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Can I use the 2 way splitter to install 2 different accounts in different hubs?

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Technically - yes. Contractually - unlikely though I don't know your circumstances.

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how are you going to set them up dude because unless there are "special circumstances" I was under the impression that you could only have one account per household. If you could use a splitter and have two modems at the same premises it would be awesome because they you could get a router with dual wan ports and load balance across the two connections.

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It's certainly a lot easier now to get two accounts than it used to be, but there are certain criteria and the final decision lies with VM.

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You can plug in a modem from a different account though, from a different house.

EDIT: I did once see a customer with two modems on their account. Just the once. Confused the hell out of me, especially as the customer forgot to mention it and was only reporting a fault with one. Their exact words were "I can get on just fine downstairs, but upstairs doesn't work". You'd have thought that was a router or something and even seeing two modems on the account wasn't that unusual (sometimes they got left over during a swap or whatever) but it took me a good few mins to figure out he WASN'T using a router but in actual fact had two completely separate modems.

Then when I went through to second line, they didn't believe me until they seen the account themselves and their answer was still "No, this shouldn't have happened, send them to customer services to get it fixed".

"Fixed".

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Two modems on a single account will cause issues, as it's not standard policy (and I pretty sure it never has been), so some systems won't expect it.

Two accounts at an address each with a single modem attached is purely down to having the records available on the system to process it.

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I had lodgers in a house I own and they have 2 accounts. One was put in about 6 months after the other - 3 months down the line I was told the wayleave agreement the second account holder signed was illegal and both accounts were cut off.

This was in 2010 I think.

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The checks are much stricter now to stop issues occuring

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I use two hubs on the same splitter, no issues

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so we can get 240 if we bond?

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If you had a device that was capable, I use 2.4ghz in livingroom and 5ghz on sh2 in bedroom

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ok. so i might ask about this. be happy to pay £75 for that if it is possible.

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that is what I was thinking. What is the criteria for having 2 accounts Ben? Surely VM would like to have double the money coming in given the competition these days so would it be possible for me to have 2 x 120mbit connections coming into my house?

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I use something else in the bedroom.;)

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If it is I'd go for this like a shot for as long as I could do it - who would need fttc!

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OH matron!

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I asked last year about this and they told me they could only provide one line to the address :( We wanted 2 lines in because we had 7 people living in the same property who download / stream a lot, but they still said no

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The two main points that I'm aware of is that the existing account holder must give permission, and that it can't be a 'MDU' i.e. a flat block (as it's not a process to be used to get around unserviceability)

Also it would have to go through a credit score process, which I'd expect includes the existing account's payment history etc, and I would hope a capacity check too.

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Ah that's okay then. I'm fine on both bits there. I might ring up and ask.

thanks for the advice!

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Hope is a powerful thing innit? :dozey:

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so if I live in a detached house, am the account holder and have a mint credit score I can have a second line? I have said many a time before that my area is excellent for utilisation so that shouldn't be a problem either. Sounds like an awesome plan because the most I can get from fttc is 56mbits so I am pretty much screwed until fttp becomes available. Having 2 modems delivering 240mbits is a super idea and might be a new marketing gimick you want to suggest Ben. I can see it being very popular.

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Yes that's how I understand it I am going to ring tomorrow and ask about it.

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cool, let me know how it goes

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I will do. If it's as straightforward as Ben says I should be able to come back with another install date. I'm the account holder i have a house and i've never missed a bill so all should be good. My credit rating is certainly higher than it was when I took out VM, It was very bad then but they still took me on bless them!

I've been looking at a piece of kit a user called Ignitionnet recommended. Incase you were interested

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-E.../dp/B0064JCRXE

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thanks, Igni defo knows his stuff so I would strongly consider any equipment he recommends. Just be aware that it looks more like an enterprise level/managed router which will probably need a lot more configuration than the standard routers we use at home. On Cisco routers you have to configure dhcp pools, set ip addresses, routes, turn the ports on or off etc, I don't know how much of that you'll have to do with this one. Might need a quick google.

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Hope they aren't test accounts

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What'd be wrong with that?

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If I add my test account and a bonding router id have 360meg, nice!

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N idea what a test account is.,

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Just a modem you keep in your van for testing purposes

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I see. Fair enough

So can the other connection use the same brown and white box or does it need it's own? And would both SH's just go into something like the router above?


I'm no good at tech but I know someone who is and could do it :)

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yup. It wouldn't matter where the shubs were connected but they would obviously need to be close together so they can both connect to the router unless you want to start running cable around the house. The only bummer is that in this instance it does make sense to use shubs. Given that both modems will be on the same segment of the network it is in our best interests to have a modem which can load balance across more channels so we have a greater chance of getting max speed. What I am very curious about is whether they'll lock onto the same channels.

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Good point, mon General. Locking onto the same channels can partially defeat the objective. In such circumstances BT Infinity + VM XXL would be a better dual WAN option.

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if you can get it then yes agreed.

i just looked outside and don't really want another wire in the front as the current ones look a bit rough but if all it takes is another sh to be plugged in they could even do a self install? who knows i'm going to find out soon tho!

stm was dead yesterday but it's back today - so even when throttled it would be what 140 down if both throttled. not bad at all.

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You wouldn't have another wire through the door. You'd be split off the one that comes in now.

An engineer would come for a fresh install and get the new SH2 activated.

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Yes, why was I thinking I could just plug it in myself.

Sounds good. I forgot to ring up today i'll try on Monday.

I have space next to my current one and I could put the router I need to balance above them.

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Where are all the "Why would anyone even need 120Mb" naysayers when you need them

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When I hook up my VM & Infinity circuits via a load balancing router, it would be for the fun of it and the learning experience.

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I just read a new article from someone inside vm saying they didn't know why peope needed 100mb. They are so on the ball they don't even know it.. :o:

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Source?

And to be honest, it's not unheard of for executives at a company to say stupid stuff, or for people to claim that they don't understand why what they're selling is actually selling but that they'll happily sell it anyway.

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Darn I can't find it - but I will keep trying. I'm following the searches I did yesterday hoping to find it. I don't keep history stored when my pc turns off it wipes.

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"Virgin has had a competitive advantage on speed, but for the 30Mb level that fills most consumers' needs today, rivals can also fulfil that," he argues. "People want more than 5Mb to 8Mb but it is hard to see who needs 100Mb."

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...media-analysis

He may well have a point - I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone justify their need for 100Mb. Desire is another matter... Although the figures are slightly of date, Thinkbroadband had a relevant article 12 months ago

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5...ily-needs.html

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Thank you -that's what I was looking for! :)

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The full quote comes from Andrew Hogley:

Ahem:

Not someone from Virgin.

As for the justification, I don't think a single person can justify needing 100meg or higher just yet. But a house full of people is a different matter.

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I can't justify 240mbps but I am dam well going to try and get it - just because I can if I want to and I do want to

Your still right tho!

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Define "justify" and "needing". I used to "need" several gigabit connections.

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I'd wager those gigabit connections were for business rather than pleasure, though. That's a bit different.

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You suggesting I you couldn't pleasure yourself using three gigabit lines hooked up to a 2x10Gbit internet?

Though usually the business tariffs are *slower* than the consumer ones - VM Business broadband only goes up to 50Mb right now, so presumably they think businesses need even less.

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No it doesn't - they go up to at least 1Gb/sec http://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk...ternet-Access/

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You seem to be looking at the wrong page. You'll see I clearly stated "business broadband" , yet I cannot find the words "Business broadband" mentioned anywhere on that page, aside from in a link to a different part of the site. Managed leased lines != business broadband. Click the business broadband button and you will find:

http://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk...ess-Broadband/

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Well there's not exactly a lot of 8k 3D porn around these days. Believe me, I've checked!

Well sure, but I think nobody's under the illusion that a leased line is generally meant for businesses rather than personal use (unless you've got money to burn). Business broadband I suppose is aimed at smaller businesses that can't quite afford a leased line but still want something with high reliability. It is surprising that Virgin are still only doing 50mbit business though, though I believe you can bond a few of those together?

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You obviously arent looking in the right places

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He's too busy humping his avatar thingie!

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Exactly - business broadband is generally considered an unmanaged internet-access only service for businesses that need internet access but short of those who depend on it for their core business - and as you say small businesses of comparable size to average households rather than giant corporates with 200+ staff in each office. An electronics company sending complex designs and simulations to remote manufacturers will have different requirements to a family restaurant receiving bookings over the internet. That said, I recall the average number of employees in a UK business was on the order of... 4 (with the mode being 1), so I'd posit the "average" or vast majority of businesses wanting internet access for their 4 employees will be going for vanilla or business broadband and not even considering a leased line.

Similarly, that'd be my whole point that it's surprising they still only do 50Mb business broadband - though even that had been temporarily halted due to problems with the Superhub a year or two ago, I'm not sure when it resumed but for a while while 100Mb was being rolled out the best you could get on business was 20Mb.

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That's what she said.

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Oooh show me the way king! :D

aaaanyway I've been approved to have another connection so i'm going to ring and book it when I know my rota for the next month. Will keep you updated.

144mbps even when STM'd yummy! :)

I plan to invest in that router etc but silly question time.

if I had 1 connected to ethernet and 1 on wireless using N adapter would the PC take both connections at the same time? I like to have blonde moments on a Monday :D

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nope, but it doesn't matter anyway because you'll still get full speed. Because computers know wired connections should be faster than wireless, if you are currently connected wirelessly and then you connect a cable to your pc you'll see the wireless connection disappear from the task bar. This doesn't matter though because you are not asking the computer to use both wan connections simultaneously, you are asking the router to do it. Whether you are connected by wire or wirelessly, the router will load balance the traffic across both the connections and give you the best speed.

The only snafu I can see if that the router doesn't have wireless which means you'll have to use another one as a wireless access point. You'll need to do some reading and understand the technology and whole antenna thing to make sure you get one which can truely do 300mbits+ wirelessly (and correspondingly the wireless adapter supports it on any wireless devices you are planning to use)

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I guess my old TP link won't cut the mustard.

But it's okay I am totally wired apart from my Ipad but I can live with that.

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Hmm, This thread says it's not possible.. Have I been told wrong?

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...t/true#M180415

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No you have been told right, as I went and double checked the process before I mentioned it ;)

It's that advice which isn't correct. I'll pick it up with the forum colleagues tomorrow.

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okay thanks Ben,

Please don't think I thought you were wrong, I never doubted you for one minute.


I am glad I raised that now and thanks for offering to feed it back, It's good to see. The other person might want to be told off if you can find out who they are? Potential sale etc if anyone wants it!

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So I have a 1000/100 card. That router that Ignition suggested is also 1000/100 so I should be okay. It has 2 spare wan/lan ports so I could in threoy get a cheap used tp=link AP to plug into that and then I could have wireless too? I assume I would have to put both hubs into modem mode to feed them in properly?

Ive seen some models on ebay ( I think 1043nd or something simular) for £10 and they do upto 300mbps. I don't pay for my power so I am not fussed about how much it uses :D

Sorry or the questions. I've been reading the manual online all day today and I think I can understand it if not I can get it sorted

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Adduxi has done what yu're talking about. Look him up and find the thread/posts.

And yes - modem mode is advised because you don't want the SH(s) doing NAT). Bridge mode AP into your load balancing router wil provide wireless if the router itself doesn't.

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although downloads are going to be done in no time at all, the thing I would be getting excited about is 24mbits upload speed :)

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Well yes General there is that :D

And thanks Seph, made interesting breakfast reading :)

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When I move to this shortly, it'll be VM XXL load balanced with BT Infinity. I've no intention of bonding these services so that a single session is split between the two ISPs. It strikes me as being a bit of a minefield. I would load balance sessions onto different ISPs.

If I had two VM circuits, would I do that (splitting sessions across two circuits)? I'd try it to see if I can get 24 meg upload; my curiosity would get the better of me.

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It's getting the better of me too. There are 3 possible speed outcomes either way (unless I have got this all wrong based on load balancing)

1. 240 down
2.192 down if 1 is stm'd
3. 144 down if both stm's

1.say 22 up (i've never got more than 11 up anyway)
2.15 up if some is STM'd
3.around 9-10 if both are.

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Load balancing on consumer connections won't allow you to bond the two connections and combine the speed without you paying for a commercial endpoint at the other end. Thus you get two connections with the individual speed limits of each line, and will need to be doing that many things simultaneously to utilize the combined speed.

i.e. one download = 120Mbps, two downloads 2x120Mbps. One download split into two parts with a download manager = 240Mbps if you're lucky.

Similarly, you won't be able to send a 24Mbps HD video stream from your machine to elsewhere, but you can send 2x12Mbps streams. At least not without some dirty hacks.

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Oh I see, it's never as straight forward as first told is it! :(

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A potential 'gotcha' you should be aware of is the need to configure your router to only use one link for some sites. You'll find that connections to secure sites will be problematic if traffic from you to them swaps around between links...

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Yeah, there's a whole bunch of potential issues that might come from it. Some sites hate you changing IP address a lot as well (Which is how it'll look to them). For stuff like newsgroups or torrents though, you'd be flying.

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Cheers guys for the advice. I don't do newsgroups and I have no idea what a torrent is but I will google both of them.

My other half will know more than me. I thought the load balancer might give a new IP like some access points do?

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That's essentially it, you've got two completely separate connections, with two independent IP addresses coming in. Your load balancer will just switch between each one every time you create a new connection (Which means every time you click a link on a site or download a file or open up an application or game). So no single connection can go faster than the fastest single line, you only benefit from downloading multiple things at once.

Load balancing isn't perfect, either, some sites and services will refuse to work with it and depending on how you do it, you might not get an even 50/50 split all the time.

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I think it would be worth describing what you think the benefits of two connections are... Personally I think you're wasting money on something that won't actually help :(

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I dont think i go to any sites that would care about my IP. any banking I do on my phone.

Ive asked Adduxi how they are getting on with it.

So if I was to download 1 file and it came down full speed of 1 line I wouldn't get more speed until I downloaded something else at the same time?

Like this usergroups Kushan talked about? (i'm reading up on it now)

Or say I wanted to get a game from steam? that would be 1 line only? but if I did 2 it would be both?

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Guys,

Don't get too excited about what I'm at. Yes, I have a dual WAN router, taking VM and BT together, but it does NOT BOND. It does allow multiple devices to use both ISP's at once, but does not allow for one device to be on one site and use both ISP's.
It will allow use of both ISP concurrently, and load balances with a ratio of VM to BT WAN supplies. Sort of if VM is 100 and BT is 50 then the balance is approx 2:1 if that makes sense?
It will also do failover in the event of one ISP going down.

Sorry if this seems a bit vague, but I'm not the best at getting this over :o:

After postings from Quasi, I did question my decision with the TP-Link, but configuring DDWRT onto a DLink was just a step too far.
I had already discounted pfSense as it needs a server to run on.
At the end of the day, I'm happy with what I have and it really was a plug and play, easy to use, solution :)

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I am going to follow the Adduxi route. Maybe with a different router - I'm researching that.

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Ah I see - thanks for the clarification.

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Agree, I went for the Dual WAN to assist with the household demands on streaming and Xbox Live mostly.
With teenagers streaming movies, etc. etc. it works pretty well, and I don't hear any complaints which makes my life a bit less stressful. ;)

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I see what you did now. If I can't get both lines to download something together then I might as well just have 2 hubs and do what you do and balance the devices between the 2.

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it wasn't what I thought either. I assumed you would be able to do some sort of channel bonding so that if I downloaded a large file (http/steam/whatever) it would take advantage of both connections and blast away at 240mbits. From the sounds of it you'll use each connection seperately and download a http file on one line at 120mbits and then download your game on steam on the other 120mbit line. Still good though if you download a lot of torrents etc. If you download torrents or newsgroups though I don't understand why you feel you need 240mbits.

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I'd do it just for a laugh. I mean I'm not going to try and get a second VM circuit - I've got Infinity for diversity. But I wouldn't question anyone who wanted to have 2 VM circuits.

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AFAIK, pfSense will allow for WAN bonding, but I didn't want the cost of running a server 24X7. The only other option I can think of is some of the high end Cisco routers which will also allow bonding.
It all depends on your knowledge of Linux for pfSense or deep pockets for Cisco high end kit :)

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I have none i'm a dumb broad!

Does Ignition come on here? He recommended this router to someone else a while ago for such a job - but why would he if it didn't do what was being enquired about?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-E...productDetails

I have no idea on pfsense. but I am sure I could find someone to source and build me a server. I don't pay for electricity as I have said before so I don't care if it's on 24/7 :D

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I know I can ring up and get TV and phone added so I've always wondered if I can get another broadband line.

My view is what's the point in having a high credit limit if I can't use it!

@general. I don't do newsgroups as I said earlier. I had to google them and torrents to find out what they were.

I just like to download fast and I also want to be greedy. I've nothing else to spend my wages on! Sad aren't I!?

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If you're not too heavy a user, with minimal extra cost you could in fact bond two connections so you'd get full combined speed doing anything, but you'd need to use a customized router and it's not easy. A fun project if you're into router hacking but I'm not aware of any cheap "out of the box" solutions.

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Nothing and anything will allow bonding with the right equipment at the far end. No router will be able to bond two lines without the correct equipment at the far end, nomatter how much money you waste or how many Cisco logos you stick on it.

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It does load balancing which is the best you'll get without the appropriate equipment at the far end.

There's no need for a pfsense router when any Openwrt router will do the same job.

How about donating to the poor.

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I do already via a US charity and 2 others also in the UK. I hope you do too

Just wanted another toy for me :D

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That's the router I have, so no, it will not bond.

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Igni no longer comes on here, sadly. A difference of opinion with the mods, shall we say?

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Well being a female I'd hope not either!

I'm irish agreed but not from thailand or anything! :angel:

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Thats a shame but thanks for letting me know. ;)

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I will just take what you say as gospel as I know nothing about him or this place. Just seems a dreadful waste of knowledge!

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Virgin Media isn't male and it (yes it) does a lot of willy waving!

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Igni is held in the highest esteem here. He trumps everyone, IMO for knowledge. He isn't banned and he can be found here under Ignitionnet (if you feel you need to).

He posts a lot on Thinkbroadband.com.

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Thanks I will go and have a look there -

Virgin Media is confused then! :erm:

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Virgin Media doesn't like being called out by Igni!

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Virgin Media doesn't like being called out by anyone. IIRC he's worked for them in the past though.

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surely if this was allowed the capacity planning is made a joke off.

the sort of people who would want to bond 2 connections are probably heavy users, so instead of 1 guy able to fill 60% of a VM US channel he can now fill all of it or rather about 60% of 2 bonded upstreams, doesnt sound good.

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thats the big issue to be wary off, some sites will auto log you out whenever ip changes, some sites may even ban you, if you downloading of a download service and use a download manager to utilise both isp's together on a multi threaded download they may detect you as account sharing and ban you.

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by the way a fancy router isnt even needed for this.

one can have 2 routers (gateways) connected to the lan at once.

then on a windows pc both gateways can be added simultaneously, then you can mess with metrics, individual routing to different endpoints etc. This is what I did when I had adsl and cable activated together, I also briefly did it when I had infinity and cable together.

Seph may remember I have brought this up before.

Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
 

I do indeed.

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Chrysalis, yes agreed and I had this setup on my main W7 PC prior to buying the TP-Link. However not all kit allows for 2 gateways etc. so I opted to get the router.
It's all seamless now for any kit in the house :)

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yeah if you want control on your entire network instead of just on one device a router is better of course, especially if the devices cannot do it themselves, but for people with just 1 windows device for the bonding then they can save some cash.

I am glad you have also done what I did tho so someone else here now to backup its possible.

Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
 

Well when my line goes in I will be calling on one of you strapping chaps to guide me :D

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Just for the interested, here's a couple of TBB tests showing quirks of a Dual WAN setup.
I thought some of you might be interested ......

http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/826/04pn.jpg

http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/36/n5lh.jpg

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Should emphasise unbonded dual-WAN setup

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thanks for the reminder because I looked at it and was very unimpressed. It looks like a nice 120/20 connection. What are the speeds of the two seperate connections adduxi?

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Yes, of course unbonded. I don't have the knowledge to delve into Linux Dual Wan routing :o:

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VM is 120/12 and BT is 'about' 67/18.
Our household is pleased at any rate, and when you have kids, that's a big plus, believe me !! :)