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Damien 30-09-2013 18:03
Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
I drive a Peugeot 206.

The other day the Clutch bearing had gone and I needed to get it repaired alongside a disc or something that also went alongside the bearing. Car was repaired.

However I was driving it home and the clutch now has no resistance at all. It will go right to the floor with no force as I push down. This makes it quite hard to find the biting point compared to it's previous feel where I could discern the point from the amount of resistance in combination with the feel of the engine. Now I just have the latter.

Is this normal?

Uncle Peter 30-09-2013 18:08
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
I think the Pug 206 clutch is a hydraulic system. There could be air in the system perhaps due to a failing seal in the master/slave cylinder.

martyh 30-09-2013 18:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35626922)
I think the Pug 206 clutch is a hydraulic system. There could be air in the system perhaps due to a failing seal in the master/slave cylinder.
agreed ,we had exactly the same issue in a truck that just had a new master cylinder fitted .

@ Damien keep pumping the peddle and see if it gets some resistance ,pumping the peddle can release air that is trapped .

Damien 30-09-2013 18:23
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35626924)
agreed ,we had exactly the same issue in a truck that just had a new master cylinder fitted .

@ Damien keep pumping the peddle and see if it gets some resistance ,pumping the peddle can release air that is trapped .
Cheers. I'll do that.

It does change gear but the lack of resistance freaks me out. Would this be a sign it's about to break down do you think?

martyh 30-09-2013 18:28
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35626928)
Cheers. I'll do that.

It does change gear but the lack of resistance freaks me out. Would this be a sign it's about to break down do you think?
I'm assuming the "new disc" was the actual clutch plate ,and you say the thrust bearing was also changed so ,no not break down just air in the system ,either left in from the clutch change or entering the system as Uncle Peter has said

georgepomone 30-09-2013 18:45
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Hi,
just looked in the book. All right hand drive diesels have hydraulic clutch. The rest are cable operated. From what you are saying is wrong it could be the return spring is broken or has come off. If it is hydraulic remember the clutch is on the left as they are conversions from left hand drive. Just thoughts in my empty head.

Damien 30-09-2013 18:53
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35626931)
I'm assuming the "new disc" was the actual clutch plate ,and you say the thrust bearing was also changed so ,no not break down just air in the system ,either left in from the clutch change or entering the system as Uncle Peter has said
OK. So I did the pump thing and started to feel some resistance again. Took it on a test drive and there is a bit of an improvement. However it occasionally reverted back to lack of resistance, although perhaps but as bad as before, and I have to pump it again. Could it take a while to leave the system?

martyh 30-09-2013 19:00
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35626942)
OK. So I did the pump thing and started to feel some resistance again. Took it on a test drive and there is a bit of an improvement. However it occasionally reverted back to lack of resistance, although perhaps but as bad as before, and I have to pump it again. Could it take a while to leave the system?
Yes it could take a while to completely purge the system ,what i did with our truck was pump about 30 times ,got full resistance but lost the resistance a while later pumped again and got it back ,all in all it took a full day of repeated pumping and regular use to remove all the air ,when the resistance is stable don't forget to check the clutch fluid reservoir as the more air you remove the lower the level goes

Damien 30-09-2013 19:06
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35626945)
Yes it could take a while to completely purge the system ,what i did with our truck was pump about 30 times ,got full resistance but lost the resistance a while later pumped again and got it back ,all in all it took a full day of repeated pumping and regular use to remove all the air ,when the resistance is stable don't forget to check the clutch fluid reservoir as the more air you remove the lower the level goes
Excellent. It sounds like it could be that then! Cheers! :D

martyh 30-09-2013 19:09
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35626946)
Excellent. It sounds like it could be that then! Cheers! :D
no probs hope i helped :tu:

SimpleSimon 30-09-2013 19:12
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35626921)
I drive a Peugeot 206.

The other day the Clutch bearing had gone and I needed to get it repaired alongside a disc or something that also went alongside the bearing. Car was repaired.

However I was driving it home and the clutch now has no resistance at all. It will go right to the floor with no force as I push down. This makes it quite hard to find the biting point compared to it's previous feel where I could discern the point from the amount of resistance in combination with the feel of the engine. Now I just have the latter.

Is this normal?
Why don't you just take it back to where it was repaired and get them to sort it?

Gary L 30-09-2013 19:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35626945)
Yes it could take a while to completely purge the system ,what i did with our truck was pump about 30 times ,got full resistance but lost the resistance a while later pumped again and got it back ,all in all it took a full day of repeated pumping and regular use to remove all the air ,when the resistance is stable don't forget to check the clutch fluid reservoir as the more air you remove the lower the level goes
Where's all this air going then?

Damien 30-09-2013 20:02
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Originally Posted by SimpleSimon (Post 35626950)
Why don't you just take it back to where it was repaired and get them to sort it?
Cos I need it tomorrow to get to Gatwick. :shocked:

raging bull 30-09-2013 20:03
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
Could it be the air being drawn into master cylinder, leaking seal?
(I am not a motor mechanic, just an interested viewer!)

Osem 30-09-2013 20:04
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35626945)
Yes it could take a while to completely purge the system ,what i did with our truck was pump about 30 times ,got full resistance but lost the resistance a while later pumped again and got it back ,all in all it took a full day of repeated pumping and regular use to remove all the air ,when the resistance is stable don't forget to check the clutch fluid reservoir as the more air you remove the lower the level goes
Can't remember the last time I had a day of repeated pumping... :D

raging bull 30-09-2013 20:05
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
Likewise, not since late 1960's when I had a mini.

martyh 30-09-2013 20:11
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35626956)
Where's all this air going then?
the air space at the top of the reservoir,that's why it is important to check the level of the oil after bleeding

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35626969)
Can't remember the last time I had a day of repeated pumping... :D
hard on the knees it is ......especially when pumping in a truck :D

Osem 30-09-2013 20:12
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35626971)
the air space at the top of the reservoir,that's why it is important to check the level of the oil after bleeding

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hard on the knees it is ......especially when pumping in a truck :D
Thought that's why you guys carry a mattress... :D

martyh 30-09-2013 20:41
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35626974)
Thought that's why you guys carry a mattress... :D
you have a bad impression of us truckers ,we carry mattresses to bounce on playfully when waiting to unload ,we are civilised you know :rolleyes::)

Osem 30-09-2013 20:57
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35626987)
you have a bad impression of us truckers ,we carry mattresses to bounce on playfully when waiting to unload ,we are civilised you know :rolleyes::)
'Unload'??? :D

martyh 30-09-2013 21:07
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35626994)
'Unload'??? :D
i've just read that back to myself, i should have been a script writer for the carry films :D

Damien 01-10-2013 18:39
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
Well it got to Gatwick fine. Cheers martyh et al. Pedal seems better now too.

martyh 01-10-2013 18:42
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35627327)
Well it got to Gatwick fine. Cheers martyh et al. Pedal seems better now too.
glad to hear :tu:

Damien 01-10-2013 19:20
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Incidentally whilst driving on the M25 I saw a police car parked on the bank, not the hard shoulder but the bank, in the pitch black, at 6am in the morning. Seemed a bit early, and inefficient, to do a speed trap there. I thought they did them on bridges and had a car near the exits to pull people over. Although I guess it's easier for them to chase if they're next to the road. Just never seen it before. Unless they weren't speed checking but can't think that else they would be doing.

martyh 01-10-2013 19:29
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35627367)
Incidentally whilst driving on the M25 I saw a police car parked on the bank, not the hard shoulder but the bank, in the pitch black, at 6am in the morning. Seemed a bit early, and inefficient, to do a speed trap there. I thought they did them on bridges and had a car near the exits to pull people over. Although I guess it's easier for them to chase if they're next to the road. Just never seen it before. Unless they weren't speed checking but can't think that else they would be doing.
was it close any service area ? if so he may well have been waiting for a suspect truck ,he would escort them into a service area or other suitable layby just off the motorway for VOSA to go to town on .
Since VOSA became self funding they now work 24-7 instead of 9-5 .I watched a Transit Luton get parked up for being overweight on saturday about 7am as i was sitting in Trowel services on the M1

Damien 01-10-2013 19:35
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35627376)
was it close any service area ? if so he may well have been waiting for a suspect truck ,he would escort them into a service area or other suitable layby just off the motorway for VOSA to go to town on .
Since VOSA became self funding they now work 24-7 instead of 9-5 .I watched a Transit Luton get parked up for being overweight on saturday about 7am as i was sitting in Trowel services on the M1
Not massively far from the clacket lane services....

martyh 01-10-2013 19:44
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35627387)
Not massively far from the clacket lane services....
May well have been the reason then ,1-2 miles is usually the limit .Of course he could just have been enjoying a bit of shut eye before shift change ;)

Derek 01-10-2013 22:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35627367)
Incidentally whilst driving on the M25 I saw a police car parked on the bank, not the hard shoulder but the bank, in the pitch black, at 6am in the morning. Seemed a bit early, and inefficient, to do a speed trap there. I thought they did them on bridges and had a car near the exits to pull people over. Although I guess it's easier for them to chase if they're next to the road. Just never seen it before. Unless they weren't speed checking but can't think that else they would be doing.
I'd guess it might be an ANPR car.

Osem 02-10-2013 06:47
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
According to local radio I heard VOSA were doing safety checks in the area following a tip-off of a guy driving a car with a highly suspect clutch...

richard s 02-10-2013 08:57
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Official... Clacket Lane to be renamed Crashit Lane.

progers 03-10-2013 07:16
Re: Clutch pedal on car has no resistance
 
If it has air in the system, pumping won't remove it all, it needs bleeding


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