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Wad_2002 16-09-2013 11:48

Some Virgin Compensation Advice
 
Hi Folks,

Apologies is this is the wrong section. It has been sometime since I have been on this forum due to familty, time etc.

I am hoping for some advice on what to do with my Virgin Service.

I will cut a long story short, been with virgin for many years, but for the last 3 years, I have had signal issues with my service which has led to sevre pixelation problems with my HD channels mainly being unwatchable.

The issue was first reported back in 2011 (which VM has confirmed recently) however they did not follow the fault though and basically I have lived with this for some years now. They sent tech's out, and they more or less pinned it ot the the tivo box iteself, but again did not follow it though with me.

Most recently, I upgraded and renewed my service and raised the issue with them again. Senior tech came out Saturday and has authorised with a cable repull for my property which is happening next week.

I have not had any issues in my view the internet, but the tech said that it would have been affected all this time as its a signal problem (something like 11 errors every 0.5secs)

Virgin said they would compensate me, but nothing specific at this point until after the repull. Do you guys think it reasonable for me to ask for 50% of my bills dating back to when the issue was first raised?

Any feedback would be appricated?

Thanks
Liam

p.s. good to be back on the forum :)

MalteseFalcon 16-09-2013 12:37

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Wouldn't hurt asking. There is definitely a case for you cancelling the service with no charge due to the issues you said I would say. But those who work for Virgin that post here would be best to answer this.

Wad_2002 16-09-2013 12:50

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35622151)
Wouldn't hurt asking. There is definitely a case for you cancelling the service with no charge due to the issues you said I would say. But those who work for Virgin that post here would be best to answer this.

Thanks. Yeah I am hoping VM don't try and put me in a corner where they tell me to cancel or lump it.

Personally, I like VM and my services (minus HD anyway) and don't want to go through the hassle of moving.

Thanks

spiderplant 16-09-2013 12:56

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There's no harm in asking.

But get it resolved first. It is standard practice to only give compensation after it is resolved, so they know what period they are compensating.

Doug P 16-09-2013 17:48

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Yes I had a more minor problem with the signal and they said the same as Spiderplant says above... the compensation was very fair.

Wad_2002 17-09-2013 13:38

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thanks folks.

Reason i ask is I am potentilly asking for £750+ compensation lol.

MutleyF 17-09-2013 13:54

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Think you may need to lower your expectations a little !

Wad_2002 17-09-2013 14:03

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Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35622630)
Think you may need to lower your expectations a little !

Noted...I thought that myself.

But what is reasonable in this case where I have had partial services for 3 years?

gizuk 17-09-2013 14:07

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Originally Posted by Wad_2002 (Post 35622633)
Noted...I thought that myself.

But what is reasonable in this case where I have had partial services for 3 years?

Have you really had partial service for the entirety of 3 years? I would have complained after 3 days and be cancelling by 3 weeks.

If it dragged on for 3 years I think you need to take a bit of the responsibility along with VM and be reasonable as to how it has TRULY impacted your service.

MutleyF 17-09-2013 14:20

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Forget the time span for a minute ....

My first thoughts were that the only problem reported was the HD channels are mainly unwatchable.
This does mean though the SD variants are fine.

I'm not normally one to complain to any provider, but the time span to resolve would have been the one thing I would argue about, not so much the lack of HD.

Be interesting to hear of the resolve

Wad_2002 17-09-2013 15:37

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Originally Posted by gizuk (Post 35622634)
Have you really had partial service for the entirety of 3 years? I would have complained after 3 days and be cancelling by 3 weeks.

If it dragged on for 3 years I think you need to take a bit of the responsibility along with VM and be reasonable as to how it has TRULY impacted your service.

As much as I would hate to say it, I do agree that perhaps I should have been at there heels a bit more.

However, I can only say that it was reported them at least twice, back in 2011. Had a couple of engineers out, they said they would be back in touch. No contact.

I got the automated call from VM advising "Press 1 if problem still exists" , etc. I remeber pressing that and again nothing. No further contact. Called back up presviously, and no disrespect and I am not being racist, but when you get connected the idian call centre try explaining this perstant problem to them. I did try and got no where, they kept asking if I wanted to remove channels. Plus I have a deep Scottish accent which doesn't help :).

It got to a stage where I got fed up with it and lived with it. They do have my call records on there system and according to one of the advisors the repair ticket back then doesn not have a resolution agaist it.

From a customer service point of view, I did try with them, I lft in there hands multiple times to resolve and they did not.

As for service disruption, I have not been able to watch serveral HD channels and slight pixelation on normal SD channels now and again, but nothing I can't live with.

Thanks for the feedback guys, I not done something like this before.

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Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35622639)
Forget the time span for a minute ....

My first thoughts were that the only problem reported was the HD channels are mainly unwatchable.
This does mean though the SD variants are fine.

I'm not normally one to complain to any provider, but the time span to resolve would have been the one thing I would argue about, not so much the lack of HD.

Be interesting to hear of the resolve

Exactly, again, another reason I lived with it cause I could watch the SD variants.

Again, got sick of calling up, taking time off work etc. So gave up on the issue.

andy_m 17-09-2013 16:15

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Whilst you should have been more proactive let's not lose sight of the fact that actually you're the customer and shouldn't really have to be chasing them to resolve an issue that has been reported to them. Once really should have been enough. What people regard as acceptable customer service never fails to amaze me. Good luck, let us know how you get on.

OLD BOY 18-09-2013 13:29

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I agree it's not acceptable service in this case, but it's a fact of life that you have to chase people sometimes.

Personally, I don't like the compensation culture that has grown like topsy in this country in recent years. All it does it put the costs up which translates in price increases for all of us. Is that really what we want?

gizuk 18-09-2013 13:45

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35622675)
Whilst you should have been more proactive let's not lose sight of the fact that actually you're the customer and shouldn't really have to be chasing them to resolve an issue that has been reported to them. Once really should have been enough. What people regard as acceptable customer service never fails to amaze me. Good luck, let us know how you get on.

It is perfectly reasonable for a company to presume that the issue has gone if they do something then we don't report it again. How are they to know that the issue is persistent if we don't let them know?

Whilst I don't think this is the case with the OP here I think there is a terrible culture rising where people always think it's someone else's responsibility. It's my responsibility to do something if I'm not getting the service I want.

andy_m 18-09-2013 14:43

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Originally Posted by gizuk (Post 35622944)
It is perfectly reasonable for a company to presume that the issue has gone if they do something then we don't report it again. How are they to know that the issue is persistent if we don't let them know?

Whilst I don't think this is the case with the OP here I think there is a terrible culture rising where people always think it's someone else's responsibility. It's my responsibility to do something if I'm not getting the service I want.

It's the company's responsibility to provide the service they advertise, and I don't think it hurts any company to actually follow up when they've undertaken engineering work, rather than just "presume that the issue has gone away". I genuinely find it incredible that people consider either of these things acceptable. I don't. Provide me with the service you advertise, if you can't the onus is on you to ensure it's resolved. It's because people accept less than these very basic standards that we get such poor customer service from companies.

I agree, Old Boy, that we don't want to live in a compensation culture where the average customer has to suffer increased bills because their service provider is always paying out. If the service providers get the basics right first time then we won't have to.

Wad_2002 18-09-2013 21:53

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Well got home from work last night and 2 VM vans outside drilling into my garden wall lol. They said they were here to do the repull. They were supposed to be doing it on Tuesday "4th of this month.

Looks like they are dealing with it as a priority as the senior tech had to make about 3 phone calls during his visit last Saturday. He did say to me then that he would raise this with a senior figure so thats been good :)

All good on the TV front though...no pixel problems. Nice clean signal. Everything seems good now.

Rang VM, they advised they would get a senior manager to call back today to discuss the situation. Oh and she women tried to offer £20 goodwill gesture lol. I said no in a calm and polite manner. .Unfortunately, no call back today.

On the compensation front folks...not looking to bleed VM to be honest but if the offered to pay my services for the next 3 months, I would be satisfied with that which personally I think is reasonable. (bill is now £57 p/m)

Fair enough If I was a newish customer, but I have been with them since the telewest days. I've paid them thousands over the years. But we see what happens.

Now have the pain of deleting about 30 series links to HD channels lol

Thanks for the feedback guys...will keep you posted.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35622938)
I agree it's not acceptable service in this case, but it's a fact of life that you have to chase people sometimes.

Personally, I don't like the compensation culture that has grown like topsy in this country in recent years. All it does it put the costs up which translates in price increases for all of us. Is that really what we want?

Fully agree that you do need to chase people, but I think I just got too use to it. As much it sounds weird and that VM probably think I am some nut job :) .

Only when I my contract expired back in June, that the guy who understood me and took it seriously, made the calls and made it happen, before continuing the upgrade.

Plus also that BT sport came to town for free was a given :)

savvychels 19-09-2013 01:38

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50% probably too much to ask. £20 offer is taking the mick. At the end of the day you were out a partial service that you were paying for though you were 'satisfied' Enoch to not be too bothered to keep chasing them. I would think a couple of months would be reasonable. I don't view your case as compensation so much as just getting back money for service not provided. And I think that's a reasonable expectation.

Wad_2002 21-09-2013 16:28

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Bit of an update folks.

Rec. call today from a team manager to discuss my case. Bottom line he said that he could see that reported these issues before but was not resolved and length of time is unacceptable.

We have agreed that VM will pay my bills for the next 3 months and have also gave me the sky sports collection free for 3 months too. Have to say very happy with the outcome and that they have treated my like a valued customer rather than a number.

Thanks for the feedback guys on this.

Sirius 21-09-2013 21:31

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Originally Posted by Wad_2002 (Post 35623997)
Bit of an update folks.

Rec. call today from a team manager to discuss my case. Bottom line he said that he could see that reported these issues before but was not resolved and length of time is unacceptable.

We have agreed that VM will pay my bills for the next 3 months and have also gave me the sky sports collection free for 3 months too. Have to say very happy with the outcome and that they have treated my like a valued customer rather than a number.

Thanks for the feedback guys on this.

Glad you got it sorted :tu:

savvychels 23-09-2013 00:22

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Great result.

MutleyF 23-09-2013 08:49

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I'd agree, seams a reasonable refund to me

kop32 23-09-2013 09:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35622978)
It's the company's responsibility to provide the service they advertise, and I don't think it hurts any company to actually follow up when they've undertaken engineering work, rather than just "presume that the issue has gone away". I genuinely find it incredible that people consider either of these things acceptable. I don't. Provide me with the service you advertise, if you can't the onus is on you to ensure it's resolved. It's because people accept less than these very basic standards that we get such poor customer service from companies.

I agree, Old Boy, that we don't want to live in a compensation culture where the average customer has to suffer increased bills because their service provider is always paying out. If the service providers get the basics right first time then we won't have to.

Andy,
Does this mean that every time you have your car fixed,tyre mended,washing machine repaired etc that you expect a call to see if everything is working?,surely not,my view is report the fault,allow a repair then if it is still not working report it again stressing that it is not the first time.

MutleyF 23-09-2013 09:28

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Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35624483)
Andy,
Does this mean that every time you have your car fixed,tyre mended,washing machine repaired etc that you expect a call to see if everything is working?,surely not,my view is report the fault,allow a repair then if it is still not working report it again stressing that it is not the first time.

Dunno - but Quickfit were pretty good at following up when I purchased a new tyre the other day ... they wanted to sell me everything under the sun ... you name the insurance policy, and they tried to sell it.

Shame they never asked how the new tyre was bearing up!


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