and postal rates for stamps and parcels rising through the roof as we posted something the other day and it cost us nearly £10 for a smallish parcel.

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Whilst demand for gas and oil in the developing countries continues to increase, prices will increase as the producers and stock markets play the capitalist game.

No individual government will stop this, all they could do is make stupid comments such as Millibrain did recently that cause damage that anyone with a brain could foresee.

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At least it gets there now

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Sorry Den do not agree. My post is a vast improvement on the 1970s. Prices would not have been far off current levels anyway...

And it was the telephone side of the business that was particularly dire as I was saying. BT are not by any means perfect but their service on most occasions works....more than the nationalised lot managed.

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Ed M is also completely ignoring the power station crisis which the Coalition is at least trying to do via various means such as today's deal with China.

Yes am ducking the nuclear debate as not sure one way or the other but a flat price freeze and no investment will cause more problems for us not less.

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We have had quite a few items that have never arrived in the last few years so whether it is better now is very debatable what with the ever increasing sky high prices they are charging as well.

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now that the company has been privatised i would expect to see some changes as competition forces improvements

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That was due to the government opening up the delivery business to all and of course the other companies went for the most profitable areas leaving Royal mail to continue the loss making ones.

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In an astonishing display of awareness of social media British Gas decided to hold an open Q&A session on twitter on the day they announce huge price rises. :dunce:

The #askBG hashtag is quite entertaining right now.

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In the south east, toward the end, BR (South East Region) were actually pretty good. Then Connex took over, and it all went down hill massively. At one point, apparently according to their own figures, 75% of trains were late or cancelled, and they frequently run short trains in the rush hour.

Then they were essentially fired and replaced with the newly created South Eastern Trains who, in a couple of years, turned around those performance figures and improved the service massively.

They were replaced with South Eastern Railways. A private company that's doing a pretty good job of running the railways, but seems to be going down the run short trains route again.

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Some of them are funny.

Some people are paranoid. they think it's a conspiracy to kill off the old people.
many more will die as a result of the price rises. but it's a bit too much to think that's the idea.

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Just think, if he didn't keep posting this stuff, we wouldn't get to expose it and people might forget just what the last lot got up to. :D

Decades of short-termism and failure to invest, by various governments, has led us to where we are and I for one wouldn't want to go back to that sort of state ownership.

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1. I've not had a TV licence for 25 years, I refuse to subscribe to Paedophile TV.
2. I'm already on the lowest package for TV.
3. I used to by ciggies from abroad up until last week when I packed up. :D:D:D

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Click and collect is cheap as chips.

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so presumably you knew all about the recent abuse scandals 25 yrs ago when you decided to "refuse to subscribe to paedophile tv" in which case why didn't you say something :rolleyes:

and i bet yuou still watch at least 1 bbc channel

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I could not afford a fine or the hassle if ever I was to get a knock otherwise I would not pay either

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That's what all the people say to the TV licence gestapo men on youtube.

"No, you can't come in. I'm not letting a paedophile into my home!!" :D

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Very entertaining! Just saw someone ask "who kills more pensioners, Shipman or BG?". Another asked why 347 million wasn't enough profit for them.

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Oh for gods sake not the tired old "reopen the mines that will sort all our problems" like it did in the mid eighties when their union drove the industry into the ground. Opening old coal mines is not the answer to any of today's problems and most of my wider family worked in the nottinghamshire mines and all of them are now dead as well from illnesses derived from that industry. We need to look forward for our answers not to some rose tinted bygone time and that's one of the problems in the UK the nostalgia factor can be crippling.

Arthur i recently agreed loosely with one of your points you can when you try make a semi decent argument but these rants are not it. Your complete inability to recognise that it isn't only this government that has royally screwed us is annoying putting it politely sometimes and whilst this government does have things to answer for you raise none of them.

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I actually agree with Arthur... opening up Minefields and getting the unemployed to work in them will indeed reduce the number of unemployed.

My hat is off to you Arthur,a very cunning plan.THAT'll sort 'em out!! ;)

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Soon it'll be cheaper to keep warm by burning £5 notes.

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Not sure how it works exactly but some energy suppliers have a scheme for those on low income, disabled or over 75. Something like a rebate at the end of a year of paying or something like that. Not really useful for those that can't afford it in the first place but may help some towards the year after if it is a debit on the account. They don't seem to advertise it or make it easy to find for obvious reasons and I doubt those who can't afford fuel will be paying for internet so they can find it on their websites.

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Where's that?

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I watch it yes but I'm dammed if I'm paying for it.

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Don't those on income support get the winter fuel allowance?

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Only pensioners get the winter fuel allowance.

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I'm with British Gas on duel fuel.
I'm paying £92 month.
Switching to Npower fixed Nov 14, it will be £81 month.

so if British Gas put it up 10% it'll be around £100 month.
so I can save around £20 month by switching.

trying to get a quote on BG's site, and it's impossible to get any figures. they're just quoting me the £81 I'm supposedly paying already to Npower.
they won't tell me how much they're charging me.

They've finally give in and told me.
it's between £97 - £102 month.
that's fixed Nov 14 and March 2016

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"£X per month calculations are often far from the truth. You need to find the cost per kwh (and standing charge per day if the tariff works like that). Then you have to figure out what the "discounts" actually mean (£x for paperless billing might actually mean £x off at the end of a full year). And of course, make sure the figures include VAT! Then make sure you take account of any account closure fees.

The "simpler" tariffs are far from that IMHO, all smoke and mirrors... and worse.

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Income Support can trigger Cold Weather payments IF the temperature stays below 0c for 7 days...6 days doesn't cut it...

https://www.gov.uk/cold-weather-payment/eligibility

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Not sure how all that stuff works tbh, although I think it is different to those payments.

Found the page on the BG site, it's a government scheme run by the energy suppliers....looks better than I originally thought: http://www.britishgas.co.uk/products...-discount.html

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Its called Employment Support Allowance instead of Income support now Taf and yes you are right about that it has to be for 7 consecutive days.

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Nationalise it back to how it was!! what folly to have to 'shop around' for electricity and gas - its the same **** that comes out of the wire and pipes so shut the f*ck up about tarriffs

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Isn't it like petrol where it cleans your engine whilst you drive?

I'd say my electric was nice and sharp at the moment. but I expect that to change when Npower send it to my house.

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What's the difference, the light and heating will still be going out except in this case it'll be because people can't afford it rather than strikes and why was the only solution to sell them of?

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How, they.aren't investing in the case of water companies, these companies aren't competing to give customers a better deal they behave like a cartel.

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Really, I expect to see a cut in services, prices rising and job cuts

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Iirc that's been scrapped by most if not all companies

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It's ok, I've checked it all.
kwh, VAT, standing charge, and cancellation fees.
I just want to be one of the many that tell BG to stick their energy up their bum.

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I've seen quite a few on youtube. seems the norm now since we found out that the BBC were employing pedo's that those who film them when they come round are scared that they're pedo's too.

just search TV licence goons or whatever on youtube.

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I actually had an old lady refuse to consider moving from BG as "they make nice gas and electricity, and I don't want rubbish stuff".

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you just can not help some people lol

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I've just had the garden landscaped and I don't want them digging it up to put their pipes and wires in.Other wise I would switch. :D

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I'd love it if they were ALL only allowed to change prices on one specific date... a lot of squeaky bums in boardrooms as they try to set their prices so as not to be the most expensive and therefore lose customers en masse.

"Taking it in turns" to announce price changes sets the goalposts for their rivals to beat or equal.

And surely, if there was only one no-profit "body" that bought gas/electricity wholesale for the UK market, it would have more clout in keeping wholesale prices down?

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Ha ha I didn't know that was on You Tube. Seems like many people are in the same mind as me when it comes to TV licences. :D

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The police ones are quite good too. but keep away from the 'Law and Statute' ones.
they do your nut in :)

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Haven't had the heating on this year yet because I find a dressing gown keeps me warm and with these price rises going up might have to invest in a onesie or a thick wearable blanket.

It's silly, Most of my gas bills are the standing charges these days!

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Yeah yeah, people will use any excuse for purchasing a onesie.... :D

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What a helmet Cameron is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...g-jumpers.html


http://nationalcollective.com/2013/1...ter-solutions/


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In years to come we will look back and see just how much of a toff and a prat Dave really was.

so will he.

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You can see that now, we won't have to look back.

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True.

what gets on my nerves is how we have to keep asking what Dave suggests we do. as if we're all stupid and walking around trying to be cool like Dave in just our rolled up sleeves shirt. we need to be told to wear a jumper.

I'd like to buy a jumper. Dave suggests I wear a jumper.

how does he know we're not wearing a bloody jumper already?

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You just couldn't make it up could you? Mind you did we expect anything else from a private educated Toff?

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People do make things up.:rolleyes:
What about those in charge of those countries with even HIGHER gas and electricity prices. Eg Angela Merkel & François Hollande are toffs?:confused:
Link

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But we are not talking about what happens abroad but about the many working people and people in poverty struggling this winter and having to decide whether to keep themselves warm or feed themselves and in 2013 that's nothing to be proud of as a country.

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Of course if the "green subsidy" was put through general taxation(if we must have it) instead of tagged onto the bills things would be easier ,i believe that was the bright idea of a certain Mr Millibrain who had a whole dept created for him by Brown and now in a move of unprecedented idiocy he announced that he would cap profits by energy companies if he got into power ,what the hell did he think would happen when he announced this ,Millibrain needs taking out of circulation before he causes any more damage

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I'm not bothered about Holland I'm bothered about the UK, also they have a better standard of living in Holland.

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François Hollande is the president of France not a country :rolleyes:

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Well, he's not bothered about France either, too :)

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I didn't even click on the link, I seen Holland and that was enough for me.

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Ssshhhhhh you can't say that on hear, you'll have the Tory lot hitting the Sherry.

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Maybe you should start clicking on some of the links ,if you did you would know that undoing 13yrs of labour ineptitude, such as the example i gave a few posts ago ,is no easy task

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What have we got coming?? 15 years of Tory ineptitude but that's just the norm for the Tories isn't it? We wouldn't be in this mess if the Tories hadn't sold the energy companies off.

Just remember the Tories started the mess back in the late 80's / early 90's.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/10/35.jpg

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Indeed they did ,and how many times does the power go off now ?