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jb66 10-09-2013 06:10
Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24024364

Toto 10-09-2013 06:20
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Yes, no need to put a ? in this thread title ;)

jb66 10-09-2013 06:52
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
It wasnt confirmed to me until just now, first I heard of it was on bbc news!

denphone 10-09-2013 07:01
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Here's the link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24024364

Kabaal 10-09-2013 07:21
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Don't suppose you can change the DNS on Tivo? If you can't then it's of no use to me as the UK Netflix hardly has any content.

tizmeinnit 10-09-2013 07:30
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35620198)
Don't suppose you can change the DNS on Tivo? If you can't then it's of no use to me as the UK Netflix hardly has any content.
That is not the case anymore. About 2 weeks ago I logged into UK Netflix and it was almost like it was a different service. I have used both UK and US Netflix in the past

passingbat 10-09-2013 07:36
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35620198)
Don't suppose you can change the DNS on Tivo? If you can't then it's of no use to me as the UK Netflix hardly has any content.

That's not really true these days.


And there is no reason why Tivo can't be used for UK content and your current Netflix devices for other regions.

Netflix offers 1080p streaming. Just checked my Tivo and it says that 1080p/25 is not suppored. Does anyone know if Tivo will be updated to allow 1080p?

I'm not sure what frame rate UK Netflix is but on the US site, most content, including US TV is 24fps.

Sirius 10-09-2013 07:52
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
VM's service just keeps getting better and better. This will go down great in our house.

Kabaal 10-09-2013 07:56
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35620200)
That is not the case anymore. About 2 weeks ago I logged into UK Netflix and it was almost like it was a different service. I have used both UK and US Netflix in the past

Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620204)
That's not really true these days.


And there is no reason why Tivo can't be used for UK content and your current Netflix devices for other regions.

Netflix offers 1080p streaming. Just checked my Tivo and it says that 1080p/25 is not suppored. Does anyone know if Tivo will be updated to allow 1080p?

I'm not sure what frame rate UK Netflix is but on the US site, most content, including US TV is 24fps.
I'm sorry but yes it is, The US Netflix has way more content than the UK one even now. Sure the UK one has bulked up a bit since it's launch but it still lagging way behind. My devices spend most of their time with the unblock.us DNS in them because of it.

I wouldn't use 2 devices for the 2 regions, i want less boxes under the TV not more :p:

tizmeinnit 10-09-2013 07:58
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35620212)
I'm sorry but yes it is, The US Netflix has way more content than the UK one even now. Sure the UK one has bulked up a bit since it's launch but it still lagging way behind. My devices spend most of their time with the unblock.us DNS in them because of it.

I wouldn't use 2 devices for the 2 regions, i want less boxes under the TV not more :p:
Then just do not use the Netflix app on Tivo then and do not worry about the millions of potential Netflix customers on Tivo who may be happy with what is on offer ;)

Sirius 10-09-2013 08:00
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35620214)
Then just do not use the Netflix app on Tivo then and do not worry about the millions of potential Netflix customers on Tivo who may be happy with what is on offer ;)
:clap:

passingbat 10-09-2013 08:08
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35620212)
I'm sorry but yes it is, The US Netflix has way more content than the UK one even now. Sure the UK one has bulked up a bit since it's launch but it still lagging way behind. My devices spend most of their time with the unblock.us DNS in them because of it.

I wouldn't use 2 devices for the 2 regions, i want less boxes under the TV not more :p:

If you already have a device fr Netfix, which you obviusly have as you access it already, then for those who already ave a Tivo, you are not adding a new box

devilincarnate 10-09-2013 08:18
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Press release

http://about.virginmedia.com/press-r...o-virgin-media

Kabaal 10-09-2013 08:21
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Jeez, it was a serious question (which none of you even bothered to answer). What's so hard to understand about me preferring the US netflix and wanting to know whether i'd be able to use it on Tivo instead of the WD TV Live? I don't have Tivo btw but had been considering getting it after reading this news.

tizmeinnit 10-09-2013 08:29
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35620235)
Jeez, it was a serious question (which none of you even bothered to answer). What's so hard to understand about me preferring the US netflix and wanting to know whether i'd be able to use it on Tivo instead of the WD TV Live? I don't have Tivo btw but had been considering getting it after reading this news.
sorry your initial post just come across as a criticism. The only network settings are for when you are connecting to your home network. I would assume Netflix would use the Tivo internal internet connection so it does not look like it

spiderplant 10-09-2013 09:10
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620204)
Netflix offers 1080p streaming. Just checked my Tivo and it says that 1080p/25 is not suppored.
Where have you read that? It's not true. (I know the help screen used to be wrong, but I thought that was fixed now)

Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620204)
I'm not sure what frame rate UK Netflix is but on the US site, most content, including US TV is 24fps.
They use various rates. It's been "interesting" getting it working on the VM TiVo. :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35620235)
Jeez, it was a serious question (which none of you even bothered to answer). What's so hard to understand about me preferring the US netflix and wanting to know whether i'd be able to use it on Tivo instead of the WD TV Live? I don't have Tivo btw but had been considering getting it after reading this news.
You shot yourself in the foot by saying "the UK Netflix hardly has any content" which is blatantly untrue. However, to answer your question, no you can't change the DNS setting.

freakgirl 10-09-2013 09:47
re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Awesome I just signed up for netflix last week

---------- Post added at 10:47 ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35620267)
Where have you read that? It's not true. (I know the help screen used to be wrong, but I thought that was fixed now)


They use various rates. It's been "interesting" getting it working on the VM TiVo. :)


You shot yourself in the foot by saying "the UK Netflix hardly has any content" which is blatantly untrue. However, to answer your question, no you can't change the DNS setting.
Yes the netflix content has gotten much better film wise of late

Stephen 10-09-2013 10:05
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Updated the thread title as its now official.

devilincarnate 10-09-2013 10:15
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Hi all

We have just had the confirmation of the Netflix trial plans for TiVo. I can announce that the lucky areas for Netflix to be rolled out and trialed are:
Peterborough
Crawley
Andover
Londonderry
Swindon
A full roll out is being planned for a later stage to cover other areas. We'll keep you posted as soon as we have more information.

Thanks
Craig
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...s/td-p/1981966

Qtx 10-09-2013 11:21
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
So they are trialling it now, how long before all customers get it?

Coming soon?

Sirius 10-09-2013 11:22
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35620285)
WHAT :mad:

passingbat 10-09-2013 12:12
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35620267)
Where have you read that? It's not true. (I know the help screen used to be wrong, but I thought that was fixed now)


.

I've checked both my Tivos and when I go into video settings, it won't let me select 1080p; it says that it is not supported.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620330)
I've checked both my Tivos and when I go into video settings, it won't let me select 1080p; it says that it is not supported.
Reading the info screen on the video settings page says that 1080p is supported if you let the video 'pass through' with no up-scaling from Tivo. But if I tick all the video resolution boxes, it still says that 1080p is not supported. Are you meant to assume that it is and press the continue button?

spiderplant 10-09-2013 12:15
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35620318)
So they are trialling it now, how long before all customers get it?
By the end of the year, subject to success of the pilot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620330)
I've checked both my Tivos and when I go into video settings, it won't let me select 1080p; it says that it is not supported.

Reading the info screen on the video settings page says that 1080p is supported if you let the video 'pass through' with no up-scaling from Tivo. But if I tick all the video resolution boxes, it still says that 1080p is not supported. Are you meant to assume that it is and press the continue button?
Your TV is telling the TiVo it doesn't support 1080p. What make & model TV is it?

Qtx 10-09-2013 12:23
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35620364)
By the end of the year, subject to success of the pilot.
A roll out before the end of the year isn't too bad. One of my friends still has Virgin but downgraded the tv package to save some money. Had mentioned Netflix as an alternative as they no longer had movies, maybe this will be useful.

passingbat 10-09-2013 12:39
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35620364)

Your TV is telling the TiVo it doesn't support 1080p. What make & model TV is it?
It's a Sony KDL40W4000.

It does support 1080p. Tivo is connected to the TV via the output of my Yamaha RX-V1900 AV amp, All my other devices connect to the TV in the same way.

My WDTV Live SMP, 3 different Blueray players and an HTPC are all set to output 1080p via the same connection method and do so with no problem.

spiderplant 10-09-2013 12:47
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620376)
It's a Sony KDL40W4000.

It does support 1080p. Tivo is connected to the TV via the output of my Yamaha RX-V1900 AV amp,
Aha, I've come across this with amps before. Check for firmware updates to the amp. Or it may be fine to just set the TiVo to 1080p regardless.

passingbat 10-09-2013 13:08
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35620379)
Or it may be fine to just set the TiVo to 1080p regardless.
Thanks Spiderplant

It won't let me select 1080p


It has the following options, all selectable

576i
576p
720p
1080i


Then a white line, below which it says

1080p@25fps (not supported) which is not selectable.


TBH it's not a big deal. I use my WDTVLive for Netflix which has the advantage of not being limited to UK Netflix.

I'll try the Tivo app when it arrives and see how it looks. As the amp is an older one with no internet connection, updating firmware (if there is a new version) is not so easy. And I'm a firm believer, where firmware is concerned, if it aint broke... I don't want to fix one problem and potentially cause a whole bunch more :)

Maybe it will fix itself when the next TiVo update arrives?

Mr Pharmacist 10-09-2013 13:21
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620385)
Thanks Spiderplant

It won't let me select 1080p


It has the following options, all selectable

576i
576p
720p
1080i


Then a white line, below which it says

1080p@25fps (not supported) which is not selectable.


TBH it's not a big deal. I use my WDTVLive for Netflix which has the advantage of not being limited to UK Netflix.

I'll try the Tivo app when it arrives and see how it looks. As the amp is an older one with no internet connection, updating firmware (if there is a new version) is not so easy. And I'm a firm believer, where firmware is concerned, if it aint broke... I don't want to fix one problem and potentially cause a whole bunch more :)

Maybe it will fix itself when the next TiVo update arrives?
I just had a look at my settings after I read your post. 1080p also came up as not supported, but I then went through the "test formats" on the right of the screen. It went through all the settings and then allowed you to select 1080p. I'd imagine it would let you do the same. The 1080p was only at 25hz though

passingbat 10-09-2013 15:21
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35620396)
I just had a look at my settings after I read your post. 1080p also came up as not supported, but I then went through the "test formats" on the right of the screen. It went through all the settings and then allowed you to select 1080p. I'd imagine it would let you do the same.
Thanks. Will give it a go.

---------- Post added at 16:21 ---------- Previous post was at 14:28 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35620396)
I just had a look at my settings after I read your post. 1080p also came up as not supported, but I then went through the "test formats" on the right of the screen. It went through all the settings and then allowed you to select 1080p. I'd imagine it would let you do the same. The 1080p was only at 25hz though
Tried that but it didn't work for me.

HDFootyMan 10-09-2013 17:13
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Does the app support Super-HD content in Netflix?

spiderplant 10-09-2013 18:19
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35620474)
Does the app support Super-HD content in Netflix?
Yes

muppetman11 10-09-2013 18:23
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Does it support the new profiles feature Netflix recently added ?

SnoopZ 10-09-2013 18:25
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Do you have to pay a Netflix sub on top of your regular VM sub to use this service?

Sirius 10-09-2013 18:26
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
As far as UK V US look here

http://netflixukvsusa.blogspot.co.uk/

Stuart 10-09-2013 19:42
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35620214)
Then just do not use the Netflix app on Tivo then and do not worry about the millions of potential Netflix customers on Tivo who may be happy with what is on offer ;)
:gpoint:

spiderplant 10-09-2013 20:03
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35620508)
Does it support the new profiles feature Netflix recently added ?
Not that I can see.

Stephen 10-09-2013 20:25
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35620509)
Do you have to pay a Netflix sub on top of your regular VM sub to use this service?
Yes

Chad 10-09-2013 21:32
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35620509)
Do you have to pay a Netflix sub on top of your regular VM sub to use this service?
As it's only at trial stage, full details have not yet been confirmed. The BBC suggested the following:

"The BBC understands that Virgin may offer Netflix as part of a bundled service."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24024364

passingbat 10-09-2013 22:06
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35620396)
I just had a look at my settings after I read your post. 1080p also came up as not supported, but I then went through the "test formats" on the right of the screen. It went through all the settings and then allowed you to select 1080p. I'd imagine it would let you do the same. The 1080p was only at 25hz though

Just tried it on my bedroom setup where the tivo video out doesn't go through the AV amp; it goes directly to an HDMI input on the TV (5.1 audio is via Tivo's optical out to the amp).

I get the same problem; 1080p not supported. The TV is an older model than the lounge one; Sony 40W2000, but still is 1080p capable. I have a second WDTV Live SMP, and that connects at 1080p just fine, as have previously connected Blueray players.

Another HDMI conundrum.

Mr Pharmacist 11-09-2013 09:58
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620586)
Just tried it on my bedroom setup where the tivo video out doesn't go through the AV amp; it goes directly to an HDMI input on the TV (5.1 audio is via Tivo's optical out to the amp).

I get the same problem; 1080p not supported. The TV is an older model than the lounge one; Sony 40W2000, but still is 1080p capable. I have a second WDTV Live SMP, and that connects at 1080p just fine, as have previously connected Blueray players.

Another HDMI conundrum.
God knows what's going on then. I'm assuming you went through the test bit as I said. Did it say "If you see an image press thumbs up 3 times" when it went through each output setting on the test section? Just trying to think why it allowed me to do as i said but won't let you. I run the Tivo box via HDMI through a Sony surround sound system by the way but wouldn't think that alters anything regarding the Tivo setting we're on about. Sorry to others on this thread if this is going astray from the original topic.

Bogof 11-09-2013 16:13
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
STOP PRESS...Netflix confirmed as..........Coming soon lololollmaol

passingbat 11-09-2013 16:27
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35620669)
God knows what's going on then. I'm assuming you went through the test bit as I said. Did it say "If you see an image press thumbs up 3 times" when it went through each output setting on the test section? Just trying to think why it allowed me to do as i said but won't let you. I run the Tivo box via HDMI through a Sony surround sound system by the way but wouldn't think that alters anything regarding the Tivo setting we're on about. Sorry to others on this thread if this is going astray from the original topic.
I did the test and it went through the different resolutions.... 576i, 576p, 720p, 1080i.

It said to press Thumbs up once if you saw an image which I did on all the above resolutions. It then did the final one (1080p I presume) and the screen went blank followed by an unsupported resolution notice.

It only said to press thumbs up once for each resolution, not three times.

Mr Pharmacist 11-09-2013 17:28
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620821)
I did the test and it went through the different resolutions.... 576i, 576p, 720p, 1080i.

It said to press Thumbs up once if you saw an image which I did on all the above resolutions. It then did the final one (1080p I presume) and the screen went blank followed by an unsupported resolution notice.

It only said to press thumbs up once for each resolution, not three times.
I just tried it again and it was press thumbs up once. **** knows where i got three times from!. I do use reading glasses so maybe i need my eyes tested again :erm: It still went through to the 1080p resolution though :confused:

meekboy 13-09-2013 18:14
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
I think you can only get to work in 1080p if you already have access to netflix via TiVo, mine runs at 1080p 24 frames but before hand I could only get it to run 1080i

passingbat 13-09-2013 18:42
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meekboy (Post 35621460)
I think you can only get to work in 1080p if you already have access to netflix via TiVo, mine runs at 1080p 24 frames but before hand I could only get it to run 1080i

Interesting. Where does it show the 24fps?

I know a lot of US Netflix, both film and TV shows, are 24fps, but not sure what most of the UK content is. (I think Spiderplant said somewhere that it varies?)

I have my WD box set to output 1080p/24 and it works fine for all Netflix regions.

meekboy 13-09-2013 18:57
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
I have been watching breaking bad and my tv(sony bravia) switches to 1080p 24 frames, I haven't checked anything else just yet.

passingbat 13-09-2013 19:08
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meekboy (Post 35621474)
I have been watching breaking bad and my tv(sony bravia) switches to 1080p 24 frames, I haven't checked anything else just yet.
That makes sense as that is a US TV show so will be in 24fps.

I assume this is the version of the Netflix app we have got and it does switch frame rates according to the content it receives.

http://www.techofthehub.com/2012/05/...on-review.html

meekboy 13-09-2013 19:25
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
thats the US version by the looks of it the UK tivo version looks more like the website version, it runs really smooth, a lot smoother than the tivo youtube app

passingbat 13-09-2013 19:38
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meekboy (Post 35621484)
thats the US version by the looks of it the UK tivo version looks more like the website version, it runs really smooth, a lot smoother than the tivo youtube app

Yes that is the US version, but I would have thought the VM would have been similar, as that is the one added to the US Tivo Premier, which the VM Tivo is based on. I guess they must have modified it. But by the sounds of it, they have ported over the ability to play the frame rate that the content is in.

Wish I was in the trial area.

meekboy 13-09-2013 19:45
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Not too long to wait to wait! I was in the TiVo firmware trial and they left us on the trial server after they had announced netflix

spiderplant 13-09-2013 20:18
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35621465)
I know a lot of US Netflix, both film and TV shows, are 24fps, but not sure what most of the UK content is. (I think Spiderplant said somewhere that it varies?)
They have a right mish-mash of rates. It's at least all these: 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, 30.

passingbat 13-09-2013 20:42
Re: Netflix on TiVo(Confirmed)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35621502)
They have a right mish-mash of rates. It's at least all these: 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, 30.

I think that's because Netflix can't modify or pick and choose the content format that they get from the providers.

I read an article on the Netflix technical blog about it some time ago. And on another forum today, someone asked why, say, Danish subtitles are optional on some US films/shows on Denmark Netflix and not on others. It's down to the version they are able to get the rights to and the conditions that come with those rights. It's a bit of a hotch potch and something Netflix are working towards solving.


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