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alanbjames 21-08-2013 22:08

KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
I have a KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012.

Im having an intermittant problem where say your sitting at traffic lights and the car is idling the car will suddenly cut out. Theres no problems restarting the car but the engine just dies.

Ive had a mobile until come out to test engine management and he said there were no problems he could find.

Anyone know what it could be i can drive but when it comes to mechanical stuff im useless lol

Jimmy-J 21-08-2013 22:50

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
It might be haunted! :D

Derek 22-08-2013 09:35

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
I might just stating the obvious but does that model not have stop/start technology that cuts out at lights to save fuel?

RB2004 22-08-2013 11:51

Normally press the clutch in and it will automatically restart or something

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Normally press the clutch in and it will automatically restart or something

Osem 22-08-2013 11:52

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Could be any one of a number of things but I'm confused, presumably the car is under warranty (7 years isn't it?) so why isn't your Kia dealer sorting it out? I think I'd be wanting to get the dealer to take it in rather than risk it getting worse and getting stuck somewhere.

MovedGoalPosts 22-08-2013 12:09

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
It's supposed to cut out when the car is stationary :confused:

http://www.kia.co.uk/new-cars/ecodynamics.aspx
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kia
The key to EcoDynamics is our state-of-the-art Intelligent 'Stop and Go' technology, which switches off the engine whenever the car is stationary, cutting down on fuel usage and CO2 emissions*.


Chris 22-08-2013 12:17

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Best. Thread. Ever. :D

Osem 22-08-2013 12:23

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
That's what Derek stated but the OP didn't seem convinced and why didn't the dealer and call out service he used inform him of that at the time? Very confused here :D

richard s 22-08-2013 12:31

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Magic - I wonder if a new starter motor would be required at 50,000 miles on the clock with this technology.

Pauls9 22-08-2013 13:29

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Had Stop and Start on a loan Fiat 500 - very confusing, soon switched it off. :(

Hugh 22-08-2013 13:31

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
I have this on my Focus - I like it....

Osem 22-08-2013 13:48

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Yes, I'd like to know what any problems associated with stop/start might be. I'm sure it saves fuel but does it have any additional ramifications for servicing, maintenance, repairs etc. which might negate the fuel savings wholly or in part.

haydnwalker 22-08-2013 21:27

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
No the Starter Motors are usually heavier duty to account for any additional wear & tear that start/stop causes. This should be covered on Kia's under the excellent warranties they have! A while ago my dad was a taxi driver driving a kia sedona, and it had 200,000+ miles but they still fixed things under the warranty which I thought was ace!

alanbjames 22-08-2013 22:43

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 35613670)
It's supposed to cut out when the car is stationary :confused:

http://www.kia.co.uk/new-cars/ecodynamics.aspx

It doesnt happen everytime tho this is whats confusing me.

it happens just a handful a times of week usually if the car is cold.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35613668)
Could be any one of a number of things but I'm confused, presumably the car is under warranty (7 years isn't it?) so why isn't your Kia dealer sorting it out? I think I'd be wanting to get the dealer to take it in rather than risk it getting worse and getting stuck somewhere.

i dont think i would be covered by that as i bought the car second hand?

Derek 22-08-2013 23:23

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35613873)
It doesnt happen everytime tho this is whats confusing me.

it happens just a handful a times of week usually if the car is cold.

My Mitsubishi has it and it only kicks in when there isn't a big draw on the battery, with the AC off etc. and even then at times when I think it should turn off it doesn't.

I wouldn't worry about it. As long as it restarts when you press in the clutch things should be fine.

Hugh 23-08-2013 06:44

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35613873)
It doesnt happen everytime tho this is whats confusing me.

it happens just a handful a times of week usually if the car is cold.

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i dont think i would be covered by that as i bought the car second hand?

Have you read the manual?

Osem 23-08-2013 13:59

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35613873)
It doesnt happen everytime tho this is whats confusing me.

it happens just a handful a times of week usually if the car is cold.

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i dont think i would be covered by that as i bought the car second hand?

The 7 year warranty is transferrable.

http://www.kia.co.uk/new-cars/7-year-warranty/your-questions-answered.aspx

I don't know what's required to transfer the warranty but if you haven't complied with any relevant terms or Kia's servicing requirements then it may now be void anyway. If I were you I'd get onto my Kia dealer and find out - it may save you a lot of money.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 35613855)
No the Starter Motors are usually heavier duty to account for any additional wear & tear that start/stop causes. This should be covered on Kia's under the excellent warranties they have! A while ago my dad was a taxi driver driving a kia sedona, and it had 200,000+ miles but they still fixed things under the warranty which I thought was ace!

Thanks for your answer. Is the starter motor the only component on which additional wear and tear is placed by start/stop technology? For example, I was always under the impression that a lot of engine wear takes place when starting a car but possibly modern oils etc. have overcome that issue.

Pauls9 23-08-2013 14:19

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
I'd guess the battery gets a bit more hammered too.

haydnwalker 23-08-2013 20:34

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35614047)
The 7 year warranty is transferrable.

http://www.kia.co.uk/new-cars/7-year...-answered.aspx

I don't know what's required to transfer the warranty but if you haven't complied with any relevant terms or Kia's servicing requirements then it may now be void anyway. If I were you I'd get onto my Kia dealer and find out - it may save you a lot of money.

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Thanks for your answer. Is the starter motor the only component on which additional wear and tear is placed by start/stop technology? For example, I was always under the impression that a lot of engine wear takes place when starting a car but possibly modern oils etc. have overcome that issue.

No engine wear is negligible these days compared to cars of the 80's/90's - actually some manufacturers suggest if you are parked in traffic longer than 10 seconds its beneficial to switch off your engine... I know that VW suggest this in their manuals.

I do this on my Audi A6 and its not particularly new (2003) and I've never had any issues so far with undue wear - I do maintain my car well - regardless of cost though so maybe a well maintained car has something to do with it.

I'm not a mechanic - just a car geek :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauls9 (Post 35614061)
I'd guess the battery gets a bit more hammered too.

Might get a LITTLE more hammer - but I wouldn't think it would be noticable. Batteries have a general life of about 7-10 years so its worth replacing it after that anyway as car battery tech improves :)

Osem 25-08-2013 12:28

Re: KIA Cee'D 1 CRDi Eco-Dynamics 1.6 5dr 2012
 
TVM - interesting subject.


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