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jtaylor06 29-08-2013 21:41

Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Hi all,

Just had a thought, since Freeview does something similar;
Wouldn't it have been logical if HD channels was a 4 digit number keeping the original 3 digits intact. ('1'+'[channel number]');

e.g. BBC One HD would be 1101
MTV HD would be 1134
Film 4 HD would be 1429
and so on...

Alternatively, 0 could be used in replacement of 1 so 0101 etc.

This would also mean:
- Freeing up space in the EPG for other channels
- Allowing easy transition of everything to HD when equipment allows (just swap them around)

Let me know what you think :-)

spiderplant 29-08-2013 22:23

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35616351)
e.g. BBC One HD would be 1101

There's a problem with this idea. Think about what happens when you press 1-1-0 on the remote.

toady 29-08-2013 23:18

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I'm happy with the current setup, only improvement would be to group the main channel, the +1 and the HD channel together, rather than one of them being miles away from the others

jtaylor06 30-08-2013 00:16

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35616357)
There's a problem with this idea. Think about what happens when you press 1-1-0 on the remote.

Good point, how about 0xxx?

passingbat 30-08-2013 15:33

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Could wee have a 'Don't care' option?

Maggy 30-08-2013 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35616541)
Could wee have a 'Don't care' option?

There is one..Just abstain from voting..

nodrogd 30-08-2013 15:49

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Pretty sure the new boxes would be capable of doing this. But what about the legacy V+ HD boxes, of which there are still thousands in circulation?

passingbat 30-08-2013 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35616546)
There is one..Just abstain from voting..


That is not the same.


Because I use Tivo as a PVR and record everything, and don't watch live TV (except BBC News channel) I really don't care what numbers the channels are and how they are ordered.

'Don't care' is a valid option/opinion.

jtaylor06 30-08-2013 18:42

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35616546)
There is one..Just abstain from voting..

As Maggy has said, if you feel like your contribution is of no worthy input, abstain from taking part.
This is just a poll to see how it fares with users as it was an idea; however feedback such as this helps to see which ideas would work well and what ideas do not.

This is a task that I am often involved with, being a tester for a certain corporation.

As for channel numbering, this would relieve the overcrowding of certain channel categories that are currently filling up, paving way for new channels in the future.
This has been put into practice with a friend's Samsung TV in which has built in Freeview HD. BBC One SD is on "1" and BBC One HD is on "101".

Doug P 31-08-2013 15:57

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I voted no. Just my view but really do not see it being of any real benefit.

dwarfofpoison 31-08-2013 18:30

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35616845)
I voted no. Just my view but really do not see it being of any real benefit.

I too can't see the 4 digit solution being of any help, until we get to 999 channels!

DaMac 01-09-2013 08:45

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A remap option would be much more simple, it works on sky.

SnoopZ 01-09-2013 08:54

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35616964)
A remap option would be much more simple, it works on sky.

NTL used to have that i think, or something similar.

pythagoras 01-09-2013 12:50

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
I don't think the advantages out way the disadvantage of having to hit four keys instead of three to select a channel.

Ben B 01-09-2013 15:04

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If you watch the HD channels regularly you tend to remember the numbers anyway. Plus you can press blue on the mini guide and choose the HD category

SnoopZ 01-09-2013 15:34

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35617106)
If you watch the HD channels regularly you tend to remember the numbers anyway. Plus you can press blue on the mini guide and choose the HD category

Not on my V+ you can't, i find all these numbers a pain in the ass lol.

If it is a Tivo thing, is it possible to upgrade to a Tivo without getting a new 12 month contract?

Ben B 02-09-2013 08:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35617116)
Not on my V+ you can't, i find all these numbers a pain in the ass lol.

If it is a Tivo thing, is it possible to upgrade to a Tivo without getting a new 12 month contract?

Ah yes on that it is a much longer Home > TV Guide > HD process haha. Well I didn't enter a 12 month contract for 2nd TiVo, can't remember for the first one. If you are you're only locked in for the TV part

richard s 02-09-2013 09:44

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What about having a HD button on new handsets.

tweetiepooh 02-09-2013 11:42

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OR

If you are connected to a HD TV (or set option) then the SD channels will route the HD version behind the scenes so the channel numbers can become "virtual".

Media Boy UK 02-09-2013 11:57

Re: Suggestion for HD (Poll)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35616351)
Hi all,

Just had a thought, since Freeview does something similar;
Wouldn't it have been logical if HD channels was a 4 digit number keeping the original 3 digits intact. ('1'+'[channel number]');

e.g. BBC One HD would be 1101
MTV HD would be 1134
Film 4 HD would be 1429
and so on...

Alternatively, 0 could be used in replacement of 1 so 0101 etc.

This would also mean:
- Freeing up space in the EPG for other channels
- Allowing easy transition of everything to HD when equipment allows (just swap them around)

Let me know what you think :-)

Here is my own idea:

Move all HD Channels from Entertainment and move to Channel 201 and renumber Entertainment.

Like this:
201. BBC One HD
202. BBC Two HD
203. ITV HD
204. Channel 4 HD
205. Channel 5 HD
206. BBC Three HD
207. BBC Four HD
210. Sky1 HD
211. Sky Living HD
213. ITV2 HD
214. ITV3 HD
215. ITV4 HD
216. Watch HD
218. Dave HD
219. Alibi HD
221. Comedy Central HD
222. MTV HD
223. SyFy HD
225. E4 HD
227. FOX HD
228. TLC HD

Move to Factual to after Music or Sports.

dwarfofpoison 02-09-2013 19:15

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The debate doesn't or shouldn't need to be about 3 digits, 4 digits and where the numbers fall but writing code that provides for far greater user control of "My Favourites". An improved USER INTERFACE.

My dream is for settings that provide the ability for the user to prioritise My Favourites, not dissimilar to Series links: e.g. if I move
BBC ONE HD (108) to the top of the list, it now becomes No.1
BBC TWO HD (187) to the next position No.2
when My Favourites is selected, pressing one button on the remote will take me where I want to be.

My ten year old, almost obsolete DVD player gives me this control but my high end TiVo means I've got a three button press to just get an unorganised list of favourite channels chosen and you know the TiVo's going to forget this choice pretty soon.

Doug P 03-09-2013 09:22

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Am fine with favourites it works for me and the current channel launches suggest VM are in no hurry to change the channel numbering...


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