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nstokes 20-08-2013 16:14

New Tivo
 
Well looks good

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...-in-wi-fi.html

MovedGoalPosts 20-08-2013 16:22

Re: New Tivo
 
This is US only, nothing to do with the Virgin Media TiVo indeed:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Spy
Virgin Media has responded with this statement

"We differ from the new US TiVo boxes in that ours store up to 500 hours of SD content and have three tuners. Also, our customers are not able to watch recorded shows on mobile devices yet.

"We're always talking to our partners to bring new features to our products and services, but there's no specific update on whether the newly announced changes will be coming to our platform."


nstokes 20-08-2013 16:27

Re: New Tivo
 
Oops my bad i didnt read that bit. But just think how cool it would be to have that box here in UK

TAZMANUK 20-08-2013 17:44

Re: New Tivo
 
Anything is possible a few hardware adjustments etc the so called tivo premiere was us only now we have a near like offering apart from the tivo stream box and peanut qwerty remote.

MalteseFalcon 20-08-2013 19:23

Re: New Tivo
 
Thought new owners said they wanted to move away from TiVo. So I think that mean until the TiVo deal runs out, we will get nothing new in the way of software on TiVo boxes.

andy_m 20-08-2013 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35613084)
Thought new owners said they wanted to move away from TiVo. So I think that mean until the TiVo deal runs out, we will get nothing new in the way of software on TiVo boxes.

No, they haven't said that.

denphone 20-08-2013 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35613095)
No, they haven't said that.

Personally l cannot see the TiVo being ditched anytime soon.

TAZMANUK 20-08-2013 19:43

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Neither can i

JMcB 20-08-2013 20:01

Re: New Tivo
 
i would love a TiVo stb like this....it would blow Sky out of the water

HDFootyMan 20-08-2013 20:18

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/20/46...mio-pro-review

Quote:

Irritatingly, TiVo still hasn’t converted the entire interface to HD — there are still old-style SD screens throughout the settings menu, which I’ve been complaining about for at least three years. Why can’t anyone at TiVo just spend a weekend fixing this?
3 years.....to convert to a all-new HD interface.....on new hardware.

:erm:

vincerooney 20-08-2013 20:22

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do you think we'll ever be able to watch recorded shows through mobile etc? that would be absolutely amazing. no way sky could counter that!

MalteseFalcon 20-08-2013 20:22

Re: New Tivo
 
Could have sworn one of the news stories linked here when the deal was announced said that the new owners were looking to ditch the TiVo and replace with their own boxes in the future. Might have changed since then, I lose track with all the different news about the takeover.

Jameseh 20-08-2013 21:55

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It was probably just a blog sprucing their article up rather than it being an actual quote.

Helix 20-08-2013 22:07

Re: New Tivo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35613133)
do you think we'll ever be able to watch recorded shows through mobile etc? that would be absolutely amazing. no way sky could counter that!

It would have to be an additional box to the current Tivo's like the Tivo Stream box in the US or VM would have to release new boxes based on these new US models.

The current boxes don't have the hardware required to encode the video so it is suitable to playback on a mobile device. They could possibly do it via the cloud as another option.

vincerooney 21-08-2013 08:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 35613179)
It would have to be an additional box to the current Tivo's like the Tivo Stream box in the US or VM would have to release new boxes based on these new US models.

The current boxes don't have the hardware required to encode the video so it is suitable to playback on a mobile device. They could possibly do it via the cloud as another option.

ah! i doubt they will then. :(

If the new owners have their own box and software i'd imagine tivo will be phased out once the contract ends they'll see that as a big way to save money i'd guess?

BenMcr 21-08-2013 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35613131)
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/20/46...mio-pro-review



3 years.....to convert to a all-new HD interface.....on new hardware.

:erm:

Although it's not quite the same, there are still a few dialogue boxes and screens in Windows that don't look any different in W7 than they did in Windows 95.

I would assume TiVo have devoted their development time to adding the new features, rather than tidying up the remaining SD screens. I agree that they should though.

passingbat 21-08-2013 11:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35613246)

If the new owners have their own box and software i'd imagine tivo will be phased out once the contract ends they'll see that as a big way to save money i'd guess?


I suspect that is what they would like to do. But it is possible that the success VM have had with Tivo might just convince them to leave VM alone with regard the set top box they use. If Tivo hadn't been such a success, I think we'd be heading for the Horizon box for sure.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35613302)
Although it's not quite the same, there are still a few dialogue boxes and screens in Windows that don't look any different in W7 than they did in Windows 95.

I would assume TiVo have devoted their development time to adding the new features, rather than tidying up the remaining SD screens. I agree that they should though.

But the two main screens crying out to become HD on VM's Tivo; My Planned Recordings and Manage My Series Links, are available on the US Tivo on which VM's software is based. These were added several months ago in the US, so should be implemented in the next VM update. Or so I would have thought.

BenMcr 21-08-2013 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35613309)
But the two main screens crying out to become HD on VM's Tivo; My Planned Recordings and Manage My Series Links, are available on the US Tivo on which VM's software is based. These were added several months ago in the US, so should be implemented in the next VM update. Or so I would have thought.

Yes, I'd expect so. But that isn't what was being referenced was it - it was the fact that even with the brand new box TiVo have just released, there are still SD screens.

passingbat 21-08-2013 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35613317)
Yes, I'd expect so. But that isn't what was being referenced was it - it was the fact that even with the brand new box TiVo have just released, there are still SD screens.


But the question asked in the article re HD screens was also answered in the same article:

Quote:

Denney laughs at me. "I have that conversation with the engineering team all the time," he says. "It truly is a matter of prioritization
My Planned Recordings and Manage My Series Links are priority screens and were done.

BenMcr 21-08-2013 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35613321)
But the question asked in the article re HD screens was also answered in the same article:

The TiVo quote is referencing that TiVo obviously prioritised development of the new parts of the Roamio over the remaining SD screens in the US version.

The fact that VM haven't got the previous HD screen updates, is a separate thing and is down to the fact that the VM TiVo hasn't had a major update since TiVo did the change. I would expect them to show up as part of the next update

passingbat 21-08-2013 11:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35613322)

The fact that VM haven't got the previous HD screen updates, is a separate thing

I don't think anyone was confused about that.

BenMcr 21-08-2013 11:55

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Ok. I'm going to give up as I've very confused now lol

martin201002 21-08-2013 12:29

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As long as the actual picture output from the bleeding box is in hd, I won't be worrying too much.

vincerooney 21-08-2013 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35613309)
I suspect that is what they would like to do. But it is possible that the success VM have had with Tivo might just convince them to leave VM alone with regard the set top box they use. If Tivo hadn't been such a success, I think we'd be heading for the Horizon box for sure.[COLOR="Silver"]

agree completely with your point but you're going off the assumption that people in the board room use common sense!

passingbat 21-08-2013 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35613361)
agree completely with your point but you're going off the assumption that people in the board room use common sense!

I'm hoping they adopt the view of, 'if it aint broke...'

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35613342)
As long as the actual picture output from the bleeding box is in hd, I won't be worrying too much.


Maybe you should have stayed with Sky; they have a box with basic functionality which still manages to do that :D


Ooops... I'm in trouble with the Sky guys now. Just kidding... :)

muppetman11 21-08-2013 19:16

Re: New Tivo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35613363)
I'm hoping they adopt the view of, 'if it aint broke...'

---------- Post added at 15:04 ---------- Previous post was at 14:58 ----------




Maybe you should have stayed with Sky; they have a box with basic functionality which still manages to do that :D


Ooops... I'm in trouble with the Sky guys now. Just kidding... :)

To be honest I can see the traditional cable/satellite boxes eventually giving way to people using numerous devices around the home , Comcast in the US are already trialling a cloud DVR with no local storage , the service will also have mobile apps that allow you to access your cloud recordings and live channels initially while in the home , these type of services can potentially work in any IP based device in the house so potentially games consoles , connected TVs and streaming devices.

In the USA TIVO already has these kind of capabilities with the TIVO Roamio , TIVO stream and TIVO Mini products likewise Sky's joint development of SAT>IP offers them the potential of similar functionality around the home.

BenMcr 22-08-2013 08:42

Re: New Tivo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35613487)
To be honest I can see the traditional cable/satellite boxes eventually giving way to people using numerous devices around the home , Comcast in the US are already trialling a cloud DVR with no local storage , the service will also have mobile apps that allow you to access your cloud recordings and live channels initially while in the home , these type of services can potentially work in any IP based device in the house so potentially games consoles , connected TVs and streaming devices.

In the USA TIVO already has these kind of capabilities with the TIVO Roamio , TIVO stream and TIVO Mini products likewise Sky's joint development of SAT>IP offers them the potential of similar functionality around the home.

*cough*

http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...ans-801476204/

Quote:

Neil Berkett of Virgin Media has revealed the company is planning to move part of its set-top box infrastructure into the cloud.

Virgin Media has unveiled plans to adopt cloud storage as part of its set-top box infrastructure in the future.

Neil Berkett, the cable company's chief executive, told an investor call that the user interface of its TiVo next-generation cable TV service is set to move into the cloud.

muppetman11 22-08-2013 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35613610)

Wasn't I kind of suggesting that anyway ? That link has been posted on here many times. You need to get something for that cough :D


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