EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...igarettes.html

This is a joke.

I don't even smoke but I can see this country's freedom being stripped away bit by bit. They also plan on imposing restrictions on Electronic cig's.
How? Simple, they'll ban anything cheap, start taxing the crap out of it and stop you buying quality stuff from online websites that's 100% cheaper than some shopping centre stall charging over the top.

The EU this and that, bollocks to the EU.

Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 

I'd suggest having a cigarette to clam down but you don't smoke... :D ;)


Agree totally about the EU BTW!

Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 

I don't necessarily agree you about the EU because while they generally are a pain in the ass, there have been several occasions (particularly over the last 20 years) where they have stepped in and stopped our own government doing things that are not necessarily good for us (for instance, the UK government was apparently happy to sit by and do nothing while Phorm, google etc were busy setting up equipment to monitor us until the EU intervened and threatened legal action).

However, the restrictions on Electronic cigs being discussed are designed to restrict advertising them to kids. Are you saying you want kids to be able to see the adverts? Bear in mind that smoking electronic cigs, while safer than smoking tobacco cigs is still not as safe as smoking nothing at all.

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This is one of the major flaws of the EU . Their overwhelming need to control everything that we do. Be it personal choice with smoking, drinking, drugs, movement across borders etc. Even the reclassification of e-cigs to a medicine so that they can control and tax that too.
Feck the EU and all their bigoted representatives.

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After 2 world wars Germany rules Europe with politics anyone else see the irony

Oh and with help from the garlic eating surrender monkeys too

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It is not simply a matter of whether a decision is right or wrong, it is about who has the right to make such decisions in a democratic and accountable system. At least within UK, Scotland, Wales, and NI are part of the same political arena, no matter how much they grumble about England. With the EU, do we know, or are a part of the political arena of the likes of France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Romania etc.

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As a non smoker I think it's a horrible life destroying habit and should be made illegal. However, that's my opinion.

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Kids will smoke if they want regardless of how many different laws are brought in. There's enough counterfeit cig's rolling around this country that are cheaper than your standard 10 pack in the shop. I started in School and I bet a tonne of other people did too. So basically they hit the honest people and the kids continue to get their cig's from their local smoke house.

So really, let's ban School... Couldn't get any stupider right?

Internet Censorship flowing down our lines, EU passing whatever laws they fancy. MP's claiming petrol expenses for 100 yard journey's. There's no end to this madness.

This latest one is similar to the Opt in for adult content scheme, the rest of the country has to suffer because apparently Parents can't be trusted to tell their kids right from wrong. If it isn't our home government up to some crackpot scheme it's Rosie O'Donnel's wife over in Deutschland. That wasn't a hit at tories either before the loyal backing comes charging, I don't vote, I don't see the point, they're all the same villain with a different mask.

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They wanted to make them classed as a medicine and then tax them to hell and back.

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:clap:

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IIRC it's about eliminating variability in products and establishing standards so people have some of idea of what they are getting.

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However the Goverment and the EU dont want to dent the tax they get which E cigs are denting big time
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24439474

I don't smoke but i will defend an adults right to chose. Something the EU does not like or want.

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I can half understand that but at the same time, if people are too lazy to work it out for themselves then too bad. E-cig's are easy to use, easy to understand and easy to manufacture the liquid to the point you can do it yourself. If you were to buy the liquid off most internet sites (cheaper than any high street store) the seller would give you an exact list of the ingredients used. It's so simple because there's virtually nothing in it.

Yep, the sole purpose of my outbursts.

We all know what's coming next anyway. Toilet Seatbelts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnXLU326IdA

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When eCigs first appeared around here, it was in the Tesco Pharmacy, so I thought they must have a decent level of quality and safety.

But now I see most of them sold from Asian cheapo shops, and that makes me wonder how safe those are, if at all. So regulation and checks on quality are good in my mind, though that will probably cause a HUGE hike in price.

Pall Mall have just launched cigarettes which have a capsule in the filter: smoke as normal, or pop the capsule and get a "subtle (menthol) flavour". I wonder if this is to get around this new EU edict?

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Lambert fresh burst have been around a while. same thing.

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Money makes the world go round.
it's all about money.
people up there line their pockets with money.
we're all sheep.
we are under their control.
we can only surrender.

They want to ban pkts of 10. you can only buy pkts 20.
encouraging light smokers to increase their useage by smoking 20 instead of 10

they want to ban rolling tobacco being sold at 12.5g. and the minimum to be 20g.
which will no doubt be the price of the old 25g plus 47p.

all about maximum profit and sales. nothing else.

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Wrong

All about the tax you pay on them. That's why they want to tax E cigs

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Ok. tax.

but from what I've read it reads that they won't be classing them as medicine anymore?

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I personally think that the whole country will be divided soon anyway.
rich v poor.

the poor will just buy on the black market (which will expand massively)
and the rich will be the mugs that pay the tax on the government stuff.

you could say that this is what they've foreseen happening anyway.

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What on Earth would all the Eurocrats do to earn a crust if they didn't have everyone's affairs to meddle with?

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They won't be able to tax them now after the EU ruling on them on Tuesday.

Mcaven proved to be worthy of nothing and a mouthpiece for the Pharma Companies and Tobacco Companies.

There's thousands of people giving up the weed on a weekly basis for the more healthy Vaping option.

The Government are losing out on revenue from the sale of Tobacco.

I noticed that she requested for further negotiations which, proves to me that she's being paid by the big Pharma and Tobacco Companies.

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E cigs are far safer than real fags and yet the Government and the EU want to tax them out of existence. I never understand the idiots in power whoever they may be :shocked:

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Yup, the Government and the tobacco companies must be losing a fortune with people switching to the Vapor options.

There was something on the news this morning about the government losing billions of pounds a year to illegal tobacco imports, there's no call for tobacco imports anymore vaping is the way to go.

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Nanny state

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The government's tax take on tobacco is now over 81p in the £.

Are eCigs VAT'ed?

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Yes to the VAT.

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No because there's no tobacco in them.

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Anyone with common sense buys them online from the UK or abroad. Same product for a lower cost. They would be even more popular if high street shops and the likes of E-lites buggered off.

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A mate of mine sells them from his shop round here, I'm in the process of converting over from the smelly ciggies onto Vaping.

A set up has cost me just under £45.00, I'll have my money back within 2 weeks if I keep off the ciggies.

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That link was before the EU voted against making them a medicinal product.

The EU has seen sense for once, the Government are running scared because they're going to lose billions in revenue.

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You can get them much cheaper but it doesn't matter because you're still better off, once you're into the vaping game and know the ins and outs you'll see there's a different side to it. I know a site that's selling 100ml for £18 which is very good and it's not half bad stuff either.

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Cheers for the PM, that site looks the poodles. :tu:

I've got this one,


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/10/47.jpg

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Is the battery big enough for ya?

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My car battery won't go flat. :D

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good move by the EU.

Gradually impose a ban, next step banning them all together!