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Lincsbri 23-08-2013 12:23

Price increase for VM subscribers to Sky Sports
 
Hi just got a letter saying that the XL package is going up another £1.50 from October,didn't think it be long after getting BT sports for free :(

Media Boy UK 23-08-2013 12:24

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lincsbri (Post 35614010)
Hi just got a letter saying that the XL package is going up another £1.50 from October,didn't think it be long after getting BT sports for free :(

The cost of Sky Sports is going up by £1.50 from October.

BenMcr 23-08-2013 12:24

Re: Price increase XL
 
It's Sky Sports that is going up by £1.50, not TV XL

eugene 23-08-2013 12:51

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35614013)
It's Sky Sports that is going up by £1.50, not TV XL

Respect nice one.

martin201002 23-08-2013 12:52

Re: Price increase XL
 
Even if it was going up 1.50 isn't a lot.

geordiechris 23-08-2013 13:02

Re: Price increase XL
 
Will the VIP Collection be increasing by £1.50?

martin201002 23-08-2013 13:04

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geordiechris (Post 35614027)
Will the VIP Collection be increasing by £1.50?

Don't think so because sky sports is inclusive.

Jameseh 23-08-2013 13:06

Re: Price increase XL
 
£25.75 to £27.25 for something that costs £22 on Sky.

Good ole ******* Virgin, how I missed ya.

Lincsbri 23-08-2013 13:09

Re: Price increase XL
 
ok mine just said that my XL package was going up due to sky putting up the sport/movies but we are nit picking on what i said really, if you on the xl package then you have sports etc so either way its going up regardless of how i described it :)

andy_m 23-08-2013 13:11

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lincsbri (Post 35614032)
ok mine just said that my XL package was going up due to sky putting up the sport/movies but we are nit picking on what i said really, if you on the xl package then you have sports etc so either way its going up regardless of how i described it :)

You're on vip, not xl. Xl doesn't include Sky Sports.

clinteastman 23-08-2013 13:11

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35614029)
£25.75 to £27.25 for something that costs £22 on Sky.

Good ole ******* Virgin, how I missed ya.

I think you can blame ******* Sky for this one!

theone2k10 23-08-2013 13:16

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35614029)
£25.75 to £27.25 for something that costs £22 on Sky.

Good ole ******* Virgin, how I missed ya.

You do realise Sky set the wholesale prices right? I really hope BT sports takes of and greedy Sky get the kicking they deserve.

andy_m 23-08-2013 13:16

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35614034)
I think you can blame ******* Sky for this one!

Given that Small World are offering Sky Sports at a loss to compensate for the loss of ESPN, I think it's fair to say that Virgin probably have some control over what they pass on to customers. In addition, it was Bt who pushed the price of Premier League football up. Had Sky not beaten them in that auction we wouldn't have ended up with Bt Sport in the xl package.

Lincsbri 23-08-2013 13:59

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35614033)
You're on vip, not xl. Xl doesn't include Sky Sports.

LoL oh sorry i should update my profile doh if i was not on the XL i would not have got the letter.

passingbat 23-08-2013 13:59

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35614036)
it was Bt who pushed the price of Premier League football up..

It's the whole stupid system, motivated by greed, that put the price up.

neilo 23-08-2013 14:07

Re: Price increase XL
 
So can you just get Sky Sports 1 and 2 only for a bit less than the Sky Sports Collection on VM? I thought I saw someone on here say you can but I can't see it on VM's site anywhere?

clinteastman 23-08-2013 14:11

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35614036)
Given that Small World are offering Sky Sports at a loss to compensate for the loss of ESPN, I think it's fair to say that Virgin probably have some control over what they pass on to customers. In addition, it was Bt who pushed the price of Premier League football up. Had Sky not beaten them in that auction we wouldn't have ended up with Bt Sport in the xl package.

I'm sure they do, but you wouldn't expect them to take a loss on that because sky want more money.

BenMcr 23-08-2013 14:18

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geordiechris (Post 35614027)
Will the VIP Collection be increasing by £1.50?

Yes it will
Quote:

Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35614028)
Don't think so because sky sports is inclusive.

Just because it's part of the package, doesn't mean it won't be affected price changes

---------- Post added at 15:18 ---------- Previous post was at 15:15 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35614036)
Given that Small World are offering Sky Sports at a loss to compensate for the loss of ESPN, I think it's fair to say that Virgin probably have some control over what they pass on to customers. In addition, it was Bt who pushed the price of Premier League football up. Had Sky not beaten them in that auction we wouldn't have ended up with Bt Sport in the xl package.

Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35614057)
I'm sure they do, but you wouldn't expect them to take a loss on that because sky want more money.

And considering Virgin Media DO have BT Sports and ESPN, which being in XL are unconnected to Sky Sports options, why would they want to subsidise it?

victim 23-08-2013 14:22

Re: Price increase XL
 
I'm new here. Can someone tell me who owns this site and who controls it ? Thanks.

BenMcr 23-08-2013 14:23

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by victim (Post 35614063)
I'm new here. Can someone tell me who owns this site and who controls it ? Thanks.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/about/7/about-cable-forum

andy_m 23-08-2013 15:20

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lincsbri (Post 35614049)
LoL oh sorry i should update my profile doh if i was not on the XL i would not have got the letter.

I don't understand what you mean? I'm on xl, but I don't have Sky Sports. I haven't got a letter.

---------- Post added at 16:19 ---------- Previous post was at 16:18 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35614050)
It's the whole stupid system, motivated by greed, that put the price up.

Yes, agreed.

---------- Post added at 16:20 ---------- Previous post was at 16:19 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35614057)
I'm sure they do, but you wouldn't expect them to take a loss on that because sky want more money.

No, I wouldn't expect that. But then I wouldn't expect Sky to pay extra for their rights and take a loss on that, either.

clinteastman 23-08-2013 15:36

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35614073)
No, I wouldn't expect that. But then I wouldn't expect Sky to pay extra for their rights and take a loss on that, either.

Nope wouldn't expect that either.

Superblade7 23-08-2013 15:43

Re: Price increase XL
 
I've got the letter today too about the £1.50 rise for my Sky Sports & Sky Movies package. Earlier posts suggest that it is Sky Sports that is rising by £1.50, so is there no increase on Sky Movies?

Just wondered as I've recently cancelled movies but will still get the £1.50 increase if it's Sky Sports going up.

Cheers

andy_m 23-08-2013 15:48

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35614034)
I think you can blame ******* Sky for this one!

Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35614078)
Nope wouldn't expect that either.

I perhaps misunderstood the point of your first post then?

clinteastman 23-08-2013 16:03

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35614094)
I perhaps misunderstood the point of your first post then?

The post I was replying to called VM *******s for putting the price up, so I just deflected his terminology to Sky. I don't think they are *******s for putting the price up. These are companies in the business of making money.

Lostlam 23-08-2013 17:13

Re: Price increase XL
 
I think the price increases are going over the top. It might be Sky's doing, but I don't understand how VM don't have any leeway in negotiations. They are the ones who agree the deal with Sky. They fought with BT to get BT Sports for the best price for their customers, but they don't seem to be doing the same with Sky.

andy_m 23-08-2013 18:59

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35614105)
The post I was replying to called VM *******s for putting the price up, so I just deflected his terminology to Sky. I don't think they are *******s for putting the price up. These are companies in the business of making money.

Sorry - didn't read that properly.

andrewbrown 23-08-2013 19:13

Re: Price increase XL
 
Can a mod please change the thread title as it is incorrect?

tridens 23-08-2013 19:51

Re: Price increase XL
 
Is tv xl increasing by £1.50 yes or no ?

Maggy 23-08-2013 20:04

re: Price increase for VM subscribers to Sky Sports
 
Title amended

mikcoles 23-08-2013 20:07

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lincsbri (Post 35614049)
LoL oh sorry i should update my profile doh if i was not on the XL i would not have got the letter.

Yes doh you are right I am on VIP and not XL and I didn't get the letter.

spiderplant 23-08-2013 20:40

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tridens (Post 35614207)
Is tv xl increasing by £1.50 yes or no ?

No

alwaysabear 24-08-2013 07:30

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikcoles (Post 35614214)
Yes doh you are right I am on VIP and not XL and I didn't get the letter.

I have sky sports , so far no letter.

Maggy 24-08-2013 07:50

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35614279)
I have sky sports , so far no letter.

Well it's the old VM adage.;)

Coming soon.

Gavin-D 24-08-2013 13:22

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35614279)
I have sky sports , so far no letter.

Got mine this morning you will get one if you haven't got it today you may get it on Tuesday

BenMcr 25-08-2013 11:23

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35614130)
I think the price increases are going over the top. It might be Sky's doing, but I don't understand how VM don't have any leeway in negotiations. They are the ones who agree the deal with Sky. They fought with BT to get BT Sports for the best price for their customers, but they don't seem to be doing the same with Sky.

Because unlike BT Sports, Sky Sports 1 & 2 are regulated by OFCOM http://media.ofcom.org.uk/analysts/regulated-prices/ , and it's the change in the regulated price which is causing VM's increase

Chad 25-08-2013 14:45

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35614570)
Because unlike BT Sports, Sky Sports 1 & 2 are regulated by OFCOM http://media.ofcom.org.uk/analysts/regulated-prices/ , and it's the change in the regulated price which is causing VM's increase

Virgin and SKY can chose to adsorb the costs or pass them onto their customers. Both choose customers. Smallworld however take the hit themselves:

http://www.smallworldcable.com/Cable-TV/Sky-Sports

Get SKY Sports 1&2 for £12.00 per month or the full SKY sports package for £16.00 per month. How refreshing.

Lostlam 25-08-2013 22:14

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35614570)
Because unlike BT Sports, Sky Sports 1 & 2 are regulated by OFCOM http://media.ofcom.org.uk/analysts/regulated-prices/ , and it's the change in the regulated price which is causing VM's increase

I can understand that, but why is there such a big difference between the cost of SS on Sky, and SS on VM?

Khenryashley 26-08-2013 08:42

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35614283)
Well it's the old VM adage.;)

Coming soon.

That's ok then. We won't see it for ages. ;)

TonyM19 26-08-2013 10:48

Re: Price increase for VM subscribers to Sky Sports
 
I will cancel my Sky Sports within seconds of the RL Grand Final finishing and set it back up again the day before the season starts. I've been meaning to do this for a couple of years, but its happening this year - especially now that I've got BT Sports

BenMcr 27-08-2013 12:06

Re: Price increase XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35614644)
Virgin and SKY can chose to adsorb the costs or pass them onto their customers. Both choose customers. Smallworld however take the hit themselves:

http://www.smallworldcable.com/Cable-TV/Sky-Sports

Get SKY Sports 1&2 for £12.00 per month or the full SKY sports package for £16.00 per month. How refreshing.

Smallworld are making a loss on those prices, as they are under the wholesale cost for 1&2, and don't factor how much more they are having to pay to get 3&4, F1 and SSN.

They did that specifically because they weren't getting BT Sport which is fine if that is what works for them and they can cover the cost doing so via the general subscription income.

However VM would have to spend millions per year doing the same, due to the higher number of Sky Sport customers they have, in addition to the millions they've just paid to get BT Sport

Khenryashley 28-08-2013 11:48

Re: Price increase XL
 
Just had my increase letter.
£1.50 increase for VIP package.

dazed&confused 28-08-2013 11:54

Re: Price increase for VM subscribers to Sky Sports
 
Received letter this morning
£1.50 for Sky sports & movies.

Can't blame VM, increase down to Sky.
Expected a larger rise for BT sports, so still happy.

Sirius 28-08-2013 12:19

Re: Price increase for VM subscribers to Sky Sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35615523)
Received letter this morning
£1.50 for Sky sports & movies.

Can't blame VM, increase down to Sky.
Expected a larger rise for BT sports, so still happy.

My feelings as well


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