Broadband domain name change
 

For those that haven't seen this

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ge/m-p/2020628

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Why virginm.net and not virginmedia.net like the rest of the network?

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Sorry I don't know what this means but as I (apparently) use opendns and a VPN will this matter to me? (so I am told I do anyway)

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It should make no difference if you just use a vPN on your computer to view/download the internet. OpenDNS is not an issue either

If you however run a VPN server on your home network so you can connect to it while you are out, it could affect you if you set the remote client to connect to something like customer53453-cpc3-blah-blah.virginmedia.net. If you had just set the IP address instead it will be ok.

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Thanks for the reply.

No I don't do that. I have used logmein in the past which I assume would jsut work anyway without a vpn.

I just use it because I am always paranoid people can see what I am going and whilst I am not doing anything illegal I just want that extra 2 layers of security that my VPN gives me

On my phone I have the VPN set up anyway so I can use it when I am using my mobile connection or public wifi

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This is one of those changes that will affect very, very few people, if any really. As Qtx said, if you had something pointing at customer53453-cpc3-blah-blah.virginmedia.net then you'd be better off just pointing to the IP address or using a dynamic DNS client or something anyway.

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But if it does effect you, the short notice is a bit of a pain in the arse.

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Maybe they will tidy up some of the other DNS names, like the internal CDN nodes that resolve to old NTL dialup hostnames in Edinburgh.

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Yuck.

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Will our IP address change or remain the same?

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Hopefully they'll finally get rid of the silly crap like host-94-175-249-241.not-set-yet.virginmedia.net

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Well I don't know about anyone else's, but mine has changed and my IP is still the same:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/10/11.png

Now the Cableforum guys need to fix it!

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lol, nice attempt to blur out 82.5.27.121 (not sure about the 5)

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Why did you blur out the IP address but not the hostname? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Close! Not quite though =P

Because to be honest, I'm not that bothered if someone figures it out. The worst that could happen is I'll get DDoS'd, in which case I'll just change IP's. What do I lose, other than 5mins of my time and my current TBB graphs.

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If you 'aren't that bothered' why did you even bother blurring the IP address out? :D It's like saying 'I'm not that bothered if anyone robs my house, but I'll lock exactly one of the doors anyway'

Just tickled me, 'tis all.

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Not necessarily, maybe some Romanian dude who likes gameasaurs will find a hole in IIS 7.5 or wordpress 3.6 after giving up looking at your pptp vpn port. Then again, maybe that kind of stuff is mythical nonsense :D

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Mostly so people wouldn't give me grief over it haha. Should have blurred it really but too late now.

Haha, that's just a little pet project of mine and a few friends that I really don't have enough time for.

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Think we all have a few of those :p: Need some Deep Thought to get them going again.

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Oh you meanie! If you hack my server, at least have the good grace to not delete all the porn off of it, yeah?

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:LOL: :angel:

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... Qtx hacker?

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Penetration tester sounds much better to the ladies...

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Ermm... :-P

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yeah, Kush's rubbish photoshop skills :D

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Swansea has been done.....

cpc12-cwma8-2-0-cust***.*-*.cable.virginm.net)

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Me thinks the 'Connection Information' tool at the top of the forum needs an update ;)

Re: Broadband domain name change
 

mine has changed as well now:

cpc24-linc11-2-0-custxxx.xx-x.cable.virginm.net

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Not for me, I'm still on host-94-175-249-245.not-set-yet.virginmedia.net

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Uddingston has been done too

cpc17-uddi22-2-0-cust***.*-*.cable.virginm.net

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Erm, not sure if that's the right bit.

The whole point of this is that domain resolution was showing up as ending in virginmedia.com - if it's showing up as virginmedia.net, then that must be somewhere else in the network

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Well wherever it is on "the network" it's the IP this customer line has been allocated and it's the IP I am using right now, as confirmed by traceroutes, whatismyip.com, and speedtest.net

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62.253.3.136 (VM Xbox Live CDN) resolves to m8-mp6.cvx3-c.edi.dial.ntli.net - expecting the DNS names to make any sense at all is probably a tad optimistic.

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Indeed, I've also seen what should be cable modem RDNS' as well as the not-yet-set.virginmedia.net on random core network routers in the middle of traceroute too. Probably just re-used or re-purposed I ranges somebody was too lazy to update the DNS for.

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Changed from *-virginmedia.com to *.virginm.net this evening. Unexpectedly so. Now locked out of my website as the ftp was tied to my virginmedia.com rDNS. God knows why it was tied to the hostname not the IP (which hasn't changed).

Its gonna be morning till I can get technical support to make relevant changes. Thanks virgin, you could given me some notice, or done it during the day when I had a chance of getting hold of technical support at my host...

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http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/2020628

A weeks notice not good enough?

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Strangely enough not everybody logs in on the VM forum on a regular basis or even at all.

Now I don't care about this change but do VM know that? I've received no letter or email telling me about it. Mine is currently unchanged so perhaps they will let me know before it does. They certainly send me plenty of junk mail suggesting I may like to become a customer.

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99.9% of customers won't care about this change, does Virgin really need to notify them all? It's well known that it's a dynamic service, you shouldn't be tying anything to your IP or host name as it can change.

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No need imo but commenting that there had been a weeks notice when it only appeared as a post on the forum is a pretty dumb comment (again imo).

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I have to agree with Kush on this one. I would love to see the <deleted> in India try and deal with the flood of calls which would occur as a result of a letter being sent to everyone customer stating that:

"Starting on Wednesday we're changing the naming convention we use in our network to help differentiate between the domain which hosts the IP address ranges allocated to our customers and the domain which hosts our websites.

This will likely only impact those of you who have customised network server configurations which rely on this DNS name, such as remote server access control lists, as you will need to update your settings. If you don't know what this means, then it's unlikely you will see any impact.

In technical terms, the IP addresses will no longer fall within the virginmedia.com DNS domain, but will soon resolve to the virginm.net domain. This change will be rolled out across our network between the 16th and 25th of October."

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Cable Forum's connection detector thingy like many people, will not have known about this change. Notification via a single forum posting, is not really notification. Ultimately another good example of communication from a company specialising in communication.

I'm quite sure there are a few IT bods out there scratching their head wondering why something isn't working anymore, when it had done so well for years. I rate as low the chances of them stumbling on VM's forum post, where they are often at pains to indicate they don't support business services, when businesses are quite likely to be the ones running stuff tied to fixed IP's and domains.

We will look at "fixing" the site's connection tool in due course, but it won't be a priority.

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Honest question then. How would you have done it?

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I've have done it the epically overkill way by pulling logs of everyone who had actually accessed the RDNS in the last 30 days and contacting them specifically.

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Do you know how it actually works because I am confused why/how it is broken. I would have assumed that it looks at what your ip is and sees whether it is in a block of ip addresses owned by VM. As our ip addreses have stayed the same it should still see it as a VM address. Or does it just look at the host info cpc24-linc11-2-0-custxxx.xx-x.cable.virginmedia.com and say "oh yeah, it ends in .virginmedia.com therefore it is a VM address?



As business broadband is seperate from residential I defo think an email or letter should have gone out to all business accounts and then they could have decided whether it would affect them or not. Making a post on a forum for residential customers which VM admit to it not affecting so much is a poor attempt at comunication. It is like Tesco's telling you that you can't pay for your shopping by card anymore and making the announcement on a chat forum on their website; it isn't the most informative method.

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That's pretty obviously what it does, considering that's basically the entire point of the tool

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Yeah, to be honest I agree with you as well here. A single forum post doesn't really count as much notice in my opinion, but I don't think Virgin was obligated to give any notice at all.

All that stuff about logging RDNS and such, I'm not really sure I want Virgin logging anything unless they explicitly have to but that's just me.

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Well as it is they already log tons of stuff they don't have to, your usage and traffic for STM purposes for one, sending you letters complaining they don't like the way you're using your "unlimited" connection being another, but that's another thread entirely.

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I have no idea what notification process VM Business are doing for their connections, but as far as I'm aware, the post Mark put up was aimed at residential customers.

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Updated the detector for virginm.net

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Yup, works:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/10/2.png

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Sweet, and it still works on the old ones:

Connection Information You appear to be on a Virgin Media Connection IP address 94.175.249.245 Host host-94-175-249-245.not-set-yet.virginmedia.net

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I actually removed some really old definitions from the list (ntl & blueyonder).

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Ah. Yeah those aren't just old they're ancient :-P been a while since I've seen any of those

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Only about 4 or 5 years since I seen one of those, which isn't that long in VM fix times =P

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Hehehe

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why has he blurred it out anyway?

just do this :)

C:\windows\system32>nslookup cpc17-warr6-2-0-cust120.1-1.cable.virginm.net.
Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: cpc17-warr6-2-0-cust120.1-1.cable.virginm.net
Address: 82.8.27.121

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brilliant :)

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Can we all stop hacking Kushan, please?

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Requesting my post be deleted!

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DDOS!!!