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I was wondering is it the worst around, as it always seems to be out of date. Does anyone know when Virgin updates it?

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It only updates once a day in general, although you can force it to update at any time.

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Is it updated in the early hours of the morning, and how do you force it to update?

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It's in the network settings I think. Can't remember the exact sequence of menus though.

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Thanks. Will have to look into it, as the EPG can be a pain most of the time.

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To force an update:

Home - Help & Settings - Settings - Network - Connect to the Virgin Media Service now

(this connection will be performed in the background so you can leave the screen and do anything else you want to do).

TiVo only seems to update the EPG once daily in the early hours (my TiVo did it at 02:27) it has to be remembered that schedule changes are not dynamic on Virgin. So problems caused by things like overrunning sporting events or breaking news will not show on the TiVo EPG and schedule / channel changes can sometimes take days to appear.

The EPG errors have vastly improved since the early days of adoption however as I said, we do not have a Dynamic EPG and enabling TiVo to make this network connection does not always guarantee results.

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Thanks for the info mate. Will the Tivo ever get a Dynamic EPG?

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Sadly I don't think a Dynamic EPG is on Virgin's road map, a major factor in this being TiVo Inc US has never had one and also seem to have no intention to provide one. There were threads on the Virgin Help & Support Forum back in 2012 but they quickly died after a whopping 4 posts. It just looks like I'd be convicted if I told you to "hold your breath, it's coming soon".

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I noticed them. People were asking for it back in 2011 and almost three years on, and nothing. I think it should be something they look into as it is a great thing on Sky, but I guess the fact Tivo is an American product could be the stopping point.

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The EPG must update a few times a day, as I have noticed changes to certain channels throughout the day.

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that the thing it needed but virgin will not do it

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Sorry really do not understand the last post.... :-(

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Sometimes we push through changes manually when there is a high-profile programme update.

The TiVo software that is currently in trials does four updates a day, and we're looking at ways to improve it further.

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That's great to hear,sky epg is constantly updated and no charge.i love my TiVo but we pay £5 and it as constant problems,only last night was a example I missed end of smack down on my TiVo because of starting late but sky epg picked up straight away and recorded in full

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Thanks for the update mate. Good news, but Sky is the example to follow. I hope TiVo and VM decide to make radical changes soon.

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Time to wait patiently and get the one that is right when it is ready methinks...

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That's good news but I don't think it is possible to have a truly dynamic EPG on TiVo because of the function it has.

TiVo has to reschedule all series links when an EPG change occurs. This can potentially lead to a programme not being scheduled because there is no suitable repeat if, for example, a program over-runs by even a few minutes.

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Any PVR that can reschedule recordings can suddenly find it hasn't got enough tuners to record everything. That can happen on TiVo now. Having real-time updates wouldn't really make the problem any worse.

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Not really true.

Say I have a single program scheduled for 8pm and three scheduled for 9pm.

Suddenly the 8pm program is going to overrun and the dynamic EPG kicks in. Which of the three 9pm programmes gets dumped? The lowest priority one, which may or may not have a repeat.

If the lowest priority programme doesn't have a repeat, having a dynamic EPG directly results in a programme never recording.

I'd rather have the current situation where my 8pm program is truncated but at least I get my three programmes at 9pm.

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If we get a Dynamic EPG, we need the option to turn it off... which I will do... exactly for the potential problems outlined above. Sky have the option to turn off the Dynamic EPG.

I find the current EPG works fine for me. I know the odd show that may over run so just add a bit of end padding to those shows.

My worry is that VM will force a dynamic EPG on to us without the option to turn it off. I suspect that most people are happy with the current EPG. A DEPG sounds good and it has it's advantages, but maybe people haven't considered the negative aspects that could lead to missed recordings? But if we have the option to turn it off, then everyone can be happy.

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I completely agree. A dynamic EPG, for me, would cause more problems than it solves.

Of course, if we had 6 tuners and TiVo had the ability to re-schedule over multiple channels, including +1 channels, ........

Personally, I'd be happy to get the extra core function of TiVo, currently only available to those on the NetFlix trial.

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I agree completely, passingbat. I would also turn it off if I had that option, although as Robbo says, if we had 6 tuners, I might have to re-think that!